Hdrol or Epistane

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Which one is safer and more effective? I noticed they had stacks on sale at NP and I am interested in purchasing one of them.

Is one more mild than the other?

Thank you....this board is a wealth of knowledge!!
 
Some have reported hair shredding on epi on as little as 30mg per day.As for Hdrol i m not sure whether it has an impact on hair or not. If it does affect hair , then i assume some of the chemical converts to DHT -is that right? and does that apply to all DS ?
 
What section does this belong. I have 17 years of lifting experience and have never taken a PH before. I am 35 years old.
 
worker said:
What section should does this belong. I have 17 years of lifting experience and have never taken a PH before. I am 35 years old.
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i think he means it should go into the Anabolic section. I think its confusing too.After all despite thechemical name of whatever PH/DESIGNER it is a supplement and can be bought legitamatly from a supplement shop or from a bonafide internet supplement store and is sold as a food supplement until the law catches up with all the designers and recatergorises them as illegal substances
 
Yes but it is NOT a "real" supplement by definition.. supps are taken to enhance ones diet and what not, or get something into your system your not actually getting in your diet.. (IE. a vegetarian taking liver tabs to get some B vitamins and proteins -- not the best example I know)
These products don't supplement anything, their synthetic hormones.
Try a post in the anabolic section (which is the most popular section at these boards anyways) and you 'll get more responses.
 
MPFit said:
Yes but it is NOT a "real" supplement by definition.. supps are taken to enhance ones diet and what not, or get something into your system your not actually getting in your diet.. (IE. a vegetarian taking liver tabs to get some B vitamins and proteins -- not the best example I know)
These products don't supplement anything, their synthetic hormones.
Try a post in the anabolic section (which is the most popular section at these boards anyways) and you 'll get more responses.
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"supps are taken to enhance ones diet and what not, or get something into your system your not actually getting in your diet-so where would you put Pro anabol or BAD ASS MASS ,Cissus -drol for example ?

"These products don't supplement anything, their synthetic hormones"-DS/PH are synthetic hormones I agree and add to or supplement the pool of testosterone that circulating in the body already
 
No, they actually shut down your test production hence not really supplementing it at all.. BAD ASS MASS and what not I'd probably consider to be supplements, all the natural extracts and stuff going around are used to help supplement one thing or another as far as i'm concerned: Prime helps boost test (supposedly) so it could be a test supp, arachidonic acid helps boost DOMS and related recovery processes-- a recovery supp, and banaba extract and similar products are insulin mimetics--ie insulin supps.. Cissus i'd consider an antiinflamatory supp, or a joint support supplement..
I'm not 100% on the ingredients of all the supps out there, but PH/DS in no way shape or form would I consider a "supplement".. would consider Test Enanthate a supplement?

Not trying to start arguments, it's more my point of view: if you think DS/PH's ARE supps, thats fine with me.
 
H-drol is milder than Epi and may require 2 bottles for a cycle. I have only run Epi and loved it........no shedding!
 
tnubs said:
just take them both together =]
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prolly not a good idea, 2x methyls and this is his first PH cycle.


Ive ran them both solo and I can say I had 0 sides on both. I ran epi 40mg 4 weeks and halo 75mg 6 weeks.

as far as effectiveness, that comes down to your diet and training IMO
 
meh, im running it now and im not dead yet. but im sure id be scared to see blood work at this point.
 
GeekPoop said:
prolly not a good idea, 2x methyls and this is his first PH cycle.


Ive ran them both solo and I can say I had 0 sides on both. I ran epi 40mg 4 weeks and halo 75mg 6 weeks.

as far as effectiveness, that comes down to your diet and training IMO
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Very good point - taking steroids and expecting a body transformation without taking in to account nutrition and training -well it aint going to happen
 
Might be a little biased but i've seen that H-Drol was fantastic. Not to sure on Epi, heard it was good also tho
 
The directions for taking Hdrol say not to exceed 2 x 25 mg in 24 hours , then only to take for 30 days with 90 off. As there is 60 in a bottle , then one batch would last 30 days.However judging from what ive read in different places, this may not be long enough . So my question is this , sticking to the 30 day usage what could you expect in this time frame from Hdrol on 50 mg per day?

Thanks
 
corsaking said:
The directions for taking Hdrol say not to exceed 2 x 25 mg in 24 hours , then only to take for 30 days with 90 off. As there is 60 in a bottle , then one batch would last 30 days.However judging from what ive read in different places, this may not be long enough . So my question is this , sticking to the 30 day usage what could you expect in this time frame from Hdrol on 50 mg per day?

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Dont bother reading the directions.

Halo doesnt really kick in till about week 2 or 3, I would suggestion buying 2x bottles and running it 50-75mg 6weeks.
 
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