SX Review ((Moderate Detail))

oblivious

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Ill start by saying that I'm pretty new to lifting/stims/etc. I'm 23, lifted in highschool for football and such, but havent done much in years. I'm probably just above a novice level when it comes to stims, I've tried quite a few, but not enough to say im experienced I suppose. Im currently 5'11''-6' and 178lbs and running the 10/10 transformation diet/routine. For those who are unfamiliar is basically 3 week weight loss, 3 week bulk, and repeat for another 6 weeks. Anyway on to the review...

7:00am: Rolled over in bed and popped my first pill with my alarm. Usually I can snooze or a good while, but after 15ish min I was no longer able to fall into that groggy half sleep, and was awake. Took my NO2 Black and CE2, and headed to 8am class.

9:00am: Felt a little more alert in math. Usually I understand what is being taught and then lose interest while it gets re-explained 5x and by the time I come back around I missed the next theory and am behind. But today I followed the whole class and fully understood everything, was a nice change. Walking back from class I felt….well to be honest normal. Not an every day normal though, one of those, “I have slightly more energy than usual, it’s a good morning” day.

Unfortunately I need more energy than that today! I have a difficult workout planned as well as a few hours of work, and at least 6 hours of homework. So I took another pill upon my arrival back to my dorm, making 2 total caps for today.

9:25am Finally getting around to eating, felt mildly hungry this morning, but less than usually maybe. I had 3 egg whites, and I have to say, after the first 2 bites It became more of a task to eat than a privilege. My body just didn’t want it. But choked it down none the less and all is well. In a slightly good mood but that could be due to the fact I was watching some quality StarCraft tournaments…..what a great way to start the day.

11:00am :burnout: Getting ready to walk to the gym. Effects are really coming around now, and I feel the need to expand on this time-frame the most. So I will be including a rating of Mood and Energy below. On a general note though, I felt amazing walking to the gym. My energy was up, and I felt happy, which in and of itself deserves special notation of which I will expound upon below. I also wanted to test the waters with this supplement so I had half a cup of coffee on the way to the gym.

Mood (9/10): Now this is a considerable score in and of itself. But I think it is important here that I point out that I am mildly depressed (no meds). And for me to walk down the street almost wanting to smile and feeling like talking to people, just anybody, is quite an achievement. I’m sure this could be even more prevalent in people who have normal mood behavior. **In no way am I suggesting this for treatment of any kind of depression, mild or otherwise. Just an interesting thing to note**

Energy (8/10): Was definitely full of energy. But this was not a normal stim sensation. It almost felt like I wasn’t on stims at all, but just felt focused and had some energy to boot. Because I’m pretty aware of my body however, I could tell im slightly stimmed. This is not including the coffee. After the consumption of ½ cup of coffee, my energy was at a 9 or above, less clean feeling, but that slightly insane crack feeling is what I wanted for my workout.

Workout: Good workout. Probably as good as 3 scooping Jack3d, with the addition of the coffee. But conversely it was on a different level. In normally listen to heavier/faster music when I lift, but today I felt like listening to U2 radio (on Pandora) because that’s just what kinda mood I was in (nogay)! And honestly my workout was just as intense and focused, but had a much happier lighter feel to it….an odd experience to say the least.

Two interesting things to note. Increased sweating: I do a half mile warmup run and after my 5 min run I was already raining sweat. And this continued throughout the workout. So I’m very happy with the themogenics. The other note was I felt (and was) semi dehydrated during my workout. This is likely partially due to the ½ coffee consumed pre workout though, in addition to the increased sweating. Which again was likely compounded by the Raspberry Ketone in my CE2 Hi-Def.

12:30pm Coming out of the gym I was dead tired, but still had energy (paradoxical I know). Its hard to judge the mood at this time as when I leave the gym Im always in some weird tunnel vision funk where its all I can do to remember to breath and keep walking. Perhaps still a slight mood lift, but this is likely diminsed by my lack of energy and coffee tainting the cleanness of SX.

1:30pm Back in the dorm, and I feel great still. Usually dying to eat my only carbs of the day, my post workout 1/3 cup of raisins, but I honestly had to keep reminding myself to eat them while I was writing this. Which was actually a problem because I barely consumed them and my postWO protein during the window.

As of now the dirty coffee feeling is just starting to wear off and hopefully I float back into that amazing mood I had preworkout for the rest of the day. Still early to judge appetite but Ive only had 3 egg whites, 1/3c of raisins and ~40g protein so far today and im not even remotely hungry. Will continue my log as the day progresses. Hopefully any of you who took the time to read the post in its entirety found it useful and informative.

There is also a more detailed mini log by a more experienced user VolcomX311 (would link if I could) on these forums. Hopefully some people who are less stim experienced, or new to AM or working out in general will find this post relatable.
 
Awesome post man! Glad to see you are really feeling the slim x (as is everyone else ive seen write reviews!), the stuff lasts a long time for sure. As far as the appetitie suppressing affects, i know what you're saying about having to "remind" yourself to eat, i feel the same way when using slim x, which makes it awesome for dieting too!
 
Awesome post man! Glad to see you are really feeling the slim x (as is everyone else ive seen write reviews!), the stuff lasts a long time for sure. As far as the appetitie suppressing affects, i know what you're saying about having to "remind" yourself to eat, i feel the same way when using slim x, which makes it awesome for dieting too!

Sure seems to be lasting a long time.

Which works in opposition with my stim experience. Usually I stim up to a considerable level, uncomfortable most often, because I know I am peaking right then, and I will settle into a few hours of slightly less intense but still high stim sensations. Ultimately leading to the rapid deciline, in some cases crashing, with the entire cycle lasting anywhere between 3-6 hours.

I will comment more on this when I have more information during my summation at night. But so far the effects seem to have peaked an hour and some change after dosing, and have yet to diminish in the slightest....coming on 5ish hours so far. Its been just one STEADY ride...

very interesting so far.
 
Thanks for all that great detail you took to the time to lay down.

I hear ya on the appetite suppresssion. I have to remind myself to eat. It'll be feeding time for me, and I'll think "Oh, I'll just finish this first." Next thing I know 30 mins has passed!

Looking forward to hearing how you feel for the rest of the day!
 
So...question.

This product smells and tastes like chocolate, and not suprisingly its main ingredient is cocoa seed concentrate.

I eat about 10g of 85% chocolate every day for obvious nutritional reasons. Is the same stuff im getting from that already present in these pills? and to what amount? Ultimately, do I still need to be eating the chocolate or is this covered now?
 
So...question.

This product smells and tastes like chocolate, and not suprisingly its main ingredient is cocoa seed concentrate.

I eat about 10g of 85% chocolate every day for obvious nutritional reasons. Is the same stuff im getting from that already present in these pills? and to what amount? Ultimately, do I still need to be eating the chocolate or is this covered now?

It does contain an ingredient derived from pure cacao giving it that chocolate taste and smell. I can't disclose more than that, but I am sure it is not enough to cover any anti-oxidant properties you were eating your 85% for.
 
Still going to do an end of day update, but one alarming thing so far is its 8pm and my resting heart rate seems a tad high.

This pretty common among users? Its not a super significant increase, but noticeable.

Plus when I have high resting bpm I start imagining palpitations every 2 seconds and such :crackhead:

The effects of this pill are for sure lasting much longer than I anticipated, which doesnt have to be a bad thing as long as I get to sleep lol.
 
Still going to do an end of day update, but one alarming thing so far is its 8pm and my resting heart rate seems a tad high.

This pretty common among users? Its not a super significant increase, but noticeable.

Plus when I have high resting bpm I start imagining palpitations every 2 seconds and such :crackhead:

The effects of this pill are for sure lasting much longer than I anticipated, which doesnt have to be a bad thing as long as I get to sleep lol.

We had one other person report this who said it was on the first two days. Our assumption was his body was getting used to it.
 
Well I have to start by saying this product lived up to the hype in the duration department. Its now 13 hours since I dosed and I'm still feeling residual stim effects. Im not even sure residual is the word, its not full on it seems, but its about 70-80% still.

well got really distracted and didnt manage to finish this post until now, 12:45am. Rather than finishing this today I think I will take advantage of the fact that I might feel semi tired and go to bed. I usually have been asleep by 10pm, so this is quite late for me. Hopefully another 2 dose will get me through tomorrow, and ill start a day2 log, and possibly revisit tonights experience.
 
See you at 3:30 am :)

That two caps will save you tomorrow. Then after tomorrow night you will be adjusted and it will last from morning to night.....then you get good normal sleep. Just take it early!!!
 
Ok, well I'm going to put a few things out there this morning, and I'm going to start with my first negative experiences.

I could not F$!*#$@ sleep! Even the second pill was taken by 9am so I was kinda disappointed I was up so long. I'm usually dragggginnnn ass from 9:30pm to about 10:30 when im more than ready to crash, but not last night. I couldn't even lay down until 12:45am and even then I was laying there forever, I would tell you how long but after 2am rolled around, I turned my clock around because I was tired of looking at it. I would guess I finally went to sleep around 3-3:30am. And even then It was pretty light toss/turn sleep, finally waking to my alarm at 7:30am.

Another thing to note, the mood effects seem to wear off far before the stim effect. I dont know exactly how to describe it but I was very irritated/pissed/moody last night due to the fact that I wasn't sleeping. Likely similar to the mood Volcom said he was in his first night/next morning when he couldn't sleep. This was likely compounded however by the fact that people where partying on my dorm floor from 1am-4am at least.

That being said I expected some issues sleeping reading the reviews here, and this alone is not really a huge mark against SX being that it was warned. But as long as im reviewing I thought I should include my feelings on it all. It was kinda weird, I knew I was likely to have issues sleeping, but I remember being just VERY damn irritated.

/end rant :rant:

Anyway, I woke this morning and took another 2 pills right at 7:45am. And by 8:30 I feel pretty good again, but I will log the times around noon today when I'll break down my morning which is always the most productive time of day for me.

Also to tag a question on the end of this. Last night I was seriously debating dropping down to 1 pill. But after the sleepless night I thought I would need two again today. Will I have issues "feeling" 1 pill now after 2 days on 2? Should I take a day off of SX and return on 1? Or should I just be sticking with 2 from now on? ...I know its mostly preference/tolerance, but I remember people being warned from dropping dosage somewhere that the effects will be significantly less noticable...
 
Also to tag a question on the end of this. Last night I was seriously debating dropping down to 1 pill. But after the sleepless night I thought I would need two again today. Will I have issues "feeling" 1 pill now after 2 days on 2? Should I take a day off of SX and return on 1? Or should I just be sticking with 2 from now on? ...I know its mostly preference/tolerance, but I remember people being warned from dropping dosage somewhere that the effects will be significantly less noticable...

Since everyone is different that is a hard question to answer. I say if you have any sleep issues tonight drop down to one for a while. It may feel much less noticeable, but it will help your body adjust to it for a few more days.
 
I might even go as far as to say take a day off, and then go to 1 pill. Maybe skip over the weekend and catch up on your sleep. I'm yet to try 2, and partly scared of trying it.
 
Day 2, 2 caps:

Well I don't have a ton of time to post tonight....perhaps some amendments when im still awake at 3am again :rant: I touched briefly on last nights situation earlier, so ill just leave it at that and expound when it comes to mind. So with an estimated 4 hours of sleep, ill begin to highlight some of today, which is pretty uneventful due to massive study sessions and exams.

7:45am Woke up, from what im not sure I could even call sleep. Took 2 SX, layed in bed until 8. Got up and took my NO2 Black and CE2.

9:00am Studying for psych exam, so not really much activity. Concentration and energy where beyond expectations considering the lack of sleep. It was probably the most thorough, and deep study/work session ive had this semester. I usually get distracted by EVERYTHING, including these forums, but I was just railing out work like crazy.

9:30am Forgot to eat so far. Appetite suppression is indescribable, I opted for 50g of protein and 1/2 cup broccoli. Which should be a 5 min meal, but probably took me over 20-30 min because I kept forgetting to eat.

12:00pm Headed to english class. Managed to study for almost the entire 3 hour session....by far a marathon compared to my previous 30 min record. Had to remind myself yet again to grab a handful of almonds on the way out.

2:00pm My psych test went very well. Its a very difficult class with a class average test score of ~60%. Couple that with me barely ever studying, and in this case 4 hours of sleep it should have been a nightmare. But I was able to analyze, rationalize, and reverse engineer questions I didnt know, while keeping complete focus and making steady time progress.

5:00pm Realized I havent eaten anything since the almonds, and Had another protein shake, and green tea. Could notice the tea kicking my metabolism up a notch again, fidgety and slightly increased HR, yet a completely clean mental feel, again this product produces some odd sensations and I think im a fan.

6:00pm Gym finally, im really an AM/noon workout person, but schedule pushed it back. Had plenty of energy to complete a bicycle HIIT session. Program I'm on had me doing 50/10 intervals for 18 min last week, with the program increasing to 19 min this week. Not only did I use a higher resistance this week, I also pushed into 20 min of HIIT, and an additional 5 min of medium cardio after. I felt like I could do more in terms of energy, but my legs were all but seizing up.

8:00pm I had another protein shake for dinner, and honestly that's all I felt like. I ran the velocity diet a month ago, and only lasted a week and a half, it was the most brutal thing I had ever done. For those that dont know, you consume NOTHING but protein shakes for the diets duration, no solid food whatsoever. And here I am damn near running it today because I WANT to. Just unreal to say the least. I will likely not be including this in my bulking 3week phase for sure, I mean I just CANT remember to eat.

Its now around 9pm and I'm still quite stimmed, I feel another sleep struggle coming on, but at this point as long as theres SX in my bottle do I even care? I honestly felt like i had 14 hours of sleep when I dosed this morning, just really amazing so far. If it wasnt for me knowing that I need the sleep because I'm new to lifting and ive been pushing myself extra hard, id honestly not care.

Feel I should touch on mood a bit. As said before I was irritated lastnight/this morning due to the lack of sleep and people making noise on my floor. And when I got up and dosed, about 45 min later I felt...id say content...neither irritated or happy. Then I walked out of my room to find someone had destroyed my end of the hall, and there was some type of chocolate/caramel and hotsauce sprayed all over my door, door handle, and what not. So that set a particularly bad tone for the day. I never reached the euphoric state of yesterday, but I didn't really get angry either... An interesting variable for the mood, and an interesting response. Id like to feel like SX really saved me from having a shitty day, while not entirely making it a good one.
 
Having trouble deciding what to do now.

Part of me wants to take 2 tomorrow, take the weekend off, and try monday at 1.

Part of me wants to take tomorrow off and try 1 over the weekend.

And finally one of me wants to try 3 tomorrow and take the weekend off.


...decisions =/
 
Try 3 :) Or 2, then take the weekend off.

I have to agree with you though. SX and bulking do not mix.
 
took 3 and ran to math class which I'm in now.

....I'm doing everything I can to hold myself in my desk! I'm doing the foot shake thing at a uncontrolable an inhuman speed.

Weeeeee... Insert crack smiley

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Quick and almost stupid question:

SX is safe to take with almost any OTC medicine correct?

Specifically I am thinking about picking up a box of Prilosec OTC or Zantec or something for some slight increase in heartburn lately.

Could possibly be due to the increase of metabolism.

I cant imagine it would have any effect, but after reading the warning label on the bottle of SX it basically said if I so much as combined SX with a vitamin I should purchase a grave plot. So figured might as well ask.
 
Quick and almost stupid question:

SX is safe to take with almost any OTC medicine correct?

Specifically I am thinking about picking up a box of Prilosec OTC or Zantec or something for some slight increase in heartburn lately.

Could possibly be due to the increase of metabolism.

I cant imagine it would have any effect, but after reading the warning label on the bottle of SX it basically said if I so much as combined SX with a vitamin I should purchase a grave plot. So figured might as well ask.

Well several OTC meds you would not want to mix with it, but those are fine. I take Prilosec everyday. Sorry about the warning.......attorneys :(
 
Well several OTC meds you would not want to mix with it, but those are fine. I take Prilosec everyday. Sorry about the warning.......attorneys :(

Care to expound a tad on the meds to avoid, just generic categories/types, for future reference. Unless there is also some SPECIFIC ones that should be avoided.

Also in mention to my previous mention of noticeable increased HR and palpitations, I did find there is a strong link between this and GERD(heartburn)/IBS which im all but positive I suffer from both. So this very well may be independent of SX entirely, or only slightly effecting it. Thought I should bring this up, on the off chance that anyone was concerned with my mention of that.

Also BigSmith, I'm likely preaching to the choir here, but I noticed you said you take prilosec every day. OTC? The OTC is a 20mg dose thats marketed for a 14 day run, the prescription version is usually prescribed in the same 20mg does as well. There has been high success rate in taking a high 20 or 40mg does to control/heal the initial symptoms, but then can be dropped down to 10mg a day and still maintain the effects. There are MANY doctors that fail to follow up with progress and reduce dosage, so this is an important concept to consider. As reducing the dosage greatly reduces the chance of side effects and the diminished B12 absorption. Interesting note I thought I would add for anyone who suffers from heartburn/GERD like me, and not as much for BigSmith as he seems to know everything :laugh:
 
I also have IBS. My doc has had me on the OTC 20mg now everyday for 4 years. I had very bad GERD that just came out of nowhere my last year in the Marines. Some nights I would eat half a bottle of tums. Then some GI issues about a year later and was diagnosed with IBS. So I cut out dairy, and the IBS is diet controllable. The Prilosec fixed the gerd, however if I take more than 36 hours off I start feeling it again.
 
I also have IBS. My doc has had me on the OTC 20mg now everyday for 4 years. I had very bad GERD that just came out of nowhere my last year in the Marines. Some nights I would eat half a bottle of tums. Then some GI issues about a year later and was diagnosed with IBS. So I cut out dairy, and the IBS is diet controllable. The Prilosec fixed the gerd, however if I take more than 36 hours off I start feeling it again.

Yea mines pretty bad to, every so often I get bad attacks and cant eat/swallow. So I should really look into getting that under control. IBS is less severe, only constant symptom is endless "D".

Anyway if you ever feel experimental, Try halving the dose for a day or two and see if it still works. Personally I hate having to take any more Rx then I have to =/
 
Oh, also ive never seen this mentioned.

How does alcohol effect SX?

Its a depressant so id expect it to reduce the effectiveness? Just wanna make sure if I decide to have a few beers one night im not gonna get restimmed or something.
 
Oh, also ive never seen this mentioned.

How does alcohol effect SX?

Its a depressant so id expect it to reduce the effectiveness? Just wanna make sure if I decide to have a few beers one night im not gonna get restimmed or something.

Its hard to get drunk. You can drink and drink and drink. I have seen lots of comments about that.
 
You sold me a pill that prevents me from getting drunk!!

You wanna rape my daughter and burn my house down too?

...but seriously that's kinda a bummer =/
 
Its hard to get drunk. You can drink and drink and drink. I have seen lots of comments about that.

I guess it's important to understand how stim's work and what "getting drunk" is.

Believe it or not, one of the primary contributions to getting drunk is hypoglycemia. Alcohol causes a very strong insuin release, which makes your bloodsugar drop significantly (and people say alcohol isn't anabolic :P). If you've ever seen someone who's taken humalog (fast-acting insulin) and not eat anything in time, pending the stages and severity of the hypoglycemia, it is almost impossible to tell the difference. In fact, it can cause a very similar smell to having consumed alcohol, and police officers cannot issue a DUI to a person with a diabettes restriction even if it smells like they were drinking.

Now then, how do stimulants come into play? Stimulants increase your blood sugar, as adrenaline converts glycogen to glucose. This will naturally help to prevent the hypoglycemic aspect from alcohol.

Naturally, the low blood sugar is not the only aspect of alcoholism, it also affects neurochemicals. A lot of people will say that alcohol and red bull or alcohol and nicotine creates a potentiated effect (even though they are stimulants). Naturally, this is due to changes brain chemistry.
 
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