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PhysiqueFreak takes it to NEW levels with IBE's Formex (sponsored)

celc5 said:
PF,
there's a lot to be said for being under stress. When the formestane finally kicks in, you're libido and gym motivation are going to be top notch again.
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I had a better workout today actually. Not great, but better than it has been. Thanks for the reassurance though!
 
[size=+3]Day 3 of Formex[/size]​


[size=+1]Workout[/size]
- Ok, I decided to scrap the DC training. I am just going to switch up my sets and reps every week, but I am going to keep the same split. For example, yesterday I did 9 sets of 3 for my main lifts for each body part. Next week I'll do a 4x8 or a 4x5,4,3,2 or something of that nature, just depends on if I want to do higher or lower rep.

Flat BB Bench (9x3)-
Warmup
3 x 185/185/185/195/200/205/210/225/235(x2)

Straight BB Curl (9x3)-
3 x 50/60/60/70/70/80/80/90/90

Standing Cable Flyes (mid range, 4x8)-
8 x (each cable) 17.5/27.5/32.5/27.5(x15, high cable)

DB Hammer Curls Down The Rack (8x8, no rest between sets)-
8 x 27.5's/25's/22.5's/20's/17.5's/15's/12.5's/10's

Push-ups-
45 on back x 16
BW x 30 (half reps, fast)

*Notes- My workout was a lot better than it has been lately. It wasn't great, but it was good. I switched it up and went with 9 sets of 3 which was a little different, but it seemed like a good change of pace.

Libido- About the same yesterday, but it feels pretty high this morning. Morning wood FTW.
Strength- Seemed like its at least getting back to normal. So, good in my view.
Body Composition- About the same.
Vascularity- It was decent. A little better than it has been.
Pump- Noticed a good pump in the gym.
Mood- Yesterday it was better, but not good. This morning I am in a pretty good mood though.
Recovery- Well, I'm not THAT sore today. We will see if any DOMS kicks in, but I don't think it will.
Side-effects (acne, aggression)- My face is looking pretty good actually.
Aggression- Hmm, well I wasn't as mad as I had been the past couple of days, but my sense of well being seems to be improving.


[size=+1]Diet[/size]

6:45- 3 eggs + 2 pieces of wheat toast
9:30- 1 cup of cottage cheese
1:00- 1 whole Italian Sausage + 3 stuffed shells (ricotta cheese, eggs, mozzarella, parmesan stuffed into pasta shells)
3:30- 1/2 lb of semi-frozen blackberries
4:00- 1/2 Homemade Weight Gainer sipped on until workout (2 cups 2% milk, 2 tbsp pb, 2 tbsp canola oil, 1/2 cup oats, 2 scoops of protein
5:35- 5 fish oils
6:15- 2 caps Formex (50mg)
7:00- 9 piece chicken fries (BK)
7:45- Workout
9:00- 2 cups of orange soda + 1/2 of the homemade weight gainer
10:25- Original Chicken Sandwich (BK)
11:00- 3-4 beers


*Notes- Diet could have been better again and I think I need to start getting in more calories. I have just been so busy trying to get my car in and out of the shop that I haven't had the most amount of time to eat during the day. I will try to up my cals.
 
anabolicRyan1 said:
Or if its stackable with EPI?!?
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Do some searches on this board and others. Formestane/epithio have been stacked many times. From what I saw, TheBigT was one of the first ones to try it and he has a thread here on AM. But, you have to decide how your body responds to epithios and how your body responds to the AI that you choose to stack with.

My personal first priority would be to see how my joints respond both to epithio and formestane. For me personally, neither bother my joints so I'd be in the clear. There's about a 50/50 split of those that have no problems with that stack and those that end up with joint irritation.
 
I break my Hams and Quads into separate workouts, so one of them is always sore...Splitting them into different workouts really allows you to focus on growth/hypertrophy in a single workout. I much prefer it to an entire Leg day.
 
Irish Cannon said:
I break my Hams and Quads into separate workouts, so one of them is always sore...Splitting them into different workouts really allows you to focus on growth/hypertrophy in a single workout. I much prefer it to an entire Leg day.
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So do you have two leg sessions a week? Or quads one week, hams the next?
 
UPDATE: I've been really thirsty this morning. I have had like 4 glasses of water in the past 20 minutes. I did eat some fast food last night (sodium) and did drink a few beers, so that could be it, but I'm not quite sure

Edit: I'll keep an eye on my thirst level.
 
PhysiqueFreak said:
UPDATE: I've been really thirsty this morning. I have had like 4 glasses of water in the past 20 minutes. I did eat some fast food last night (sodium) and did drink a few beers, so that could be it, but I'm not quite sure

Edit: I'll keep an eye on my thirst level.
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I also split my hams and quads into 2 seperate workouts. But, my legs always looked pretty solid and seem to respond to whatever I decide to do... so maybe my advice isn't worth all that much if you're trying to bring yours up.

I drink about 1.25-1.5 gallons of water per day, especially when I'm taking an AI. Formestane is a pretty potent AI (relative to the other ones that are otc). Let your water get too low, and you could probably end up with headaches. Although I've never had that happen with form, it has happened when I skimped on water with other AIs.
 
celc5 said:
I drink about 1.25-1.5 gallons of water per day, especially when I'm taking an AI. Formestane is a pretty potent AI (relative to the other ones that are otc). Let your water get too low, and you could probably end up with headaches. Although I've never had that happen with form, it has happened when I skimped on water with other AIs.
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Solid advice, Cel. I agree, and yes, I know this to be fact through use of AI's and inadequate water intake.. I learned my lesson, though.

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celc5 said:
I also split my hams and quads into 2 seperate workouts. But, my legs always looked pretty solid and seem to respond to whatever I decide to do... so maybe my advice isn't worth all that much if you're trying to bring yours up.

I drink about 1.25-1.5 gallons of water per day, especially when I'm taking an AI. Formestane is a pretty potent AI (relative to the other ones that are otc). Let your water get too low, and you could probably end up with headaches. Although I've never had that happen with form, it has happened when I skimped on water with other AIs.
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Thanks for the heads up on the water. I think I'm drinking enough, I just felt unusually thirsty this morning, but my thirst seems to have settled down since then.
 
[size=+3]Day 4 of Formex[/size]​


[size=+1]Workout[/size]

OFF DAY

*Notes- No workout yesterday, but I felt good all day. Things are looking up compared to the rest of the week.

Libido- Definitely increased. Through last night and today. I picked my ex up from her friends at 2 in the morning after she got back from spring break and I'll just say that we had fun last night and all day today.
Strength- n/a
Body Composition- My muscles look a little fuller.
Vascularity- Was good later last night.
Pump- n/a
Mood- My mood is good.
Recovery- Still not very sore from the other days chest session
Side-effects (acne, aggression)- none

[size=+1]Diet[/size]

8:30- 2 pieces wheat toast + 2 eggs + 3 slices of peppered bacon
10:30- Half of a BLT
12:00- Pasta w/ 1 whole chicken breast, tomato, asparagus, spinach, parmesan
2:30- Homemade High Cal Protein Shake sipped through my drive back to school (2 cups 2% milk, 2 tbsp canola oil, 2 tbsp PB, 2 scoops protein)
5:30- 1 cap Formex (25 mg)
6:00- 2 Turkey burgers w/ 2 slices pepperjack
9:30- Homemade Protein Shake (2 scoops protein, 6 tbsp liquid egg whites, 2 tbsp PB, 2 tbsp canola oil)
12:30- 1 cap Formex (25 mg) (2 hrs before I picked up my ex ;))
1:00- 5 fish oils
4:30am- 1 can tuna + 1 tbsp mayo


*Notes- Diet wasn't too bad, considering I had a three hour drive home where I only had a protein shake. Also, I don't have any food back at school and desperately need to go grocery shopping
 
UPDATE: My libido is out of control. I have spent the whole day with my ex and can't stop popping wood. I'm not gonna dose my Formex until before I go to bed, because I don't need any more of a libido boost today. I also had to take today as an OFF day, because they haven't reopened the school gym from Spring Break yet, so I will hit back and tri's hard tomorrow.
 
Sorry for the crappy update

[size=+3]Day 5 of Formex[/size]​


[size=+1]Workout[/size]

OFF DAY- The gym at school is usually open on Sundays, but it was closed yesterday due to it being spring break.

*Notes- No workout, so I'm going to hit back and tri's hard today.

Libido- Way up.
Strength- n/a
Body Composition- Same as yesterday
Vascularity- Same
Pump- n/a
Mood- My mood was good yesterday and is good today, although it might be because I aced my human genetics paper that I had no idea what I was doing when I wrote it.
Recovery- n/a. No soreness from previous lifting days.
Side-effects (acne, aggression)- none. except for libido being TOO high. Can't decide if this is a side effect yet.

[size=+1]Diet[/size]

This was a very bad day diet wise considering it was pretty much non-existent. I didn't eat until about 3 pm due to being up with my ex until 5 am that morning.

I had a footlong chicken, bacon, ranch sub from subway and an oatmeal raison cookie. Later that night I had some chicken and cheese nachos and then I had a homemade protein shake with 2 scoops protein, 6 tbsp of eggwhites, 2 tbsp PB, 2 tbsp canola oil. I dosed my two Formex before bed at around 12:00 am. My sleep last night was bad, but I think it was due to loud ass drunk mother fuc*ers that wouldn't shut up, and not the Formex.




*Notes- I'm making up for yesterday's shitty diet today.
 
PhysiqueFreak said:
[size=+3]Day 5 of Formex[/size]​


[size=+1]Workout[/size]

OFF DAY- The gym at school is usually open on Sundays, but it was closed yesterday due to it being spring break.

*Notes- No workout, so I'm going to hit back and tri's hard today.

Libido- Way up.
Strength- n/a
Body Composition- Same as yesterday
Vascularity- Same
Pump- n/a
Mood- My mood was good yesterday and is good today, although it might be because I aced my human genetics paper that I had no idea what I was doing when I wrote it.
Recovery- n/a. No soreness from previous lifting days.
Side-effects (acne, aggression)- none. except for libido being TOO high. Can't decide if this is a side effect yet.

[size=+1]Diet[/size]

This was a very bad day diet wise considering it was pretty much non-existent. I didn't eat until about 3 pm due to being up with my ex until 5 am that morning.

I had a footlong chicken, bacon, ranch sub from subway and an oatmeal raison cookie. Later that night I had some chicken and cheese nachos and then I had a homemade protein shake with 2 scoops protein, 6 tbsp of eggwhites, 2 tbsp PB, 2 tbsp canola oil. I dosed my two Formex before bed at around 12:00 am. My sleep last night was bad, but I think it was due to loud ass drunk mother fuc*ers that wouldn't shut up, and not the Formex.




*Notes- I'm making up for yesterday's shitty diet today.
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Side Effect of Formex: Doing exceptionally well on homework assignments and other school work that you have no idea what you're doing on.

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Good update bud ! ..and man, you guys have a late spring break.
 
AK32408 said:
Side Effect of Formex: Doing exceptionally well on homework assignments and other school work that you have no idea what you're doing on.

:laugh:

Good update bud ! ..and man, you guys have a late spring break.
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Yeah, I hope that side effect continues, because there isn't much semester left and I've been slacking. I'll update tomorrow when I get my calc 2 test back :D

Our spring break is the latest it can possibly be I think. And then we get another two days off in two weeks for easter.
 
Dude calc 2 is a beast, I barely made it out of that class alive. I didn't need to take I was just interested and I got the same teacher that I had for calc 1. I was just happy to get my B and to never have another class like that one again....
 
jdg487 said:
Dude calc 2 is a beast, I barely made it out of that class alive. I didn't need to take I was just interested and I got the same teacher that I had for calc 1. I was just happy to get my B and to never have another class like that one again....
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I HATE math.
 
jdg487 said:
Dude calc 2 is a beast, I barely made it out of that class alive. I didn't need to take I was just interested and I got the same teacher that I had for calc 1. I was just happy to get my B and to never have another class like that one again....
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Yeah, I thought I was gonna have to drop the class after I got a 53 on my first test, but I didn't have the book at that time either cause I was too poor to buy it. But the last test I took I thought I aced, and if I don't come out with at least an A, if not 100%, i'll be very disappointed. Anyway, after calc 2 i'm done with math, which I am indifferent about cause I like it.

AK32408 said:
I HATE math.
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I HATE English (basically because I bullshit everything). and Physics
 
PhysiqueFreak said:
Yeah, I thought I was gonna have to drop the class after I got a 53 on my first test, but I didn't have the book at that time either cause I was too poor to buy it. But the last test I took I thought I aced, and if I don't come out with at least an A, if not 100%, i'll be very disappointed. Anyway, after calc 2 i'm done with math, which I am indifferent about cause I like it.



I HATE English (basically because I bullshit everything). and Physics
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Physics wasn't too bad for me, the class was geared towards my major (Physical Therapy) so it made it more interesting. But ya, I'm really not a fan of English either lol.
 
AK32408 said:
Physics wasn't too bad for me, the class was geared towards my major (Physical Therapy) so it made it more interesting. But ya, I'm really not a fan of English either lol.
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Yeah, I'm a Chemistry major and that's usually how it goes, you either love physics and hate chemistry or love chemistry and hate physics and I'm the latter. And NO ONE likes to write 5-10 page papers.

jdg487 said:
I really just hate school period, well the classes that is...
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Yeah it sucks. I get sooo lazy when I have so few hrs. (12 this semester) compared to when I went to class everyday last semester with 17 hrs and got a 3.58 gpa... I need to get a job to take up some of my time
 
PhysiqueFreak said:
Yeah, I'm a Chemistry major and that's usually how it goes, you either love physics and hate chemistry or love chemistry and hate physics and I'm the latter. And NO ONE likes to write 5-10 page papers.



Yeah it sucks. I get sooo lazy when I have so few hrs. (12 this semester) compared to when I went to class everyday last semester with 17 hrs and got a 3.58 gpa... I need to get a job to take up some of my time
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I took International Relations a few semesters ago for an elective and I had a 20 page semester project on a country of our choice... good thing I didn't start it until 2 weeks of the due date :scared:

lol :p
 
A few semesters ago I had this retarted "technical writing" class where we had to right an official proposition to the university about one thing that we thought they could improve upon. It had to be more than 15 pages and you had to do all this other bs work. I also started late as usual, luckily my teacher graded real easy and I got by w/ a B. And then the next semester they dropped that class from my major requirements, figures...

Sorry for taking up space Physique w/ my rant, back to business!!!
 
[size=+3]Day 6 of Formex[/size]​


[size=+1]Workout[/size]
- I decided to take IrishCannon's advice and split up my leg days. I decided to put hams with my back day because I like to do SLDL's for my back and they really work my hams also.

Back/Tri's/Hams

SLDL (9x3)
3 x 95/135/185/255/275/295/315/225(x6)

Note- I get a really intense stretch in the right side of my back when I get to the heavy range on lifts where I hold the weight below my waist, such as SLDL, One Arm Bent over rows, etc. I realized that if I keep my head down instead or looking up into the mirror it hurts less. I was just wondering if anyone had an opinion on this.

Lat Pulldowns/WG Pull-ups (sets 5-9)
3 x 70/90/110/130/BW/BW/+25/+35/+45

Weighted Dips/Close Grip Bench (sets 6-9)
3 x +25/+35/+45/+55/+70/135/185/195/205

- I switched from weighted dips to close grip bench, because loading the plates onto the weight belt for the dips got tedious and was taking up too much time, especially with a lifting partner.

High Grip Seated Row (Hammer Strength)
140 x 26 -15s Rest Pause- x 10
180 x 18 -15s Rest Pause- x 6

Rope Pressdown
100 x 25 -15s RP- x 10
120 x 10 -15s RP- x 5

Lying Leg Curls (35 lb on beginning fork + 45 lb on middle fork)
70 x 25 -15s RP- x7

*Notes- Pretty good workout, but it lasted entirely too long doing the 9 sets of 3. I didn't get too do much hams, because my workout was pushing 2 hrs which is WAY too long. Anyway, next rotation i'll be switching up my sets and reps, so my workouts won't take as long.

Libido- Down a little more than before, but still very high.
Strength- I'm feeling pretty good and my strength is looking good.
Body Composition- Not many changes yet.
Vascularity- Same
Pump- Didn't have a huge pump, but I wasn't doing very high reps.
Mood- My mood is great compared to what it was over break
Recovery- Good. Sore, but not as sore as expected.
Side-effects (acne, aggression)- none

[size=+1]Diet[/size]

10:30- 1 packet of oatmeal
11:30- 1 stuffed pepper (1 whole green pepper, hamburger, rice, red sauce) + 3 fishoils
12:30- Homemade Gainer Shake (2 scoops protein, 6 tbsp egg whites, 1 tbsp canola oil, 2 tbsp PB)
4:30- Turkey Sandwich (4 slices turkey, 2 slices wheat bread, 2 slices cheese)
5:30- Handful of mixed nuts
6:00- 4 oz. of Salmon
7:00- Intra-workout drink (2 tbsp BCAA's, 4 tbsp egg whites)
9:00- Protein Shake (3 scoops of Protein) + 1 scoop gatorade mix
11:15- Two pieces wheat toast +two packets of jelly
11:45- 2 caps Formex (50 mg)
12:30- Small Plate of Vegetarian Lasagna


*Notes- I'm probably at maintenance right now with my diet. I really need to start getting more calories. Good thing I went shopping today. I also should have some more protein on the way, so I can drink more shakes throughout the day to get my cals in.
 
AK32408 said:
I took International Relations a few semesters ago for an elective and I had a 20 page semester project on a country of our choice... good thing I didn't start it until 2 weeks of the due date :scared:

lol :p
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jdg487 said:
A few semesters ago I had this retarted "technical writing" class where we had to right an official proposition to the university about one thing that we thought they could improve upon. It had to be more than 15 pages and you had to do all this other bs work. I also started late as usual, luckily my teacher graded real easy and I got by w/ a B. And then the next semester they dropped that class from my major requirements, figures...
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I don't even want to have to think about that much writing. Luckily, I don't think I will have any classes where I will have to write something that long.



jdg487 said:
Sorry for taking up space Physique w/ my rant back to business!!!
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No prob jdg, thanks for keeping my log bumped, so hopefully more people will read it!
 
I think my girlfriend would want me to take this...

I have a feeling with the added effects of this on "off days" you are still working out.
 
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anabolicRyan1 said:
I think my girlfriend would want me to take this...

I have a feeling with the added effects of this on "off days" you are still working out.
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Haha, yeah that's how I felt. Although the school gym was closed because we were coming off of spring break week, I could still get my exercise in right in the comfort of my own room :D
 
UPDATE: I finally checked my weight today, and I seem to be up 2 lbs from where I THINK I started the log at. Keep in mind I said THINK. I definitely feel my strength going up as I beat out last weeks bench today. I guess I will post up a week 1 update tomorrow instead of giving a boring update of my OFF day yesterday. Anyway, I just finished off half a pizza as my first post workout meal and I need to eat again... I'm thinking maybe pancakes for some odd reason.
 
PhysiqueFreak said:
UPDATE: I finally checked my weight today, and I seem to be up 2 lbs from where I THINK I started the log at. Keep in mind I said THINK. I definitely feel my strength going up as I beat out last weeks bench today. I guess I will post up a week 1 update tomorrow instead of giving a boring update of my OFF day yesterday. Anyway, I just finished off half a pizza as my first post workout meal and I need to eat again... I'm thinking maybe pancakes for some odd reason.
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Holy sh*t! Pizza and Pancakes? What do you use for intra, Crispy Creme?
You're a lucky SOB if you can eat that stuff and maintain a steady weight. :food:

Good job on your increased Bench Press.
 
Iron Lungz said:
Holy sh*t! Pizza and Pancakes? What do you use for intra, Crispy Creme?
You're a lucky SOB if you can eat that stuff and maintain a steady weight. :food:

Good job on your increased Bench Press.
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Man, I need all the help I can get trying to gain weight. I've still got a pretty fast metabolism. But if it counts for anything, the pizza was garlic chicken from a restaurant emulating foods from San-Fran, so it couldn't have been too bad. And I never ended up eating any pancakes, but if I did, they would have been protein pancakes ;)
 
PhysiqueFreak said:
Man, I need all the help I can get trying to gain weight. I've still got a pretty fast metabolism. But if it counts for anything, the pizza was garlic chicken from a restaurant emulating foods from San-Fran, so it couldn't have been too bad. And I never ended up eating any pancakes, but if I did, they would have been protein pancakes ;)
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Make all shakes that you drink with milk and 50g protein. This will help for sure ;)
 
[size=+3]Day 8 of Formex[/size]​

Sorry this is an overdue update from two days ago!

[size=+1]Workout[/size]

Chest/Bi's

DB Incline Bench (4 x 5,4,3,2)
60's/70's/75's/75's(x5)

WG Preacher Curl (w/ hammer curl bar) (5,4,3,2)
55/85/85/95

Flat BB Bench (5,4,3,2)
185/205/225/245

Seated Alternating DB Curl (4 x 8)
8 x 30's/35's/30's/30's(x 10)

Push-Ups (least amount of sets to 100 reps, 30s rest between sets)
45/20/15/15/8 (=103)

Neutral Grip Pull-ups (least amount of sets to 50 reps, 30s rest between sets)
20/10/7/6/7

*Notes- Pretty good workout. My Flat BB Bench is up from last week and I didn't even hit it when I was fresh this time. Hopefully I will hit some PR's on it soon.

Libido- Still up, but not as high as it was a few days ago.
Strength- Seems to be on the rise.
Body Composition- Maybe a little leaner?
Vascularity- Same
Pump- Was ok. Going for low reps lately though
Mood- My mood has been pretty good.
Recovery- My recovery has been ok, but not stellar.
Side-effects (acne, aggression)- The past two nights, I have woken up in the middle of the night and not been able to go to bed, especially last night and it sucked. I think I am going to stop dosing Formex at night for a while and see if that helps.


[size=+1]Diet[/size]

9:15- 2 cups of Kashi, high protein cereal (dry)
1:15- MesoTech complete PB protein bar + 1 cap Formex (25mg)
1:40- 1 banana
3:15- 2 slices of fried turkey (lunch meat) + 2 eggs over easy + 2 slices amer. cheese between two slices of wheat toast + 1 cup 2% milk
6:30- 1/4 cup liquid egg whites + 1/2 scoop of protein in water.
8:30- Post Workout= 4 cups 1% choco milk
9:30- 1/2 of a 14" Garlic Chicken Pizza
10:30- 2 cups of 2% Milk + 3 fishoils + 1 cap Formex (25mg)


*Notes- Diet has been ok. I just got a weight gainer in, so hopefully taking a shake between meals will help me pack on some more weight. Gotta go eat! peace
 
[size=+3]Week 1 Formex Update[/size]​

Libido- Over the course of a week, my libido has been pretty sky high. I don't think it could get any higher than what it was like 5 days ago.

Strength- My strength seems to be going up. I have been doing lower reps as of late, which is not the norm, so it could be natural progression, but I feel like I am progressing faster than I would normally.

Body Composition- I'm looking a little leaner lately, near the tops of my biceps and the tops of the front of my shoulders most notably. We'll see if this continues.

Vascularity- My vascularity hasn't really changed. The only changes are day to day and really depend on my diet.

Pump- My pumps have been normal for the low rep workouts I have been doing lately.

Mood- My mood was elevated for most of the week, but I was pretty grumpy yesterday, may have been the weather.

Recovery- My recovery isn't as good as I would have predicted. I haven't noticed many changes in my ability to recover. We will see if this changes at all when my sets and reps change week to week.

Side-effects (acne, aggression)- None to note really, although yesterday I had the urge to pound on people that pissed me off. Also, dosing Formex at night might be affecting my sleep in a bad way, so I will toy with that and see if I can pinpoint the cause.

Overall: Overall, my experience with Formex has been good thus far. I'd have to say that I am most impressed with the strength gains so far and we will see if they continue.
 
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