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1st cycle opinions

Haltera

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My gym buddy wants to do his first cycle next may, and it look like this:

1 week: 200mg propionate/wk
10mg original superdrol

2 week: 200mg prop/wk
20mg original superdrol
25mg oxandrolone

3 week: 200mg prop/wk
20mg SD
25mg oxandrolone
150mg prostanozol

4 week: 200mg prop/wk
45mg oxa
200 mg prost

5 week: 200mg prop/wk
45 mg oxa
250mg prost

6 week: 200mg prop/wk
45mg oxa
300mg prost

Just some notes:
he will run aromasin 12,5 mg EOD
His weight is about 94kg - 1'82m - 12-14% BF
Former natural competitor (real natural) with about 6 years of training experience

It looks like a lot of oral stuff to me but he's pretty decided to do it this way. He even plans to do a 2-3 months off and a quite heavier cycle for 12-14 wks.

Any inputs would be great guys XD
 
No inputs?

What about changing all the SD (x 3weeks)+OXA(x 5weeks) for Oral Turinabol at 30-40mg for all the 6 weeks...?? (remaining only the prostanozol x 4 weeks)
 
How did he arrive at 200mgs of prop? If hes taking it as he should, EOD, then thats a fairly small amount per injection....I would simply have him take it at 100mg EOD and be done with it.

holy
 
Well, he'll be using 2x25mg Human Grade Testex every Monday, Wed, Frid, sunday... He says that it will work even better than 300mg UG stuff...

and people say that santa clause exists, and people said the earth was flat.

2x25mg? are these capsules?
 
prop should be at least 100mg eod. otherwise ur shuting ur natural test down for basically no benefits

Well, I have seen other people using the same 200-250mg HG prop for 7 weeks and get noticeable results... Just add some orals and the results can only be better I guess...
Anyway, my friend is more interested in your opinion about the oral stuff , he's pretty sure about the test dosage...
 
and people say that santa clause exists, and people said the earth was flat.

2x25mg? are these capsules?

No man, it is testex 25mg/ml made by Q Pharma S.L. (spain) and he got his stuff for himself by prescription. (4 amps for box)... I dont know if your joking or what but I know FOR EXPERIENCE the stuff works great (I used 350mg/w and it blows away 500mg of UG LEGIT enanthate every day...)
 
Well, I have seen other people using the same 200-250mg HG prop for 7 weeks and get noticeable results...

It certainly WILL yield results....but remember, its about being the most efficient you can be with your hormone levels. Why take just enough to make small gains, when you know there is a very real risk of suppression/shutdown. Being efficient means taking enough to make real gains, yet not enough to risk any unwanted sides. This will shift as you get more experienced and use more gear, but at the same time you dont want to start out too low either.

holy
 
Thanks holy I will try with him but as I said he's pretty firm about his test dosing... ;(

Anyway guys, could you give me your opinion about the 2 oral options?

Oral turinabol for 6 weeks at 30-40mg (+prost)

or

SD x3 weeks + anavar x5 weeks (+prost)

or

turinabol+sd, or whatever... any suggestion is well received XD
 
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