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Pushing Dormant Fibers to the Max(Epistane 4wk log)

that should say 10:30am.... I'm following a dosing protocol from neoborn's thread....

So, lets say someone is following a 30/40/50/60 (completely illustrative and does NOT serve as a "recommendation" by me):

Your first week's dosing would see:
4:00am - 1 cap / 10:00am - 1 cap / 4:00pm - 1 cap

Your second week's dosing would see:
4:00am - 2 caps / 10:00am - 1 cap / 4:00pm - 1 cap
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I like to take my last dose around 4-4:30pm so that i can take my milk thistle at night before bed1
 
DormantFiber said:
that should say 10:30am.... I'm following a dosing protocol from neoborn's thread....



I like to take my last dose around 4-4:30pm so that i can take my milk thistle at night before bed1
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ok that looks fine. I just dosed as evenly as possible. 30mg = every 8 hours. 40mg = every 6 hours. I was dosing my last pill around 9-10 pm and to be honest sleep never could have been better lol.
 
what do you guys think is the max epi dose you could get away with? im still tempted to re add the dienelone prohormone tren to it but I dont like the way it messes with a guys mind, im kind of high strung as it is, I read somewhere people going 60mg, seems overkill for me, also I found in week 2 acne really kicked in on me with the epi. you getting any acne dormant? or have you felt any improvements in mood? i swear once you do you will love epi, I love it just for how good it makes you feel, that snese of well being as oppesed to kill em all.
 
Day 11

Stats Up on waking:
W: 188.8 (+2.4)
BF: 29.8 (+2.1)


Quads & Hamstrings
Warm Up for 5 minutes on treadmill
Quads
Barbell Squats
Leg Press
Leg Extension
Hamstrings
Lying Leg Curl
Barbell Lunges
Calves
Standing Single Calf Raises
Pullups 5x5

Workout Comments:
Got in the gym at 5am this morning, after warm up got started to do my legs did my workout a little different today sets of 15,12,10 and 15 reps compared to 3x10, finish all of my sets and felt extra strength in the end the only exception was lunges but i raised the weight there, I also used a spin bike in between sets to keep blood flowing in my legs. got a really good sweat this time. Overall my w/o lasted 1.5 hours and i did not have time for my cool down cardio.


Cycle Comments:
I'll keep the same protocol mentioned yesterday till the end of this week, yesterday for the first time i started to have a sense of well being and was getting anxious to get back in the gym to train, I'm also was feeling a good pump through out the day primarily on my chest and arms, maybe its a sign this is starting to kick in. Libido is good, I've been waking up with morning wood in the last 2 days and pretty happy about that! ;)

Tomorrow I have to work late so to save energy I will skip my workout, Friday I will work half day I'll try to w/o in the afternoon but this weekend I'll be getting some serious workouts.

Today I found a really nice w/o tracking excel sheet i plan to adopt, starting next week I will track my lifts much better :thumbsup:
 
I like to use higher reps with my legs, esp squats. My legs respond much better to higher rep sets!! Kinda like a cardio workout also!!!
 
searl12 said:
nothing but protein powder and creatine , every other supplement is a waste of money. btw careful you will get negged for cluttering up these guys thread , or standing up for yourself when they rip on you.
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c`mon man you came to a log asking questions out of context, here we call that kind of procedure "thread hijacking", no one here wanted to neg you in the first place but you keep attacking the good bros around here, take a chill pill and do a search or start your own threads when you have questions
I`m not attacking you just give you my advice as a old member of the board
 
bonscott said:
I like to use higher reps with my legs, esp squats. My legs respond much better to higher rep sets!! Kinda like a cardio workout also!!!
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same here, leg workouts are my favorite i tend to do more reps per set up to 20 and I will do more sets while tapering down the weight specially on leg presses, usually i break out and sweat when doing them leg presses.
 
DormantFiber said:
same here, leg workouts are my favorite i tend to do more reps per set up to 20 and I will do more sets while tapering down the weight specially on leg presses, usually i break out and sweat when doing them leg presses.
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man leg day is like hell to me , I hate it but I go heavy like I always do
 
nunes said:
c`mon man you came to a log asking questions out of context, here we call that kind of procedure "thread hijacking", no one here wanted to neg you in the first place but you keep attacking the good bros around here, take a chill pill and do a search or start your own threads when you have questions
I`m not attacking you just give you my advice as a old member of the board
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Ok i agree, but it was my 1st day man! I asked a question! then dude asked me a question so i respnded asked me if i was another member then said your anti creatine?
so i responded thx for welcoming a new member who had a question.
 
I got an idea ill go away cause i dont care and you guys quit making comments about ti caus eu have no idea , once again...

I WAS NEW HERE AND I DIDNT KNOW WHERE TO ASK THE QUESTION!!!!!!!!!!!
 
wearedbleedblue said:
What kind of rest period are you taking between sets? 90 min seems like a long workout.
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I was not checking my rest periods today but they were longer than usual... today i was doing pullups and writing the spin bike in between sets, plus on leg days i'll do more reps per set and more sets as well... 90min is a long time i need to cut that down so that i can get my cardio done!
 
searl12 said:
I got an idea ill go away cause i dont care and you guys quit making comments about ti caus eu have no idea , once again...

I WAS NEW HERE AND I DIDNT KNOW WHERE TO ASK THE QUESTION!!!!!!!!!!!
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you don't need to go away just do a search first and then try again, all members are welcome just have to learn the rules first
 
nunes said:
man leg day is like hell to me , I hate it but I go heavy like I always do
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I used to skip legs workout a few months ago, in a couple of instances I was catching some bug and really got hell of sick after my leg workouts, then i stopped for a while and when i got back in to the routine, man it hurt to the point i could barely walk... now its my favorite workout day :thumbsup:
 
I hate legs........period. It almost sucks as much as grip training
 
SilentBob187 said:
X2. Don't wanna build a house on a flimsy foundation.
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Great analogy! :D

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i have probly the worst genetics when it comes to legs. Everyone in my family has skinny legs!
 
thaO, you are lucky that your bad genetics stop at your legs.... my bad gens kept going and going
now go work those legs :thumbsup:

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Day 12

Stats Up on waking:
W: 188.6 (+2.4)
BF: 29.5 (+1.8)


Workout Comments:
I did not make it to the gym today, i knew i had to work very late and so i decided to skip it since i was going to have an extra long day anyway.


Cycle Comments:
Not much to report here, it seems running at 30mg a day is not doing the trick, i'll be bumping this to 40mg over the weekend we shall see and wait for better results.
 
Day 13

Stats Up on waking:
W: 189.8 (+3.4)
BF: 29.0 (+1.3)


Workout Comments:
I made to the gym today but not for high intensity training, last night i did not get enough rest and my diet was off, instead of weight training i did cardio for an hour and did my pullups 2x5 as part of the pullups challenge when all was done I checked in for some tanning, steam room and the sauna, I got a really good sweat while in there and i'm felling pretty good right now.


Cycle Comments:
Same as yesterday, i'm following the same protocol and waiting for this to kick in, libido is all good otherwise not feeling any sides.
 
what is this pull up challenge i keep hearing about?
 
DormantFiber said:
on the last day you need to do 100 but its not consequentially you can take rest periods say 5x20 or 4x25..... or if you can do them w/o rest periods more power to ya! So, are you in?

cheers,
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bro I would love to do it but I have a mild tendinitis in my left shoulder and I think that in the last days I would aggravate the problem but I wish you the best of luck in that routine
 
Good stuff DF. I've gotta hit 22 of those bad boys tomorrow (no problem,) since I've been nursing a cold for most of the week/weekend.
 
nunes said:
bro I would love to do it but I have a mild tendinitis in my left shoulder and I think that in the last days I would aggravate the problem but I wish you the best of luck in that routine
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with your shoulder tendinitis this may not be good for ya! how do you get your other workouts done? do you workout shoulders at all?
 
No problemo. 5,5,4,3,2,2,1. It was looking grim there for a minute.
 
Day 14
3/14/09

Stats Up on waking:
W: 188.8 (+2.4)
BF: 29.2 (+1.5)


Workout Comments:
I did not make it to the gym today, today was my turn to take care of the kids from sunrise till sunset by the time they went to bed the gym was already closed.


Cycle Comments:
Epi has not kicked in yet so today i grabbed some supps that i will be stacking in this cycle, Anabolic Pump and P-Slin, both are still closed and i was planning to save them for PCT but i want this to kick in at any cost ;) i'll decide in the morning which one to run
 
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I told you before how it kicked in around the third week for me,.. I should add that my cycle was 30/40/40/50!!! Now, I'm a bit heavier than you, so I don't know if that would matter. Just wanted to make that clear to ya!!!
 
bonscott said:
I told you before how it kicked in around the third week for me,.. I should add that my cycle was 30/40/40/50!!! Now, I'm a bit heavier than you, so I don't know if that would matter. Just wanted to make that clear to ya!!!
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thanks B, i do think my weight is playing a factor here, I'm doing 20/30/40/40 here and this is the start of my 3rd week, I was thinking of kicking another notch by adding anabolic pump along with this since thus far I've feel little to no effect yet, I'm ready to get big :thumbsup:
 
I think you're gonna like 40 a day!!! I've never used AP, but I've heard fabulous things about it. I prefer to keep my cycles just the ph/ps and protein powder, and I use the goodies in pct. That's just me though!!
 
Damn.....still no progress with the epi? Hope it kicks in for ya soon!
 
DormantFiber said:
with your shoulder tendinitis this may not be good for ya! how do you get your other workouts done? do you workout shoulders at all?
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its under control, it only hurts when I over train so not a big deal
DormantFiber said:
Day 14
3/14/09

Stats Up on waking:
W: 188.8 (+2.4)
BF: 29.2 (+1.5)


Workout Comments:
I did not make it to the gym today, today was my turn to take care of the kids from sunrise till sunset by the time they went to bed the gym was already closed.


Cycle Comments:
Epi has not kicked in yet so today i grabbed some supps that i will be stacking in this cycle, Anabolic Pump and P-Slin, both are still closed and i was planning to save them for PCT but i want this to kick in at any cost ;) i'll decide in the morning which one to run
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that's why I left orals, when they kick they are ruining our health, so only injects nowadays
 
nunes said:
its under control, it only hurts when I over train so not a big deal


that's why I left orals, when they kick they are ruining our health, so only injects nowadays
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nunes, you have a very good point there... orals are more harsh on your system with less results than injects, that being said I wanted to try this epi and I'm by no means ready for injects, at least not w/o a good coach sort of speak.
 
DormantFiber said:
nunes, you have a very good point there... orals are more harsh on your system with less results than injects, that being said I wanted to try this epi and I'm by no means ready for injects, at least not w/o a good coach sort of speak.
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yeah brother you should try orals to see how they work with you , unfortunately in my case is a waste of time, some of us don't respond very well to orals, my first oral cycle was with d-bol , my liver enzymes went through the roof and my test suppressed but the results were very week .
with injects the results are good , quicker and safer so nowadays I do 6 week on with short esters injects and 8 weeks off , I`m actually in my second cycle with this protocol and I like it.
In your case you probably will fell the epi next week but if I was you I wouldn't go further than 4 weeks
 
Day 15
3/15/09

Stats Up on waking:
W: 190.0 (+3.6)
BF: 29.7 (+2.0)


Training: Chest & Triceps & Forearms
Warm Up for 5 minutes on treadmill
Chest
Incline Bench Press
Bench Press
Decline Bench Press
Pec Deck Butterfly's
Triceps
SM Close Grip Bench Presses
Rope Pushdown
V Bar Pushdown
Seated Machine Extensions
Forearms
Reverse Barbell Curls
Dumbbell Wrist Curls

Workout Comments:
Its been 3 days since I've trained so i was very anxious to get in the gym this morning i even got up 30min before my alarm clock went off and out the door i went, I was the 2nd guy there right as they opened, workout was great but not killer however i did all my planned exercises with energy left and had some good pumps while doing triceps

Cycle Comments:
This is the start of my 3rd week and it seems that strength is moving up, my libido has been through the roof recently, I'm also starting to feel some pain on my joints (knees and elbows) I currently take 9mg of fish oil, 3 with breakfast, 3 with lunch and 3 before bed, I'll be taking 4 each time to see if that helps.

I've been logging this one day behind recently due to my hectic schedule but I'll be adding to this log every day!
 
DormantFiber said:
Day 15
3/15/09

Stats Up on waking:
W: 190.0 (+3.6)
BF: 29.7 (+2.0)


Training: Chest & Triceps & Forearms
Warm Up for 5 minutes on treadmill
Chest
Incline Bench Press
Bench Press
Decline Bench Press
Pec Deck Butterfly's
Triceps
SM Close Grip Bench Presses
Rope Pushdown
V Bar Pushdown
Seated Machine Extensions
Forearms
Reverse Barbell Curls
Dumbbell Wrist Curls

Workout Comments:
Its been 3 days since I've trained so i was very anxious to get in the gym this morning i even got up 30min before my alarm clock went off and out the door i went, I was the 2nd guy there right as they opened, workout was great but not killer however i did all my planned exercises with energy left and had some good pumps while doing triceps

Cycle Comments:
This is the start of my 3rd week and it seems that strength is moving up, my libido has been through the roof recently, I'm also starting to feel some pain on my joints (knees and elbows) I currently take 9mg of fish oil, 3 with breakfast, 3 with lunch and 3 before bed, I'll be taking 4 each time to see if that helps.

I've been logging this one day behind recently due to my hectic schedule but I'll be adding to this log every day!
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you`re doing a great job bro
 
nunes said:
yeah brother you should try orals to see how they work with you , unfortunately in my case is a waste of time, some of us don't respond very well to orals, my first oral cycle was with d-bol , my liver enzymes went through the roof and my test suppressed but the results were very week .
with injects the results are good , quicker and safer so nowadays I do 6 week on with short esters injects and 8 weeks off , I`m actually in my second cycle with this protocol and I like it.
In your case you probably will fell the epi next week but if I was you I wouldn't go further than 4 weeks
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nunes, I envy your position to have full access to and no restrictions on running injects, I guess i should plan a stop in Porto on my next trip home :thumbsup:
 
Day 16
3/16/09

Stats Up on waking:
W: 188.2 (+1.8)
BF: 29.0 (+1.3)
Sometimes i wonder why i bother with logging my weight and specially my bf, this damn scale is full of it and lying to me

Training: Back & Biceps & Abs
Warm Up for 5 minutes on treadmill
Back
Hyperextensions
Deadlifts
Lat Pulldown
Low Row
Biceps
Barbell Bar Curls
Standing Cable Curls
Single Arm Cable Curls
Hammer Cable Curls
Abs
Hanging Leg Raises
Abdominal Crunches
Cool Down: walk 1 mile
Pullpus: 5x5

Workout Comments:
Got 5hrs of sleep last night but convinced myself to go the gym and my workout was great today I felt more aggression while w/o from the very beginning and finish all my exercises early, got good pumps while working out my biceps
tomorrow is my day off but I'll join the spin class i had a really good time doing that last week.

Cycle Comments:
My strength seems to be picking up, i was getting really good pumps today.
 
DormantFiber said:
nunes, I envy your position to have full access to and no restrictions on running injects, I guess i should plan a stop in Porto on my next trip home :thumbsup:
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lol, you`re welcome and you can stay at my house, I have a guest room,
6 weeks will be expensive in an hotel:laugh:...
 
speaking of stoopid scales. I bought one at target. Guess im obese since the last time i checked...........cause it said i was 30-36% body fat. It changed everytime i stepped on it. They r garbage!
 
thaOrleanyte said:
speaking of stoopid scales. I bought one at target. Guess im obese since the last time i checked...........cause it said i was 30-36% body fat. It changed everytime i stepped on it. They r garbage!
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now i dont feel so bad knowing i'm not the only obese guy here running logs :laugh:
 
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