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Epi PCT

pboy85

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I am in the middle of my third week of an Epi cycle. The cycle is going great so far. I have experienced a substantial increase in strength (crazy strength!!), i have gained 5 lbs and at the same time I am leaning out and i am very horny :smirk:. I am loving it!! I have followed the following cycle:

Wk 1 20mg
Wk 2 30mg
Wk 3 30mg (Mon & Tues) 40mg (rest of the week)
Wk 4 40mg

I started Creatine monohydrate on the same day. I did the loading phase during week one and continue thereafter at 5mg/day. So I attribute some of the mass gains and strength to creatine as well.
I am also taking Perfect PCT for liver support and will continue to take it during PCT.

My planned PCT is:

Wk 1 40 Nolva, 25 Nutraplanet ATD
Wk 2 40 Nolva, 25 ATD
Wk 3 30 Nolva, 50 ATD
Wk 4 20 Nolva, 75 ATD

I was planning to add ALRI's Restore to my PCT but I read there was some mislabeling in their ingredients which led users to undesirable results. So, I am considering Diesel Test instead. What do you guys suggest?
 
For something mild like epistane I would probably use Nolva at something like 20/20/10/10.That's just me though.
 
i dk if i would go up with the dosages of ATD. personally i think its better to start high then scale down. and watch it at 75mgs..could suffer some libido loss
 
Thanks for the feedback. I will change my Nolva as suggested 20/20/10/10.
Bigpapa, the reason why I am planning to dose the ATD in incremets is because of Neoborn's Epistane Faq Thread, he suggest to dose nolva starting high and then low and ATD starting low and the increase it. However, if I experince libido loss I will move the dose from 75mg to 50 mg. Thanks!!
 
glad people on this board are starting to realize 40mg of nolva is too much for these milder cycles

agreed on the 20/20/10/10... i'd also get a diff AI personally, ATD is trash at higher doses IMO

but I do like the idea of tapering up an AI while tapering down the Serm... has worked well for me in the past
 
Movin_weight said:
glad people on this board are starting to realize 40mg of nolva is too much for these milder cycles

agreed on the 20/20/10/10... i'd also get a diff AI personally, ATD is trash at higher doses IMO

but I do like the idea of tapering up an AI while tapering down the Serm... has worked well for me in the past
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I have also used this SERM/ATD protocol in a Superdrol PCT and it worked for me. Are u suggesting a different AI or just ATD at different dosage? Thanks
 
I'll agree with these guys on the 20/20/10/10 for the Nolva.

I would also taper the ATD 25/25/50/50/25/25...you have to be carefull with ATD because it's also suppressive at high doses. running a low dose 2 weeks after the serm should also help keep you from getting estrogen rebound.
 
pboy85 said:
I have also used this SERM/ATD protocol in a Superdrol PCT and it worked for me. Are u suggesting a different AI or just ATD at different dosage? Thanks
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it's personal preference really but i have never been a fan of atd since it seems to take a hit on my libido... 6-bromo is a better otc AI in my oppinion, and adex is a solid choice as well if you go the research chem direction
 
OK, so I think I have come with two options for my PCT:

1) Post Cycle Support/Nolva
2) Advanced PCT/ Nolva

No ATD for either one. Has any of you tried any of the two combinations for PCT?
 
pboy85 said:
I am in the middle of my third week of an Epi cycle. The cycle is going great so far. I have experienced a substantial increase in strength (crazy strength!!), i have gained 5 lbs and at the same time I am leaning out and i am very horny :smirk:. I am loving it!! I have followed the following cycle:

Wk 1 20mg
Wk 2 30mg
Wk 3 30mg (Mon & Tues) 40mg (rest of the week)
Wk 4 40mg

I started Creatine monohydrate on the same day. I did the loading phase during week one and continue thereafter at 5mg/day. So I attribute some of the mass gains and strength to creatine as well.
I am also taking Perfect PCT for liver support and will continue to take it during PCT.

My planned PCT is:

Wk 1 40 Nolva, 25 Nutraplanet ATD
Wk 2 40 Nolva, 25 ATD
Wk 3 30 Nolva, 50 ATD
Wk 4 20 Nolva, 75 ATD

I was planning to add ALRI's Restore to my PCT but I read there was some mislabeling in their ingredients which led users to undesirable results. So, I am considering Diesel Test instead. What do you guys suggest?
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I'm also in my third week as well. Trying to find a PCT myself. IBE recommends X-Lean. I heard good things about Diesel Test Hardcore, and I was thinking maybe Reversitol.

Stack DTH & Reversitol too much? IDK. Any reason to do so? I'm new to anabolics but have done a lot of homework to get me this far but everybody has a different answer. I know Monsterbox recommends reversitol in a thread around here somewhere, so I'll probably grab some of that, but not sure.
 
Footloose301 said:
I'm also in my third week as well. Trying to find a PCT myself. IBE recommends X-Lean. I heard good things about Diesel Test Hardcore, and I was thinking maybe Reversitol.

Stack DTH & Reversitol too much? IDK. Any reason to do so? I'm new to anabolics but have done a lot of homework to get me this far but everybody has a different answer. I know Monsterbox recommends reversitol in a thread around here somewhere, so I'll probably grab some of that, but not sure.
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How is your cylce going? Mine is going great!! The strength Ive gained is unbelievable and my recovery is great as well. I have also gained muscle. Well, I have planned the following cycle:

Wk 1 Nolva 20
Wk 2 Nolva 20
Wk 3 Nolva 10/ Post Cycle Support
Wk 4 Nolva 10/ Post Cycle Support
Wk 5 Post Cycle Support
Wk 6 Post Cycle Support

PCS ingredients are supposed to aid in absorption of Trans-Resveratrol.
 
I ran epistane 30/40/40/40/50 and didn't really notice any strength gains personally. Strikes me as being quite mild in comparison to other legal AAs/Ph's.
 
pboy85 said:
How is your cylce going? Mine is going great!! The strength Ive gained is unbelievable and my recovery is great as well. I have also gained muscle. Well, I have planned the following cycle:

Wk 1 Nolva 20
Wk 2 Nolva 20
Wk 3 Nolva 10/ Post Cycle Support
Wk 4 Nolva 10/ Post Cycle Support
Wk 5 Post Cycle Support
Wk 6 Post Cycle Support

PCS ingredients are supposed to aid in absorption of Trans-Resveratrol.
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Mine is going well too. My bench went from 235 to 265, but I bench maybe one day every other week.... :-/ Also, I can incline dumbell press 100's fairly well now where as 90's were tough. I'm running 50mg right now.(30mg before workout and 20mg after workout). Week one I took 20, week 2 I was at 30 and half way thru went to 40, and finished week 3 at 40, and today started at 50mg. Its extremely mild. I'm also taking MRI NO2, GNC's Ultra Mega Gold multivitamin, and triple strength fish oil before bed. And right after workout I drink an ABB Mass Recovery drink. Bought a case tonight because the gym charges too much by the bottle.

I'm thinking I'll just take Reversitol for my PCT, not sure if I should stack something else with it besides MRI's NO2, fish oil, and multi vitamins.....?
 
Footloose301 said:
Mine is going well too. My bench went from 235 to 265, but I bench maybe one day every other week.... :-/ Also, I can incline dumbell press 100's fairly well now where as 90's were tough. I'm running 50mg right now.(30mg before workout and 20mg after workout). Week one I took 20, week 2 I was at 30 and half way thru went to 40, and finished week 3 at 40, and today started at 50mg. Its extremely mild. I'm also taking MRI NO2, GNC's Ultra Mega Gold multivitamin, and triple strength fish oil before bed. And right after workout I drink an ABB Mass Recovery drink. Bought a case tonight because the gym charges too much by the bottle.

I'm thinking I'll just take Reversitol for my PCT, not sure if I should stack something else with it besides MRI's NO2, fish oil, and multi vitamins.....?
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Are you are taking some kind of lever care supplement, like cycle support? I am also adding fenugreek and maca to my PCT stack, I have taken this in the past during other PCTs and I am glad with the results. I have read a lot of great things about PCS, that is why I am giving it a try.
 
hey um newb to this site...but after year off n on research um finally bout to run first cycle with epistane...plan to do 4 weeks 20/30/30/40....

just wanted to get advice if i should add or change any my supps or pct during this cycle

support/supps:
mass xxx
whey pro
daily multi
black powder
creatine mono
milk thisle
flax seed oil
fish oil
animal prostate support

pct:
novedex xt
arom-x

arom-X is from an old stack i was going to run..never did cuz after research did seem worth it. is the novedex xt is enough by itself..if so how should i cycle it? or if the arom-X is any good? should i run both?
 
hugry4more said:
hey um newb to this site...but after year off n on research um finally bout to run first cycle with epistane...plan to do 4 weeks 20/30/30/40....

just wanted to get advice if i should add or change any my supps or pct during this cycle

support/supps:
mass xxx
whey pro
daily multi
black powder
creatine mono
milk thisle
flax seed oil
fish oil
animal prostate support

pct:
novedex xt
arom-x

arom-X is from an old stack i was going to run..never did cuz after research did seem worth it. is the novedex xt is enough by itself..if so how should i cycle it? or if the arom-X is any good? should i run both?
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I haven't used novedex xt or arom-x and by looking at the contents of arom-x it looks like you need to take six capsules for it to work, that means that you will need at least 3 bottles for a 4 week PCT. I have read Resveratrol and 6-bromo are the most suggested for Epi PCT along with SERM (nolva, clomi, torem).
 
yea that arom X seems to be crap...the guy from sup warehouse said the novedex xt will be enough n to cycle it 30/20/10/10....so i think ill just stick with that..epi and the novedex together was only like 60 something with shipping so um pretty happy thus far...can't wait to hit the gym with epistane n make some gains.
 
pboy85 said:
Do you have a specific reason for this?
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I have never used ATD, but I have used Reversitol after a harsh cycle of Omnevol. I was very uneducated about things like SERM, AI and all the important things when it comes to cycling. I did not know how to acquire SERMS so I took a chance and ran Reversitol, and it really got me back on track.
 
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