ON Cycle Estrogen Control

[Distilled Water]

I see more and more reports of people getting gyno on cycle. Sometimes it is because there is not the correct estrogen control going on while "ON" cycle. I just wanted to take a poll and see what some individuals do, or would recommend. (dose amounts/dose schedule)

Feel free to post links and other info in here to help the un-informed better understand how to control, not eliminate estrogen.

 

[Royd The Noyd]

Hey DW, voted a-dex however I believe you could get by with exemestane and/or letro too.

I havent used 6-oxo on cycle but it does interest me and I trust the science backing it. I would not use serms on cycle for various reasons.

Dosing for me is completely dependent on the cycle dosages. Seems like 1g+ of test/week and I need at least .75mg's of a-dex/day. Under 1g I can get by with .5mg of a-dex/day. Of course it changes with other compounds involved.

 

[nosnmiveins]

i believe only the first 4 listed are adequate anti-e's on an injectable cycle. but my vote would be adex cause thats what im going to use

 

[holyintellect]

I will continue to use and recommend arimidex...its obviously a step up the food chain from nolva, but Ive found that some of the others actually work too well, creating another set of issues....arimidex seems to be the best in real world applications. (for estrogen, not blood lipids)

holy

 

[crazyfool405]

i believe only the first 4 listed are adequate anti-e's on an injectable cycle. but my vote would be adex cause thats what im going to use

formestane can be GREAT on cycle, especially at high doses, good estro inhibition and possible increase in androgens as well.

however i would only use them EOD not ED

 

[dg806]

I think the most important words here are "to not eliminate estrogen". Some estrogen is good for you and gains. Most guys that take say 500mg of test e a week, may not need ANY ai's at all. I would have some on hand if needed, but I don't take any if I don't have too. I think guys these days are too scared of estrogen and don't really realize how important some is.

 

[corsaking]

Why not concentrate on flushing estrogen out the system by ensuring the livers performance is optimal and take drugs or substances which speed up the P450 system -enter reservatrol, grape seed extract.Why not consider taking diindolylmethane Studies show it works indirectly by changing the way estrogen is metabolized.

 

[NAS]

I think the most important words here are "to not eliminate estrogen". Some estrogen is good for you and gains. Most guys that take say 500mg of test e a week, may not need ANY ai's at all. I would have some on hand if needed, but I don't take any if I don't have too. I think guys these days are too scared of estrogen and don't really realize how important some is.

This is a good point that needs to be drilled into the heads of many users. It really depends on the user and how they react to whatever they are taking and in order to make a informed decision on if to take ai on cycle, well you have to try it and see how the body responds.

 

[nephilim666]

between .25 and .5 mg of arimidex a day depending on the compounds and doses used. only problem with prolonged use for me anyway is that it makes my cholesterol much worse. im with holy on this one, letro messes with my sex drive. ive never actualy used exemestane but i know many people who do and they like it, apparently its stronger than arimidex but not quite letro.

 

[jjohn]

Depends on what you want... If you decided to use something that aromatizes a lot, for example test, you probably want the benefits of having higher estrogen levels (better lipid profile on cycle, better libido, more of a wet look but excellent to gain mass rapidly etc..). If you don't want that at all, then I think you thought wrong of your cycle and should consider something dryer like winny, maybe even EQ...

If you got a bad surprise, you can use nolva at 10-15 mg ED to cease the pain and go on with your wet gains. This is what I would do personnaly.

If you want to dry up on a wet compound (which IMO is kinda stupid) then use an AI like letro.

Sometimes some are scared when sensitivity is there, but it's not always that bad.

 

[nunes]

masteron , anabolic and anti estrogenic

 

[corsaking]

I think the poll should be divided., and drugs such as nolva etc shouldnt be mixed in with OTC supplements. Some of us cannot get hold of drugs unless prescribed by a doctor and rely only on OTC supplements.

 

[EasyEJL]

if you can get injectable testosterone, you can get arimidex

 

[corsaking]

if you can get injectable testosterone, you can get arimidex

In the UK ARIMIDEX is not licenced for use by men This is whats its licenced for

Arimidex is a type of hormonal therapy used in the treatment of breast cancer in women who have had their menopause (change of life).

If youre prepared to do a bit of "dodgy dealing" then no doubt this would be obtainable However im not.

 

[EasyEJL]

Ah I was thinking US

 

[Gunslinger27]

personally I use GL Cissus Drol as an AI on cycle. 4 caps ed before bed.

 

[corsaking]

Ah I was thinking US

i get the impression from reading different posts that its quite easy for you guys to get drugs to compliment your supplement programme. They seem to be talked about as though youre buying sweets from Walmart -yes there here too under the name of ASDA -

Is this the wrong impression or is it easy to get what you want under your private health insurance ?

 

[corsaking]

Ive just ordered some 6 oxo to take whilest my e2 levels are very high for the first few weeks after my nebido (test undeconate) injection.I have a gut feeling i made a bad choice -can someone tell me otherwise?

(on test replacement therapy)

 

[SoCo4Fun]

i get the impression from reading different posts that its quite easy for you guys to get drugs to compliment your supplement programme. They seem to be talked about as though youre buying sweets from Walmart -yes there here too under the name of ASDA -

Is this the wrong impression or is it easy to get what you want under your private health insurance ?

We get them through other means than the Dr and Insurance