~~test prop...tren ace...nuff said~~

[crazyfool405]

already feelinging like a porn start. havent started caber yet. im debating whether to start it now, or wait till/if sides arrise

awesome

ar eyou mixing in the same syringe???

hows the pain when you pin?

 

[nosnmiveins]

awesome

ar eyou mixing in the same syringe???

hows the pain when you pin?

yup, same syringe. no injection pain, but the next day it feels like someone kicked me in the ass. right glute is still sore but fading, left glute is becoming more sore.

mooch, what sides did u get from caber?

 

[mooch2321]

yup, same syringe. no injection pain, but the next day it feels like someone kicked me in the ass. right glute is still sore but fading, left glute is becoming more sore.

mooch, what sides did u get from caber?

anxiety, very emotional, anger, headaches....ive never once gotten "roid rage"...but caber made me want to kill people...its a good thing i dont drink when im on stuff...cuz this and tequila= mooch in jail for murder:thumbsup:

 

[nosnmiveins]

cuz this and tequila= mooch in jail for murder:thumbsup:

definitely laughed out loud for that one :lol:

do u think maybe it was the tren that was giving u thouse sides?

 

[mooch2321]

nope...i used the caber to get rid of some tren induced gyno...i was already done with pct by the time i got on the caber....

 

[nosnmiveins]

nope...i used the caber to get rid of some tren induced gyno...i was already done with pct by the time i got on the caber....

hmm, pretty strange. PM replied

 

[nosnmiveins]

Inject #3. pinned right quad. first time ever doing quads....and just my luck...i hit a f ucking nerve. my leg twitched like a mofo. so of course i pulled out, new needle, and pinned again.

my legs are sore as hell because i hit them pretty hard yesturday for sh!ts and giggles....but i have a feeling that my right quad is gonna throb tomorrow.

libido still raging, nothing much else to report on

 

[nosnmiveins]

legs are sore as f uck from saturday, but i can definitely notice i injected in my right quad. nothing toooo bad though.

decided to hit back and bi's today. pumps were INSANE and strength is climbing.

todays weight: 198 (+3)

 

[tim1985]

legs are sore as f uck from saturday, but i can definitely notice i injected in my right quad. nothing toooo bad though.

decided to hit back and bi's today. pumps were INSANE and strength is climbing.

todays weight: 198 (+3)

Dam Im jealous! I want to run Test so bad! :food:

 

[papapumpsd]

Inject #3. pinned right quad. first time ever doing quads....and just my luck...i hit a f ucking nerve. my leg twitched like a mofo. so of course i pulled out, new needle, and pinned again.

my legs are sore as hell because i hit them pretty hard yesturday for sh!ts and giggles....but i have a feeling that my right quad is gonna throb tomorrow.

libido still raging, nothing much else to report on

I'm watchin' this dood!

Is your leg zingin' yet, or has the nerve irritation chilled?

 

[nosnmiveins]

I'm watchin' this dood!

Is your leg zingin' yet, or has the nerve irritation chilled?

right quad adjusted pretty well to the pain pretty quickly. Pin #4 today....hit a f ucking nerve again. its not painful, just weird to see my legs muscles twitching.

hit chest/tri's today. not much change today. i attribute this to a lacking appetite today. i woke up with a runny nose and scratchy throat....test flu possibly...but who knows. theres definitely a bug going around school. weight still +3

 

[nosnmiveins]

nights are getting a little strange. i feel like im dreaming but i feel like im awake. il get this feeling about 2-3 time a night. it doesnt bother me but its weird.

no night sweats to report, no anger issues.

when do ya'll think the tren will kick in fairly well? i havent noticed any impressive strength gains yet. today is the 1 week mark. i'll give it at least 1 more week and then might bump the tren to 100mg eod

 

[UnrealMachine]

that sounds good to me Nos, in fact i was thinking the same thing for my cycle, 75mg eod may not be enough. The real "tren responders" i've read about will use around 100mg ed of tren and get great gains few sides.

I doubt i'd be one of those people, but i'll never find out if i don't push the limits. I like to try to run a compound until i get sides, gives me the most insight for future use.

 

[nosnmiveins]

that sounds good to me Nos, in fact i was thinking the same thing for my cycle, 75mg eod may not be enough. The real "tren responders" i've read about will use around 100mg ed of tren and get great gains few sides.

I doubt i'd be one of those people, but i'll never find out if i don't push the limits. I like to try to run a compound until i get sides, gives me the most insight for future use.

so true. as per Holy's advise i didnt want to jump in head first if i could benefit from a low dose. tren is definitely a compound u dont want to run too much of. we shall see.

on another note. first HCG pin was yesturday, flawless, painless

 

[nosnmiveins]

trained legs saturday for shits and giggles. trained them today as well. saturdays workout took away from todays but i definitely blasted my legs....when i left the gym they were twitching

weight today: 201.6 (+ 6.6)....this cant be right...
first time EVER weighing over 200lbs

 

[nosnmiveins]

and to add, might be getting some injectable helios for my stuborn oblique fat :biggthumpup:

 

[Royd The Noyd]

and to add, might be getting some injectable helios for my stuborn oblique fat :biggthumpup:

Sounds fun, never tried it however. Cyclical ketosis diets seem to bring out my oblique lines quite well, although I probably wouldnt run such a diet on cycle.

Congrats on the 200lb barrier. :fing02:

 

[crazyfool405]

and to add, might be getting some injectable helios for my stuborn oblique fat :biggthumpup:

good **** for finding that man its truly hard to find!!! good job

 

[nosnmiveins]

thanks guys.

helios might be worth a shot for the price. ive never been able to get rid of my oblique fat even when dieting. my dad is the same way and told me hes ALWAYS had them even when he was 6-8%bf and playing college football.

 

[crazyfool405]

thanks guys.

helios might be worth a shot for the price. ive never been able to get rid of my oblique fat even when dieting. my dad is the same way and told me hes ALWAYS had them even when he was 6-8%bf and playing college football.

good stuff, is that a sub Q injection? you gunna do 1/2 mL each oblique? i wonder how localized it is. i havent seen much research on it..

if anyone has articles maybe you guys can post em?

 

[nosnmiveins]

good stuff, is that a sub Q injection? you gunna do 1/2 mL each oblique? i wonder how localized it is. i havent seen much research on it..

if anyone has articles maybe you guys can post em?

i'll see if i can dig up something. yes shots are sub-q. from feedback, ppl reported that there was both localized fatloss as well as whole body fatloss. for dosing i would start at .3ml 2 x a day and up the dose as u become more tolerant

 

[crazyfool405]

i'll see if i can dig up something. yes shots are sub-q. from feedback, ppl reported that there was both localized fatloss as well as whole body fatloss. for dosing i would start at .3ml 2 x a day and up the dose as u become more tolerant

whats the mg per mL.

u using a Insulin syringe ?

 

[nosnmiveins]

Helios 20mL 40mcg Clenbuterol, 5.4mg Yohimbine

yes i would use an insulin syringe

 

[UnrealMachine]

**** man i never heard of helios. Congrats on blasting past 200. With the tren it really has to be lean gains too huh? Damn it sounds good.

So how's this cycle going to end, a lean 220?

 

[nosnmiveins]

**** man i never heard of helios. Congrats on blasting past 200. With the tren it really has to be lean gains too huh? Damn it sounds good.

So how's this cycle going to end, a lean 220?

helios were around way back when from my understanding. but demand was there so they were brought back. there is also an oral version.

gains so far seem lean to me. no matter what bodypart i workout my arms and shoulders always seem to have a pump goin on all day long which is nice.

im hoping strength gains will pick up by next week.

as for 220....i wish!! my goal was about 200lbs @ 8%bf or less. but now i think i'll shoot for 210lbs @ 10%bf. im hoping the tren will help some veins pop. even when i was 8%bf before i never had those bulging veins...i need me some vascularity

 

[UnrealMachine]

Your veins may be like mine, tons of smaller veins. Which doesn't look so good most of the time, but eventually I think they'll look gnarlier than the people with fewer, bigger veins.

 

[nosnmiveins]

Your veins may be like mine, tons of smaller veins. Which doesn't look so good most of the time, but eventually I think they'll look gnarlier than the people with fewer, bigger veins.

we shall see...

 

[crazyfool405]

yea helios was out about decade or so ago maybe

it my be cheaper just to take the oral versions of both.

there are more beta receptors on the tope half of your body and more alpha receptors on the lower half of the body.

and it seems to work orally very well.

if it aint broke dont fix it right? im definetly interested in this!

 

[nosnmiveins]

yea helios was out about decade or so ago maybe

it my be cheaper just to take the oral versions of both.

there are more beta receptors on the tope half of your body and more alpha receptors on the lower half of the body.

and it seems to work orally very well.

if it aint broke dont fix it right? im definetly interested in this!

so in english that means....


haha


well im reallllllly interested in the site fatloss. this isnt a for sure thing yet, gotta scrounge (sp?) up some funds

 

[crazyfool405]

so in english that means....


haha


well im reallllllly interested in the site fatloss. this isnt a for sure thing yet, gotta scrounge (sp?) up some funds

basically theres more sites for clen to work on on the upper body where as yohimbine works on the lower body primarily and estrogen dependant fat (which is in some places on the upperbody as well)


kinda get it?

its weird,

read it in the body opus book.

i can get the book on file for you and post it up here if youd like

 

[nosnmiveins]

i get it now, thanks crazy

 

[crazyfool405]

i get it now, thanks crazy

well i have the whole body opus book by dan duchain on PDF if anyone wants it.

 

[vikinginc]

In !

 

[mooch2321]

well i have the whole body opus book by dan duchain on PDF if anyone wants it.

yeah post that up for sure bro...

 

[mooch2321]

nights are getting a little strange. i feel like im dreaming but i feel like im awake. il get this feeling about 2-3 time a night. it doesnt bother me but its weird.

no night sweats to report, no anger issues.

when do ya'll think the tren will kick in fairly well? i havent noticed any impressive strength gains yet. today is the 1 week mark. i'll give it at least 1 more week and then might bump the tren to 100mg eod

i got the best results my second time around...i ran 50mg ed

 

[crazyfool405]

yeah post that up for sure bro...

ask and you shall recieve!!!

i didnt both putting the table of contents on there, its just a waste of space.

 

[mooch2321]

ask and you shall recieve!!!

i didnt both putting the table of contents on there, its just a waste of space.

:bling::box::notworthy::box:

 

[nosnmiveins]

i'll probably be bumping the tren up to 100mg eod in about a week. strength is starting to go up nicely.

 

[nosnmiveins]

today is an off day but ive had a huge pump in my arms all day. i keep getting back pumps too which is annoying but i'll get over it.

im at the rents for the weekend and the gf and I decided to have sex in the middle of the livingroom while they were asleep.....about 20 feet away. my gf seeemed to looooove the sneakiness of it:booty:

 

[pistonpump]

im in on this. i dont like the logs with all the workout numbers anyway. pics are good. i think you are around 15% honestly but no offense bro. This sounds like alot of fun, i wish i had the funds to pick up some gear....damn! oh well ill just go thru my oral stash for now

I used helios for a lil bit and i was getting dry joints and weird sensations, kinda like piercing feelings so i laid off of it. Most guys say its better used when you are already single digit bf% so i decided ill hold off. The price i got it for pre-ORD was really a no brainer. I have a thread on the board on Helios but it will be a lil hard to find because the search feature is now Google, which sucks. Ill dig it up.

 

[pistonpump]

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/74657-helios-anyone-try.html

 

[nosnmiveins]

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/74657-helios-anyone-try.html

thats some good info. now i gotta come up with some greeeeen

 

[pistonpump]

there is a reason i dont care for stims while im on cycle.

first there is the overall bp raising problem and then there is just stress put on the heart. The AAS already puts stress on our hearts and getting bigger does as well, combined with stims.... i try not to. Thats the reason i always played with clen (oral and inj) on cycle but never stuck to it for more than a week or two. I think its better in PCT personally.

 

[hman85]

Subbed

 

[nosnmiveins]

still dont have my damn computer back yet. i completely bitched out the dumb f ucks at best buy for taking so long.

increased test/tren to 100/100 on friday. horny as f uck non stop 24/7. strength is going up nicely....weight is about +8lbs . i was realllllly looking for some better fatloss properties in tren but im not seeing much yet. helios on the way soon.

deadlift 455lbs x 2 reps ~~~ didnt feel like hurting myself and getting a couple more reps.

shoulder shrugs 585lbs x 6 reps.........hell yeah! traps are looking massive.

overall im just feeling like a complete beast in the gym...no other way to describe it

 

[UnrealMachine]

sounds awesome Nos. Hope you get your computer back soon. I also hope you get some fatloss from tren kicking in soon cuz that's really what I want the tren for lol, getting "cut" is so damn hard for my genetics.

 

[nosnmiveins]

so im not invincible

about 2 days ago i noticed a small lump under my right nip. until it goes away im running .5mg adex ED and caber .5mg 2x a week.

strength is getting awesome now. lethargy from the increased tren dose comes and goes so i occassionally have to take naps. having crazy dreams every night. when i wake up im not drowning in sweat but definitely notice that im hot and slightly sweaty. i can definitely feel a difference between 75mg eod to 100mg eod. temper is getting pretty awful though...i'll manage it though

 

[vikinginc]

I'm IN !!! .... for random updates.

Hella fun cycle you've put together. I want to burst my AAS bubble SOOOO bad, bro !

 

[nosnmiveins]

chest workout was great. ive heard tren kills ur endurance but i really think its made mine better, i can stay in the gym forever. down 2lbs, i associate this with the use of Adex/caber.

strength still on the rise . even though my numbers are nowhere near impressive...bodybuilding isnt a strength sport. well atleast i tell myself that to make myself feel better

 

[nosnmiveins]

PS, helios on the way