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AFbodybuilder

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Anyone in the military that's on the juice?

I know a couple guys that are for sure on gear and in the military. I'm in the Military and have done a few Havoc (Epi) cycles including the one I'm about to finish up here in Iraq.

I really would like to get "on" while still in, but am afraid of the reprocussions, and also the length of most test cycles would make it hard for me to hide.
 
I was in the Army for seven and a half years and I can say for certain that you cannot hide that you are pinning. A drastic increase in size very noticeable to people who have dployed with you. Every week your uniform top will have seemed to have shrunk. It also makes it very next to impossible to keep up in runs(if you run)while on test.
 
Well I know alot of people who ran PHs alot. And supposedly there as guys on test. But people knew about it and we didnt care. Im pretty sure he never got in trouble but i wouldnt risk it.
 
wait till you get out bro, u won't just get an article 15 they will probably kick you out if you get caught. The chances of yoi getting caught i would say is 1% but its not worth not getting an honorable discharge. Just use ph/ds for now
 
Yeah, probably my best bet. I appreciate all the replies. I know a few people that are in right now that have or are running various test cycles... but its hard for me to justify the cost vs. benefit, because I love being in the military.

Orals are just a pain in the ass. Thanks guys.

Edit: Also... the military has started cracking down on PH/DS... some are legal, some aren't. Even 6-OXO is banned by the Air Force!
 
joeymutz said:
wait till you get out bro, u won't just get an article 15 they will probably kick you out if you get caught. The chances of yoi getting caught i would say is 1% but its not worth not getting an honorable discharge. Just use ph/ds for now
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dunno. a decade ago that would be the case.

now that we're in iraq, i don't think its so easy that you can just pin and get out of stop loss.

either way, i wouldn't bother pinning while in. something about PCT, clomid and shooting someone is not my idea of a smart move.
 
suncloud said:
dunno. a decade ago that would be the case.

now that we're in iraq, i don't think its so easy that you can just pin and get out of stop loss.

either way, i wouldn't bother pinning while in. something about PCT, clomid and shooting someone is not my idea of a smart move.
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True but he's in the Airforce so things may be a little different.
 
I had a few friends that pinned while we were in, everyone knows about it. My best friend always had to get permission from whatever commands we were at to be allowed to wear his sleeves down in the summer when the rest of us had to roll them up. I stood at attention next to him once when the CO was giving him **** for being on steroids. But the CO didnt care, he was just laughing at him for putting in such a strange request. Good memories.
 
if ur in iraq, u could probably run a nice long cycle. i bet drugs are legal there. you wont be in the US anymore ;)
 
DT5 said:
if ur in iraq, u could probably run a nice long cycle. i bet drugs are legal there. you wont be in the US anymore ;)
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The Uniform Code of Military Justice is still enforced with service members. Sometime the laws differ from US law while overseas, but not that much. lol.
 
i know for a fact that there are alot of people in the military who run cycles.. anyone that thinks that this doesnt happen in our armed forces is kidding themselves.. it happens everywhere.. i would just think the only place u couldnt and wouldnt want to run a cycle is boot camp
 
In the Air Force which iam in to bro. They wont test you unless they suspect you taking them. The test is to expensive. They just test for the normal common drugs.
 
bigzach1234 said:
i know for a fact that there are alot of people in the military who run cycles.. anyone that thinks that this doesnt happen in our armed forces is kidding themselves.. it happens everywhere.. i would just think the only place u couldnt and wouldnt want to run a cycle is boot camp
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Oh yeah, it def happens a lot. Id say fairly similar ratio as to men that are not in the service of the same age. With the military presence in san diego, its common to go across the border and buy gear down there.
 
AFbodybuilder said:
Yeah, probably my best bet. I appreciate all the replies. I know a few people that are in right now that have or are running various test cycles... but its hard for me to justify the cost vs. benefit, because I love being in the military.

Orals are just a pain in the ass. Thanks guys.

Edit: Also... the military has started cracking down on PH/DS... some are legal, some aren't. Even 6-OXO is banned by the Air Force!
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6-OXO? Really? They sell it on Bolling AFB at the GNC.
 
CopyCat said:
6-OXO? Really? They sell it on Bolling AFB at the GNC.
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Really? Are you sure it wasn't 11-OXO? I know GNC still carries that on base. The Health and Wellness Center on your base should have an updated list of banned substances and it even goes into such depth as the specific "17a-" compounds and variations that are banned.

To Mindgame - I know all the specifics as far as when they will test you... but I know some people who I'm 100% sure are pinning and I want to know how they are getting away with it.
 
well if they are pining and getting away with it. Its prolly because people dont know or the people who do know or who suspect dont really care. I didnt 6-oxo was on the banned list. Everytime i go to the HAWK to ask for the list they tell me there is none and that as long its not steroids or PHs then i should be in the clear. lol
 
Your HAWC is definitely lying to you... there is a list. I'd have to do some digging, but I bet I could find a copy for you, or a link to where you could download it.
 
Been on gear 8 years....been in the military 7.

It hurts your cardio...be prepared.

Dont be stupid and bring pins with you if you are around others. Keep you stuff secure and away from ANYONE.

Keep a lot of protein and creatine with your stuff. Many think this stuff works like gear.

Stay away from long acting stuff in case you get tested. Equipose,deca and tren stay in your system a long time.

SHUT UP AND NEVER TELL ANYONE.

Make sure your uniforms are baggy.

Just do not walk around with a tank top around those you think might look for it. Keep a low profile.

They need prob. cause to test you specifically for steroids, due to the cost. Prob cause under UCMJ is not you getting bigger or rumors, it is them hearing you talk about it or finding gear. Even with UCMJ you have some rights...few but they are there.

I have been tested for narcotics numerous times....always negative.

Just do not draw attention to yourself. It is very wide spread, trust me.
 
thats true. be safe man

AFbodybuilder: Im just going on what my HAWK told me. I figured there was a list but i think they were lazy to just get it to me. I went there twice. The first time they said they were going to email me. Then the second time thats what they told me. If you can find me the list then that would be helpful
 
i know for a fact that the normal test doesnt test for steroids but does the normal test show if your testosterone levels are raised?
 
RoninWolf2008 said:
i know for a fact that the normal test doesnt test for steroids but does the normal test show if your testosterone levels are raised?
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They can test for a skewed EPITEST/TEST Ratio.

I prefer test because even the long actors are usually not going to be detectable as long as equi/tren/deca.

The can now test for test esters btw. Best bet...short acting stuff if you inject.....they tend to be easier on the cardio for ya....tren made running rough.
 
when i was in iraq their was a guy who went to my gym who was on something but he would never tell us what it was. it was soo obvious but no one cared. their was also a guy in my company that looked like he had been on something for years but no one ever said a thing.
 
there are def. users in the military.

ph/otc ones and guys that do long injectable cycles.

if i were you i would stick to orals and transdermals. Never order gear either. I would not pin, its too much of a risk with the needles and stuff.

Mitosis, good post man.

AFbodybuilder, what is your AFSC just curious
I was a 2A332, F16 avionics...
 
RoninWolf2008 said:
Is this test a part of the regular urinyalsis?
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No....well....I have read...

1 in 2000 samples is randomly sampled for gear. I find this to be....

Unlikely.

They will only test for gear if they suspect you through probable cause.

It is expensive and only two places(maybe a few more now) do the testing. It was the IOC testing they were using and they had places in California and Georgia I believe....dont hold me to that.

Remember...

Its expensive.

There a billion compunds to test for and that makes it hard to catch.

It does not really effect troop readiness. So they do not really give a crap.

Just be smart, quiet and stick with short actors or OTC stuff.
 
Piston, I'm a 3C... Combat Comm.

Thanks, Mitosis. Your answer was really what I was looking for.

It took a lot for me to even find out that a good friend of mine (military also) was pinning.
 
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