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test e + m drol cycle maybe??

land0204

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ok ive being doing research for about a good 4 or 5 months now on everything that im gonna use in my cycle. I have the test e, m drol, liquid nolva, proviron, cycle supprt, and liv 52. i also have a few other supps to maintain low bp and chol a bit. my question is has anyone ran a test e cycle for 10-12 weeks at 250-300 mg a week while on m drol or (superdrol). I have searched around but i cant find a certain blog with the gains and info that they got from that cycle. im not asking for help on my cycle im just wondering if anyone ever done this. thanks for help guys. btw im 6"0 185 looking for maybe 225-230. :thumbsup:
 
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ok so not anyone had any input which is cool but if no one had used this cycle before or anyone that viewed didnt use it, do u think its a good starting cycle for a beginner. this is my first cycle so i wanna gain as much as possible from this and do it wisley and do it right. no f*****g around for me. so any suggestions to this cycle. i know the test is a awesome starter but what about the m drol with?
 
Hey man I am in the same situation ..I am going to use test e for the first time but all my friends who have used it are telling me to just take the test e at 500mg a week for 12 weeks and I will love it if that helps any. I am looking at the 2005 anabolic book and it is saying that a good first cycle to build mass is eq weeks 1-10 at 250mg and test e weeks 2-11 at 250mg so basically you would be taking the eq so you would get the same gains with taking less test. So if you didn’t have the Eq then take 500mg of test for 10-12 weeks should be a good cycle
 
jamesb2525 said:
Just a heads up a lot of people on AM will see your height to weight ratio and say to gain more naturally first
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yea i figured that might come into play but oddly enough im not real thin though i have been lifting for about 3 years straight and been eating fairly clean i used to be about 170 about 2 years ago so almost 20 lbs in less then 2 years natural aint that bad and when i came back from college everyone said i got bigger. im at that level now were i cant gain for **** no matter how much i eat and how hard i train so i figured id go ahead and go to the dark side for a bit lol. thanks for the info bud. :head:
 
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if you do get the eq It makes your appetite go sky rocketing so that would help to consume the calories needed to gain mass...good luck with your cycle oh and i see you are new to AM:welcome:
 
This is a great cycle, I just got done. I ran m-drol at 30mg and test e 500mg. If I could do it over, I would have done 20mg the first week, then just 10mg the rest of the 6 jump start on m-drol. I think If u keep calorie high, you will put on 25 pounds or so.
 
yea thats what i figured i would do, only thing is is that i might have to get another bottle of test which is easy for me do to having to many friends on aas lol but ive got only 1 10ml bottle of test e 250 so if i wanted to run lets say a 8 week cycle of test i would take like 350mg maybe? im not sure if my math is right i kno if i ran 500mg a week thatll only last me 5 weeks so 350 will be around 7-8. is that enough of a cycle length along with the mdrol to see pretty good gains along with of course eating clean and eating alot. i appreaciate the help fellas:thumbsup:
 
get another vial of test
 
land0204 said:
im at that level now were i cant gain for **** no matter how much i eat and how hard i train so i figured id go ahead and go to the dark side for a bit lol.
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Senor, you need a 12" double meat chicken breast sub from subway. Not steroids. Its impossible for me to believe that you cant gain weight. You are simply not eating enough.

Go train for 10 more years, 4 days a week, 52 weeks a year, then think about juice.
 
futurepilot said:
Senor, you need a 12" double meat chicken breast sub from subway. Not steroids. Its impossible for me to believe that you cant gain weight. You are simply not eating enough.

Go train for 10 more years, 4 days a week, 52 weeks a year, then think about juice.
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ha yea that would make me 32 dont think so man sorry, and i eat subway everyday since its right next door, i didnt say i couldnt gain a pound im saying im at that platou everybody hits and i jus wanna get over it quick and be done, ur complain about my weight when im almost 200 lbs, might wanna go talk to some kids on here that are 150 asking ph questions and wanting to use the needle and has no knowldge of any of it. i did about 5-6 months research and i have friends that use and used for a while and they gave me info and i set it up just right so im good to go. thanks for ur info though :thumbsup:
 
land0204 said:
i didnt say i couldnt gain a pound im saying im at that platou everybody hits and i jus wanna get over it quick and be done,

ur complain about my weight when im almost 200 lbs,
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Well good luck with trying to take a shortcut.

Almost 200 would be 199. At 185, to get too 200, it would take you approximately 1 yr of natural training. Unless your talking about gaining all bf.

the reason you got such a response is your 1st post says you want to gain 40-45lbs off of this one cycle. :nono:
 
futurepilot said:
Well good luck with trying to take a shortcut.

Almost 200 would be 199. At 185, to get too 200, it would take you approximately 1 yr of natural training. Unless your talking about gaining all bf.

the reason you got such a response is your 1st post says you want to gain 40-45lbs off of this one cycle. :nono:
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im 190 so 10 pounds off of 200, and i want to get about 220 maybe 225 so roughly 30-35 lbs. on ones first ever cycle its not rare for them to see a 25-30 lb increase not sayin its all muscle some water and fat but yea for me to say i could/want to get to 220 off this isnt a crazy idea, and since im smart about it and have done the research and what not i kno i can be happy with what i acheive. thanks futurepilot:thumbsup:
 
great thread! uncannily relevant for me. I just finished a 5 week of straight BD 50mg Winny and it went too quick. I have a 30 cc bottle of Test-E 250 that is burinin a hole in my pocket. I just started SD Clone today and I am going to do 10/10/10 and start my test E. I am a bit of a wuss on dosage though. I never take my test of 250mgs a week. Just enuff to get big and cut, no need to tag 15 lbs on.

Edit--BTW, as usual the winny added 7 lbs of lean hard gains, always does that for me
 
wow...some VERY misinformed users on this thread......research, research, research, one word of wisdom on AAS, dont half ass anything!
 
CleetusVanDam said:
wow...some VERY misinformed users on this thread......research, research, research, one word of wisdom on AAS, dont half ass anything!
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Then help them out with suggestions instead of throwing stones and making holier than thou comments, implying that you are superor to others. Some of us have done copious amounts of research, dozens of cycles over a decade and had guidance from pro's and MD's.
 
trynacut said:
Then help them out with suggestions instead of throwing stones and making holier than thou comments, implying that you are superor to others. Some of us have done copious amounts of research, dozens of cycles over a decade and had guidance from pro's and MD's.
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umm...dude he's talkin about you...your gonna run 250 mgs of test to get big and ripped? thats not any more than your body natty produces...and you just jumped onto three weeks of super after five weeks of winny and gonna start test after you super...this is the stupidest cycling i have heard of in a while...and to the op...you would have more credibility with the vets on this site if your weight didnt go up 5lbs in 4 hours...
 
^no comment that was made was holier that thou my abrasive friend, this forum has TONS and TONS of great information. Certain posters however just refuse to use the search function, listen to advice, or are willing to do anything other than what their buddy at the gym is doing. Many comments made in this thread are exemplary to that effect. You can only lead a horse to water.......
 
oh and op...what you need to understand is your final result is goning to be much better if you get big natty before you get real big using gear...but if you insist on doing this run this:
test-e 500mgs per week 1-14
eq- 500 mgs per week 1-12
mdrol- 10/20/20 1-3

16-20-pct
 
^and the EQ isnt necessary, but it is a luxury. Personally i believe that YOUR FIRST CYCLE SHOULD ALWAYS BE A TEST ONLY CYCLE, this allows you to gauge how your body responds to the most basic of compunds, and importantly how it responds to an individual compound.
 
mooch2321 i inputed my weight when i started this site then i just decided to go ahead and weigh myself and it was 190 instead of 185 since i havent weighed my self in a while so yea sorry for that screw up, wasnt intended lol. and yea i thought about just doin the test cycle only to see how i react then maybe later on down the road do a little bit bigger on or a ph to see how that works. ill have to get another vial of the test though. i appreciate all the info and i want to insure the "big dogs" on here that i have done all the research i can i acutally piss off my gf cuase for the last 5 months thats all i have been doin. and not just test and mdrol but i have read about all the big name aas just to see what does what and how much and all that plus the pct that follows and what to use and not to use, for example i spent 5 hours last night til l5 am jus reading different blogs on here and reading that people had to say so yes i am firmly aware of what i am doing and diet and all that good stuff. Thanks for all ur help, and please no hating on people on here for the ones that do, thats just not cool, not one person knows all and everyone has a question at some point in time and need info, so dont stone people that ask. better to ask then to not ever kno!!! even if its a 15 year old 140 pound kid that wants to take some ph or something lol, in that case jus tell him NO:nono:
 
mooch2321 said:
umm...dude he's talkin about you...your gonna run 250 mgs of test to get big and ripped? thats not any more than your body natty produces...and you just jumped onto three weeks of super after five weeks of winny and gonna start test after you super...this is the stupidest cycling i have heard of in a while...and to the op...you would have more credibility with the vets on this site if your weight didnt go up 5lbs in 4 hours...
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I knew his comment was about me, that's why I responded as such, suggesting that he offer good advice instead of criticizing others as if he was god. I have over 15 years of weight training and have done dozens of cycles, probably more than Mr. Knowitall himself

Maybe my cycle is stupid in your opinion, to which you are entitled, but not in mine. Opinions are like Aholes. A former champ that used to coach me was always in favor of small dose cycles to make lean gains that were easier to hold on to. For me tacking on 5-10, and bring out cross striations on my delts and quads with big vascularity is my personal goal. I don't see the need to add 15-25 lbs of muscle so that I look like a juice monkey. So you train to your goals and I will train to mine.

As to the substance of my cycle, I've always found Winny to be a tremendously anabolic hormone, and if you take your own advice and read before shooting your mouth off you will see there is a bona fide debate as to it being more anabolic than Anadrol. And I also have prior experience and advice from a pro that with proper diet manipulation, you can use test to cut up. I also see nothing with bridging the two for a few weeks with the Sdrol clone since the long chain esters take a few weeks to kick in anyway. And since I have only used real gear all my life I am really curious to see if this OTC Sdrol clone is legit or just hype.

And BTW I never said I gained five pounds in 4 hours moron! Maybe you should take your own advice and read before criticizing others.
 
CleetusVanDam said:
^no comment that was made was holier that thou my abrasive friend, this forum has TONS and TONS of great information. Certain posters however just refuse to use the search function, listen to advice, or are willing to do anything other than what their buddy at the gym is doing. Many comments made in this thread are exemplary to that effect. You can only lead a horse to water.......
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The abrasion was all yours, but I am glad you consider me a friend. I wish you no ill will but if you reflect with an open mind you will hopefully realize that calling people "misinformed" and "half assed" just because you have a diff opinion is both condescending and abrasive. BTW--I agree this site has TONS and TONS of great info. I never disputed that. There are some awesome dudes on here that really know their ****, and I have learned a ton by researching on here for days on end. So bygones be bygones, we don't have to agree. I respect your opinion that you don't agree with my cycle, I just didn't think it was necessary to fire off judgments and call people names (i.e. misinformed, half assed, etc). Peace. Im done on this thread
 
trynacut said:
I knew his comment was about me, that's why I responded as such, suggesting that he offer good advice instead of criticizing others as if he was god. I have over 15 years of weight training and have done dozens of cycles, probably more than Mr. Knowitall himself

Maybe my cycle is stupid in your opinion, to which you are entitled, but not in mine. Opinions are like Aholes. A former champ that used to coach me was always in favor of small dose cycles to make lean gains that were easier to hold on to. For me tacking on 5-10, and bring out cross striations on my delts and quads with big vascularity is my personal goal. I don't see the need to add 15-25 lbs of muscle so that I look like a juice monkey. So you train to your goals and I will train to mine.

As to the substance of my cycle, I've always found Winny to be a tremendously anabolic hormone, and if you take your own advice and read before shooting your mouth off you will see there is a bona fide debate as to it being more anabolic than Anadrol. And I also have prior experience and advice from a pro that with proper diet manipulation, you can use test to cut up. I also see nothing with bridging the two for a few weeks with the Sdrol clone since the long chain esters take a few weeks to kick in anyway. And since I have only used real gear all my life I am really curious to see if this OTC Sdrol clone is legit or just hype.

And BTW I never said I gained five pounds in 4 hours moron! Maybe you should take your own advice and read before criticizing others.
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moron...lol...if you read my post you would have seen that i was talking to the op(original poster) as his weight was 185 in the first post but 190 4 posts later...and i dont care what old pro your talking to your cycle ideas are stupid...but you go right ahead and do what you want...mabye oneday you will run into my friend darwin when your walking down the street...
 
mooch2321 said:
moron...lol...if you read my post you would have seen that i was talking to the op(original poster) as his weight was 185 in the first post but 190 4 posts later...and i dont care what old pro your talking to your cycle ideas are stupid...but you go right ahead and do what you want...mabye oneday you will run into my friend darwin when your walking down the street...
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as agian like i said in my last post i pre judged my weight before actually weighting myself so a million sorrys lol. no reason for so much hostility
 
land0204 said:
as agian like i said in my last post i pre judged my weight before actually weighting myself so a million sorrys lol. no reason for so much hostility
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yeah...bro...i have no problem with you...but coming on here trying to make some hairbrained cycle sound legit by saying you got it from a pro is dumb...and if trynacut did half the research hes been spouting about and had half the background that he says he does he would know this is a dumb cycle...
 
mooch2321 said:
yeah...bro...i have no problem with you...but coming on here trying to make some hairbrained cycle sound legit by saying you got it from a pro is dumb...and if trynacut did half the research hes been spouting about and had half the background that he says he does he would know this is a dumb cycle...
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i never said i got anything from a pro??? or were u talkin about tyrant??/:think:
 
land0204 said:
i never said i got anything from a pro??? or were u talkin about tyrant??/:think:
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im sorry man...im not being very clear...you are fine...every thing i was talking about was that other guy...i honestly think that you would benefit frowm waiting a little longer but if your not gonna i still help you out...if you have any questions or anything just pm me
 
1-12 test e 500mg a week, proviron 25-50mg everyday 1-12 2 weeks after last injection run clomid for 4 weeks and start taking ton and tons of bcaas. Keep calories high in pct, you might gain some fat, but you will keep muscle. If your really serious take clen also in pct. No need for any other cycles for now this is as basic as it gets remember, SLIN, HGH, AND AAS MIGHT BE THE MAGIC STACK OF THE PROS BUT FOR YOUNG LIFTERS LIKE US THE TRIFECTA IS KNOWLEDGE, FOOD AND CONSISTENCY..
 
Cycle over all sounds good.....I've seen MANY friends blow up 25-35 pretty solid lbs off just 250-300 cc of test a week for 10-12, especially for a first cycle.....My personal recommendation would be If possible to obtain more, get another bottle, and run @ 400-500 mg a week for 12-14 weeks, run the drol @ 10/10/10/10 or 10/10/20....keep an AI on hand and if prone to gyno also some cabergoline. Id run torm for pct @ 120/90/60/30/20...

Good luck with the cycle, If you put in the work/effort im more than sure youll be happy with the cycle. I can easily see a 30 lb weight gain.......dont life to heavy to avoid injury and to maximise hypertrophy.

edit- forgot about the proviron......I'd run the whole cycle and half way through PCT.....25-50 mg a day, more if you feel it is necessary and if its your only AI.
 
bbkhan87 said:
1-12 test e 500mg a week, proviron 25-50mg everyday 1-12 2 weeks after last injection run clomid for 4 weeks and start taking ton and tons of bcaas. Keep calories high in pct, you might gain some fat, but you will keep muscle. If your really serious take clen also in pct. No need for any other cycles for now this is as basic as it gets remember, SLIN, HGH, AND AAS MIGHT BE THE MAGIC STACK OF THE PROS BUT FOR YOUNG LIFTERS LIKE US THE TRIFECTA IS KNOWLEDGE, FOOD AND CONSISTENCY..
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wow...i am very impressed with this statement...reps bro
 
yea i love all the info im getting guys i really appreciate it. for pct i got liquid nolva and no clomid which is the same in many ways so ill be ok with out the clomid. not to fimilar with caborgoline so ill do so research on that one.
 
why throw in some toxic prohormone, when you can get probably the same gains on something WAY less toxic, like Test E? i dont see the point of ever using a prohormone, when you have access to real ****, but thats just me. test e 500mg for 10-12 weeks, PCT, DONE.
 
yea the test is go i was just askin how the m drol would benifit if any at all. i dont really like the reviews of mdrol since it very toxic and ya the liver bounces back pretty good and stable but still test is a whole lot safer and better gains, i was just throwin that in to see some quik results since test normally wont show till 2.5-3 weeks in but ill just stick with test and forget the m drol. dt5 made a good point at that if u can get the real stuff then stick to that lol, but yea test 500mg every week for 10-12 weeks prolly more of 12 then 10, if gyno then take nolva and start on proviron but if no signs hold off on proviron and then pct use liquid nolva then done. :head:
 
land0204 said:
yea the test is go i was just askin how the m drol would benifit if any at all. i dont really like the reviews of mdrol since it very toxic and ya the liver bounces back pretty good and stable but still test is a whole lot safer and better gains, i was just throwin that in to see some quik results since test normally wont show till 2.5-3 weeks in but ill just stick with test and forget the m drol. dt5 made a good point at that if u can get the real stuff then stick to that lol, but yea test 500mg every week for 10-12 weeks prolly more of 12 then 10, if gyno then take nolva and start on proviron but if no signs hold off on proviron and then pct use liquid nolva then done. :head:
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hcg is a great compound to use as well, so PCT will be a breeze if you used HCG while on. I would look into it.
 
mooch2321 said:
with steroids 1+2=10...stacking orals with your test...or other injectables can be very synergystic....
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hey mooch ive been thinkin for that past few days before i start anything and ive been reading up on pulsing m drol with test/ any other injectible. what do u think about that if i did want to take the mdrol with the test. say take it on work out days like mon/tues and thurs/fri at like 10mg for the first week then up to 20mg for like weeks 2,3,4. i was just thinking and maybe u can help out with that. thanks buddy. landon
 
land0204 said:
hey mooch ive been thinkin for that past few days before i start anything and ive been reading up on pulsing m drol with test/ any other injectible. what do u think about that if i did want to take the mdrol with the test. say take it on work out days like mon/tues and thurs/fri at like 10mg for the first week then up to 20mg for like weeks 2,3,4. i was just thinking and maybe u can help out with that. thanks buddy. landon
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no reason to pulse with the test...run it 10/10/20 to kickstart...id think about dhea for the lethargy too
 
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