P-Slin: Cast away your empty carbs – check this out!

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Recently I’ve been cranking out my 950W ‘Vegetable Destroyer’ Mark IV Juicer – it’s all been part of my summer holiday ‘harm minimization strategy’ :thumbsup:

Drinking days are over – it’s back to dedicated training, :head:and there are some vegetable combos that have some great health benefits – and why not force feed them into your muscles when:

1)you’re body is in a receptive state for glycogen replacement post WO
2)you have ready access to a powerfull nutrient partitioner such as P-Slin

This protocol is divided into two parts - you'll see why.

The chief component of the Stage 1 concoction is beetroot (beets in the US) – please see the end of this post for some interesting background information. Oral steroid users should take note of it’s liver and blood cleansing abilities.

Post workout, on arriving home (say 20min) I take 1/2 tsp of bulk PSlin (800mg), then throw the following through the juicer:

2 med beets – stalks and all
2 med carrots
1 green apple
1 ‘piece of ginger


Now, Im not sure what the type of simples carbs are – surely the apple has fructose in it. Note the following macro breakdown:

PRO CHO FAT CAL
simple complex Total

beets 1 6 2 8 0 35
beets 1 6 2 8 0 35
carrots 1 3 3 6 0 25
carrots 1 3 3 6 0 25
apple 0 13 4 17 0 65
ginger 0 0 2 2 0 9

4 31 16 47 0 194


I would expect much of the complex CHO to remain in the pulp, so overall we have 31g of simple CHO being consumed PLUS an avalanche of minerals, vitamins and antioxidants (VMA)

Note: I experience quite a rush from stage 1 recipe - and it tastes okay :thumbsup:

Q: “So this is a low level of CHO to consume with such a high dosage PSlin – and where’s the protein?”

A: Patience! It is coming. I wasn’t keen on throwing in protein powder into the mix – not quite sure how it would react or taste with the juice, so….

Wait approximately 30min – you shouldn’t get hypo within this period. …Then break out the Blender for mixing up Stage 2:

20g whey
10g casein
250ml low-fat soy milk
3/4 cup oats
½ cup frozen blue berries


PRO CHO FAT CAL
simple complex Total
Blueberries (1/2cup) 1 7 3 10 1 16
Whey 20 1 1 1 90
Casein 10 1 1 1 40
LowFat Soy Milk (1 cup) 9 5 3 12 2 102
Oats (3/4) cup) 8 0 42 42 4 230

47 13 48 65 9 478

So by now the initial liquid meal has mostly digested and the PSlin should now be fully activated.

Stage 2 concoction is a semi liquid meal - you’re getting your protein and complex CHO delivered both immediately and over an extended period of time.

Edit: Note that original skim milk has been replaced by soy. This replaces a lactose source of CHO, and has a whey/casein-derived PRO source providing a PRO 'complex' to the meal.

Also note the Oats content has been increased slightly

Taste’s good? You better believe it!:thumbsup:

Summary Macro Breakdown:

PRO 51 (see chart for source breakdown)
CHO(S) 44
CHO(C) 48 (excluding vege)
CHO (T) 96
FATS 9

CAL 672 (but probably less due to data from whole veg not juice).

Calorific-wise, it doesn't break the bank - you could throw in a few whole eggs to bump up the fat levels.

Other ideas for addition would be some celery, spinich or silverbeet leaves into Stage 1. Also some spirulina in either stage concoction would be a bonus :thumbsup:


Other Information:

After a month of intra WO carbs (Monsta Shake) I am reverting back to my fasted workouts - I loved the effect, but would rather limit using empty CHOs.

Personally it's all about whole foods - that's the beauty of products such as AP and PSLin and I want to be pumping in as much "VMA" into my body as possible to achieve maximum results :thumbsup:

If the workout is mid day, then I would have had a small AP meal (20-20-0) at 0600, so essentially it is still fasted. Otherwise a true fasted state (BCAAs/Leucine pre/intraWO)

Current preWO stack is 2 ReCreate + 1 Jacked - that's a sweet thermo anti-catabolic stack IMO. I am off Prime for a few months, but some Super Saponins would be a nice addition.

Oh, and make sure you pound back the water throughout the day - this can make you fairly thirsty.

Critque and Comments welcome and encouraged :thumbsup:

Beetroot facts

The roots and leaves of beetroot have medicinal uses. Consuming beetroot increases the level of antioxidants in the liver. Cholesterol levels also fall, decreasing the risk for many cardiovascular diseases.

Beet juice powder is a nutrient-rich food that is known to improve general circulation by inhibiting congestion of the vascular system. Beet Juice Powder is a natural blood cleanser, which greatly benefits the liver and entire body.

Beetroot protects from heart disease, birth-related short-comings and cancers such as colon cancer.

Research published in the American Heart Association journal Hypertension on the 4th February 2008 showed that drinking 500ml of beetroot juice a day can help reduce blood pressure levels. Researchers saw a reduction in blood pressure in volunteers after just 1 hour of drinking 500ml of beetroot juice. The reduction was more pronounced after 3 to 4 hours and up till 24 hours after drinking the juice.

It is very useful in fighting anemia as it contains potassium, phosphorus, calcium, sulfur, iodine, copper, carbohydrates, protein, fat, vitamin B1, B2, B6, niacin and vitamin P.

Beet gets rid of dandruff. :lol: By boiling the top and root of the beet in water and later using the water on the scalp every night, a significant difference can often be seen. White beets work even better.

Beet juice is also known to be very useful to fight arteriosclerosis by keeping the blood vessels and the arterial system in sound condition.

You can fight arthritis by making a green juice from any leafy vegetable, mixed in equal proportion with carrot, celery and beet juice. The alkaline content in the raw juices dissolves the deposits accumulated around the joints and other tissues.
 
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apologies for the shocking tables: check these out:
 

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yeah man I feel ya!! I have tried both anabolic pump, and p-slin, with several different sources of carbs. I never got anything out of them, except a gut.
 
yeah man I feel ya!! I have tried both anabolic pump, and p-slin, with several different sources of carbs. I never got anything out of them, except a gut.

no dude, you don't feel me at all. I respond well to P-Slin :thumbsup: ...but don't feel bad about it :lol:
 
yeah man I feel ya!! I have tried both anabolic pump, and p-slin, with several different sources of carbs. I never got anything out of them, except a gut.

I love Jakellpet's sarcasm! If you do not read his threads you may not get him.

Heck, if PSlin changed LUCK it would be sold out by now, at least it helps with carbs!:food:
 
My mom buys EVERYTHING she sees at the county fair . . . a wagon to pull the things she buys, a $400 juicer, a soda machine . . .

My nephew popped in the video for the juicer, he told grandma all the things you can make with it . . . he was only 3 yrs old, so he was quite excited! I may have to acquire her juicer since it only takes up counter space and is used once a year . . . maybe.
 
Homemade vegetable juice is the key! It's what I've been doing to help ditch my body fat. Nice post :)
 
What happens if you consume large doses of fiber with p-slin?

lets say you added flaxseeds into the blender.

would this prolong the effect?or hinder it?
 
Awesome, awesome thread, N! Good job! :cheers:
 
After some consultations with leading P-Slin experts, there will be some slight adjustments to the recipe.

The reason being that lactose as a CHO source needs to be minimised, therefore I have replaced it with reduced fat soy milk. This also broadens the spectrum of PRO sources.

The oats content has also been increased to provide a more balanced meal in terms of CHO type.

Edit: Recipe and tables have been updated


Now then, bask in the glory that is the Juicer:
 

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What happens if you consume large doses of fiber with p-slin?

lets say you added flaxseeds into the blender.

would this prolong the effect?or hinder it?

Not quite sure - the oats has a significant portion of fibre in it, and is advocated as a preferred CHO source for PSlin.
 
After some consultations with some leading P-Slin experts, there will be some slight adjustments to the recipe.

Until then, bask in the glory that is the Juicer:

I have the same juicer I think, except with a black base. I got it for christmas 2 years ago and I've used it probably twice. That thing is sick, it has some crazy power. It sounds like a turbocharger when it starts up.

Now I finally have some good use for it!!!!!
 
Now then, bask in the glory that is the Juicer:

Wow, I think I shed a tear when I felt a sudden rush of warm light from the magnificent Juicer... :)

But seriously, this sounds simple and good. I have lots of yellow gold, I wonder if it will work... I don't have a juicer - I'll probably go to Target and get a cheap one just to get in the habit and see if I get some good results.


VMA!
:bb3:
 
Wow, I think I shed a tear when I felt a sudden rush of warm light from the magnificent Juicer... :)

Now you know how I feel every morning as I walk into my kitchen :D

But seriously, this sounds simple and good. I have lots of yellow gold, I wonder if it will work... I don't have a juicer - I'll probably go to Target and get a cheap one just to get in the habit and see if I get some good results.


VMA!
:bb3:

Re: Target - Are you an Aussie? They're not too expensive if you hunt around - try ebay.

I'm not sure on the Yellow Gold - wouldn't hurt to try - I would pm Strategic Move or one of the other reps to see what they think :thumbsup:
 
so fruits and p-slin go well together?

it might be easier for me to eat the carrot, and fruits, and then take a caps p-slin with water.
 
so fruits and p-slin go well together?

it might be easier for me to eat the carrot, and fruits, and then take a caps p-slin with water.

Fruit? Not necessarily - PSlin is not optimised using fructose or lactose as CHO sources - that is why the stage 1 shake uses mainly vegetable juices which generally are higher in sucrose and glucose and correspondantly low in fructose such as beets and carrots (see tables below)

Grapes would be a good addition due to their high overall glucose/sucrose and low fructose content.

Stage 2 is more about low glycemic load CHO and PRO. You will note that blueberries form a small CHO content and are included for their antioxidants. Also note with stage 2 update I have replaced the skim milk with soy milk to remove the lactose.

Have a look at the attached pdf which gives an idea of the sugar content and breakdown of various fruits and vegetables :thumbsup:
 

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Fruit? Not necessarily - PSlin is not optimised using fructose or lactose as CHO sources - that is why the stage 1 shake uses mainly vegetable juices which generally are higher in sucrose and glucose and correspondantly low in fructose such as beets and carrots (see tables below)

Grapes would be a good addition due to their high overall glucose/sucrose and low fructose content.

Stage 2 is more about low glycemic load CHO and PRO. You will note that blueberries form a small CHO content and are included for their antioxidants. Also note with stage 2 update I have replaced the skim milk with soy milk to remove the lactose.

Have a look at the attached pdf which gives an idea of the sugar content and breakdown of various fruits and vegetables :thumbsup:

wow this is really cool! This would be an amazing fat loss stack and so freaken HEALTHY!

I owe you for aweing me..:pizza:
 
wow this is really cool! This would be an amazing fat loss stack and so freaken HEALTHY!

I owe you for aweing me..:pizza:

My friend has just graduated from the London School of Natural Medicine - amongst using me as a frikken pin cushion she's been giving me some dietary tips.

...what started off as a "party harm minimisation protocol" over Xmas has been built into a recomp or cut protocol (dependant on what your goals are).

I am tapering my CHO heavily - nothing aside salad veges after 3pm - which is a wholemeal sandwich (~25g CHO).

Therefore in this scenario bulk PSlin only needs to be dosed once IMO. 400mg is a little light on, 800mg maybe a little excessive - it leaves me starving like a stray dog!

600mg is the sweet spot for me (which Im still eyeballing when I measure it) which highlights the versatility of having bulk powders :thumbsup:
 
wow this is really cool! This would be an amazing fat loss stack and so freaken HEALTHY!

I owe you for aweing me..:pizza:

If you want to see some results.... All through December my weight was static (I weight myself after workouts for continuity)

After 14 days results as follows:

KG........ LB........ Change
98.0...... 215.6..... 3.2
94.8...... 208.6 ..... 7.0

...and remember this is a recomp diet...

Daily averages:

PRO 300
CHO 150
FAT 130

Hell yeah!:head:
 
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