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I need a caffiene free supp that is going to fill me with rage!!!!! please

surprising that no one has mentioned this yet. BLUE UP, the stim free version, has some nice feedback. you can get some feedback for it in volcoms log, but youll have to do some MAJOR search cuz its in the middle of his 50+page log haha.

but i know there are others who enjoy it. actually blue gene is great for focus and energy too, and it contains no stims. pure cellular energy.
 
i might run testabolan v2 with blue up........4 blue up/day with testabolan v2 recommended dose.......ideas?
 
rolandajoint said:
surprising that no one has mentioned this yet. BLUE UP, the stim free version, has some nice feedback. you can get some feedback for it in volcoms log, but youll have to do some MAJOR search cuz its in the middle of his 50+page log haha.

but i know there are others who enjoy it. actually blue gene is great for focus and energy too, and it contains no stims. pure cellular energy.
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I have thought about that. Blue Up seems like a great value too.
 
planetfuzz said:
I have thought about that. Blue Up seems like a great value too.
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hell yeah. 22 bucks for a 30 day supply? cant beat that. im possibly looking into a blue my genes up stack for the tail end of my bulk. blue gene just seems extremely effective for a hypertrophy routine because you have increased endurance, increased recovery between sets, and laser like focus, meaning a way better pump. and the test/libido boosting properties of both are of extreme interest to me, as they should be for ANY guy haha
 
yah i just got back from a work out, it my first day on my new stack.....i did Meth, cocaine, and ecstasy.....i ripped some guy off the treadmill though..i dont know why...?
 
Yeah, but talk about getting your moneys worth. And the results are imediate and possibly life changing.
 
Rage is all in your head buddy..
A supp would only increase the chance of it.
It's stuff in your life that triggers it.
Not some supplement.
 
wrasslin116 said:
Rage is all in your head buddy..
A supp would only increase the chance of it.
It's stuff in your life that triggers it.
Not some supplement.
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Yea man... unless you are down to f*ck with fluoxymesterone or methyl trenbalone its all in your dome. You just gotta get sick with it upstairs.
 
personally, i have rage issues.......it was a problem as a kid in high school, the stupidest sh*t would set me off, i would flip out, and then i would be looking at a kid that i f*cked up...i guess i freak out and dont remember it, any way its very useful if you put it in the right situation, and that my friends is what got me into bodybuilding, a good therapy for some one like me.....but yah, did people ever pick on you as a kid?? did any one talk sh8t to you?? were you beat up as a kid?? just stuff like that, some times if you think of them during a workout you get pissed and you wanna wreak the weights....i know this sounds weird, but im goin by what helps me....



any way, today i cut the heroin from my stack, and i doubled the coke and the right side of my face is numb.......still......i dont know whats happening?? great workout though, the only thing is today i threw a 45 pound dumbbell at some ones head......yah.........no more double dosing (jk)
 
wrasslin116 said:
Rage is all in your head buddy..
A supp would only increase the chance of it.
It's stuff in your life that triggers it.
Not some supplement.
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Yeah stuff in your life does trigger it but I know when I took 17-hd it did something. My workouts were more intense and I was horny as balls.
 
Yeah like I said it increased the chances of you getting like that.
It was still all in your head..
This brings up 'roid rage' there is no such thing.
It's all in your head.
It's you controlling and deciding if your going to get mad or not.
NOTHING is going to MAKE you be like that.
You have to have control of what goes on with you.
If your set on a supp then go waste your $ on something you don't need.
Good luck in whichever you do.
 
wrasslin116 said:
Yeah like I said it increased the chances of you getting like that.
It was still all in your head..
This brings up 'roid rage' there is no such thing.
It's all in your head.
It's you controlling and deciding if your going to get mad or not.
NOTHING is going to MAKE you be like that.
You have to have control of what goes on with you.
If your set on a supp then go waste your $ on something you don't need.
Good luck in whichever you do.
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It wasn't all in my head. I know that for a fact. Different stuff works for different people. Even if it's a complete placebo effect then that 30 dollars is worth it for me. I'd be getting my money's worth. That's what matters.
 
planetfuzz said:
It wasn't all in my head. I know that for a fact. Different stuff works for different people. Even if it's a complete placebo effect then that 30 dollars is worth it for me. I'd be getting my money's worth. That's what matters.
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This is the last time I will try and help you.
It was in your head.
Yes it did something to you.
Nothing that you could not do on your own.
No offense, but if you NEED something to do this you are obviously very weak minded.
Again, no offense.
Now I'm done.
 
wrasslin116 said:
This is the last time I will try and help you.
It was in your head.
Yes it did something to you.
Nothing that you could not do on your own.
No offense, but if you NEED something to do this you are obviously very weak minded.
Again, no offense.
Now I'm done.
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I don't get mad easily. I would consider that a good thing. If I want to spend 30 dollars on a supplement that you don't think works what is it to you? If a supplement does increase testosterone I don't see why added aggressiveness would not be possible.

Sure,I could do it on my own but if I need a little help getting there. Big deal. Lots of people take melatonin to help them sleep. Could they fall asleep without it? Sure,but it helps them. I don't like taking caffeine pre workout but lots of people do. Does that mean everybody who takes a supplement with caffeine in it pre workout is weak minded? I mean...they could get hyped up and alert without that caffeine right? It helps.
 
yah the only mind altering stuff that will give you rage is drugs (thus the meth,coke, and E jokes above)...now im NOT saying to do drugs! lol

i would think far back to something that really pissed you off dude, and bring it out and f*ck the weight up......i dont believe in weak minds, I.E. you can make any one a marine, you just have to mess with them alot so they get a attitude..........increasing testosterone will give you a increase in aggressiveness ....i dont know how fare you want to go with this stuff........
 
i dont know if thats what he was getting at dude, i think he was saying the product alone didnt do much, and i agree things that raise test. also make you more "aggressive" but i would look into stuff a little more effective dude, something with not so many mixed reviews.......dermacrine?? (pending on age....ect)
 
planetfuzz said:
I don't get mad easily. I would consider that a good thing. If I want to spend 30 dollars on a supplement that you don't think works what is it to you? If a supplement does increase testosterone I don't see why added aggressiveness would not be possible.

Sure,I could do it on my own but if I need a little help getting there. Big deal. Lots of people take melatonin to help them sleep. Could they fall asleep without it? Sure,but it helps them. I don't like taking caffeine pre workout but lots of people do. Does that mean everybody who takes a supplement with caffeine in it pre workout is weak minded? I mean...they could get hyped up and alert without that caffeine right? It helps.
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If you want to waste your money it's fine.
If that's what your set on good for you.
I'm not trying to be a ****.
I'm trying to help educate you and help you save your money for much better things.
But like I said earlier.. good luck with whichever you choose.
 
wrasslin116 said:
If you want to waste your money it's fine.
If that's what your set on good for you.
I'm not trying to be a ****.
I'm trying to help educate you and help you save your money for much better things.
But like I said earlier.. good luck with whichever you choose.
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I know what you mean. thanks

just93 said:
planetfuzz, have you looked into any test boosters?
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That is what I was originally referring to. Just something like blue-up.
 
blue-up will do, cheap and effective, lots of blood tests to prove it as well, and if you want you can throw an AI like 6-oxo in just for the extra boost
im talking the bulk 6-oxo from NP, not the expensive, fancy bottled stuff from ergopharm
 
wrasslin116 said:
This is the last time I will try and help you.
It was in your head.
Yes it did something to you.
Nothing that you could not do on your own.
No offense, but if you NEED something to do this you are obviously very weak minded.
Again, no offense.
Now I'm done.
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Wrasslin, you are very smart, but I think because of your age, you are over stepping your bounds. Trust me, AAS can make you plenty amped up and quick to anger. It is all controllable in most cases, but some AAS and even some pro hormones will really get you jacked as far as feeling like you can tear weights in two.
 
Supplements that make you feel energetic are real. Rage is an emotion. Combine the two, and you have great workouts. I handle product liability and auto claims for a living. My most intense workouts are on days after dealing with pissed of people and skeezy attorney's.

Anyway, I would suggest bulk chocamine, green tea, sulbutiamine, and geranium oil if you have a capping kit. The caffeine content is minimal caffeine if you mix it appropriately, you should get a solid 30-50 mg of geranium oil per cap.
 
GMG760 said:
Wrasslin, you are very smart, but I think because of your age, you are over stepping your bounds. Trust me, AAS can make you plenty amped up and quick to anger. It is all controllable in most cases, but some AAS and even some pro hormones will really get you jacked as far as feeling like you can tear weights in two.
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You took the words right out of my mouth.
 
Yea, let him say that 10 years from now when his Test is dropping and he feels the effects of some supplements more. At his age hes right, its in his head...and all through his body. Most of us can relate to that. And the mind is a huge factor in what we accomplish. No supplement wil make you stong without a stong mind.
 
Brother said:
Yea, let him say that 10 years from now when his Test is dropping and he feels the effects of some supplements more. At his age hes right, its in his head...and all through his body. Most of us can relate to that. And the mind is a huge factor in what we accomplish. No supplement wil make you stong without a stong mind.
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Ok then explain to me why I learned this from my 64 year old dad.
He gets the same intensity and drive as me without ANY supplement.
Now tell me age makes a difference buddy.
It's all in your head and that's how he does it, and how I do it.
If you arn't that strong minded then get a supp.
No offense.
 
GMG760 said:
Wrasslin, you are very smart, but I think because of your age, you are over stepping your bounds. Trust me, AAS can make you plenty amped up and quick to anger. It is all controllable in most cases, but some AAS and even some pro hormones will really get you jacked as far as feeling like you can tear weights in two.
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Thank's for the compliment.
But age does not matter.
And yes, they will make you feel that way.
They up the hormones that cause that.
Which is why only the strong minded should use them (including all the other factors of course)
If you can't control your emotions you should stay away from them.
 
wrasslin116 said:
Thank's for the compliment.
But age does not matter.
And yes, they will make you feel that way.
They up the hormones that cause that.
Which is why only the strong minded should use them (including all the other factors of course)
If you can't control your emotions you should stay away from them.
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I think what he meant about age was the fact that your test levels are really naturally high right now. If you ran a steroid, it would be stupid, because your body can naturally do what steroids are meant for at this point in time. In your teens, if you eat and lift hard, you grow big. When you are 35+, it might take a little more as test levels drop. Not to say that old guys can't be plenty intense, I know some old dudes who straight scare the crap out of me with the weights they lift... but if one was to run Test at 17 and compare their results/how they felt with a 35 year old... the 35 year old would probably have something much different to say about the difference in how he feels.
 
GMG760 said:
I think what he meant about age was the fact that your test levels are really naturally high right now. If you ran a steroid, it would be stupid, because your body can naturally do what steroids are meant for at this point in time. In your teens, if you eat and lift hard, you grow big. When you are 35+, it might take a little more as test levels drop. Not to say that old guys can't be plenty intense, I know some old dudes who straight scare the crap out of me with the weights they lift... but if one was to run Test at 17 and compare their results/how they felt with a 35 year old... the 35 year old would probably have something much different to say about the difference in how he feels.
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Very true..
I thought this guy was talking about getting something for rage/intensity not rage/intensity to equal more mass and strength.
In that case I'd say go for a supp.
 
wrasslin116 said:
Very true..
I thought this guy was talking about getting something for rage/intensity not rage/intensity to equal more mass and strength.
In that case I'd say go for a supp.
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Well in reality he wasn't talking about PH or juice, I was just trying to make the point that things CAN in fact make you amped up/snap pretty hard. They are not what he is looking for though.

Do you really not take any supplements?
 
GMG760 said:
Well in reality he wasn't talking about PH or juice, I was just trying to make the point that things CAN in fact make you amped up/snap pretty hard. They are not what he is looking for though.

Do you really not take any supplements?
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I just stick with the basics no need for the fancy stuff.
Whey
WMS
Fish Oil
Multi
 
First off, there is no right or wrong here with using stims to pound the weight or not to use stims. I did not need them until I was 40(50 now). Whatever floats your boat and gets you in there hammering,then more power to you. It's another case of the ends justifying the means...
 
futurepilot said:
With all due respect, you sound like an asshole.
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I understand you are not trying to come across that way but that is how it seems. As if only "strong minded" people are able to workout without the help of supplements. A pre-workout supp in a way makes my workouts more enjoyable. It's easier to do something that is enjoyable and more fun.
 
planetfuzz said:
I understand you are not trying to come across that way but that is how it seems. As if only "strong minded" people are able to workout without the help of supplements. A pre-workout supp in a way makes my workouts more enjoyable. It's easier to do something that is enjoyable and more fun.
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Of course they do.
I took it that you needed something to get you pumped to hit the weights.
Either way I think it's a waste of money.
But it's your choice and if it helps you that much, go for it I'm not here to judge you I'm just giving you my 2 cents.
 
Hell, unless someone is dangling a college scholarship,pro contract, or supplement sponsorship in front of you...it's all just mental masterbation. Spend your money however it makes you happy!!
 
AZMIDLYF said:
Hell, unless someone is dangling a college scholarship,pro contract, or supplement sponsorship in front of you...it's all just mental masterbation. Spend your money however it makes you happy!!
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Man a supplement sponsorship would be the illest. This next month is gonna be like that for me... then my world is probably gonna come crashing back down when I run out of free supps. LOL!
 
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