GMG760 is entering an Anadrualic State (sponsored log)

Subadubdubbed, should be interesting buddy, enjoyed our last log, hopefully this will be just as classy, Russian
 
Craigmatthew said:
Thumb under the bar has always made me nervous, I think I will always be a 'gripper'. :)
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Dude, I thought the exact same thing until my press went up like 60 lbs instantly. It is just better for MY body.
 
I was just using the 240 as a reference number. But in general I think most BB numbers out weigh the DB numbers. And G, I can not even lift a BB (bench/military) without my thumbs on the same side as my other fingers. It puts the wrist in a much better position to just push the weight.
 
dude, I couldn't agree more. my BB plateau is gone.
 
AZMIDLYF said:
I was just using the 240 as a reference number. But in general I think most BB numbers out weigh the DB numbers. And G, I can not even lift a BB (bench/military) without my thumbs on the same side as my other fingers. It puts the wrist in a much better position to just push the weight.
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Oh yeah, no doubt most individuals that train have higher BB numbers than DB's.. I'm just a rare exception.
 
grila jujitsu said:
how much of your strength gains do you attribute to your grip change?
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compared to the Mdrol?

I am not really sure. Probably nothing in the 1-2 rep range, I can usually muscle ONE out regardless of the grip... but the 8-10 rep range, probably 30-40 lbs very quickly. I mean, granted I was on Mdrol, but it just feels a lot easier to move when I grip it like that.
 
My DB weight isnt close to my bench, I just started back on DB's about 2 months ago.. My last set is 70's for about 4-5..

I use the 12-10-8-6-4 ratio...I can bench 225 But im not putting up no 110 DBs Someone would have to call 911! Im sure I'll move up, But everyone is right , Like GMG said , I think you said it, about having them handed to you, and with that saves on allot of energy, I expell allot of my energey on that first initial kick up and push..
 
GMG760 said:
So your thumb goes back towards the rest of your fingers right? That's what I am doing at least. I no longer "grip the bar with my thumb going the opposite way of the bar.
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yuppp...and my wrists are almost flat, in a way, if I put my thumbs all the way around it I feel like my shoulders and tri's due most of the lift :nono:
 
Yo Gmoney, so you finally rocked that mdrol run, huh? You love it or what? Sorry I missed the log. 201 is fcukin' HUGE, dude.
 
ThisGuy2 said:
Yo Gmoney, so you finally rocked that mdrol run, huh? You love it or what? Sorry I missed the log. 201 is fcukin' HUGE, dude.
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Yep dawgie, I ran 10/20/20. Good to see you are back, I was wondering what happened.

I liked Mdrol better than epi. A lot better. I'm one of those lucky guys who it doesn't give gyno to (even though I thought it was starting for a while). I didn't think Mdrol was as harsh as epi either.

My next cycle is gonna be wicked. I have some transdermal 1-T, Hdrol, and Feraguno(oristan-a, furzadrol) ready to rock!
 
Sooo... On with the log.

Yesterday was abs and 45 minutes of SSCV. Worked out with the girlfriend... she gets mad because I burn more calories than her, lol... she won't buy into the fact that since I weigh almost twice her weight I burn more calories than her doing the same effort in an exercise. It cracks me up when she tries to race me on a bike or the elyptical. I just keep going slow and steady, and she busts her ass... at the end of 45 minutes I have always burnt the most calories. It burns her up... I get a real kick out of it. :lol:

So today I worked on Back and Biceps. Definately don't feel "on" anymore, but no loss in strength or motivation. I weigh the same, 201. I am really anticipating the AS... I have this really bad tendency to always be needing to try something new... so... I wound up finding some 1-AD... but not 1 androsterone, I found some 1-androstene-3beta-17beta-diol. LOL. I couldn't say no. It will also give me an interesting outlook on how the 1T effects me vs. oral 1AD... I look forward to it.

So back to the workout I have switched up my back routine to something different, as I feel that I haven't done so in a long enough time. I am going to switch this in every few weeks now just for a change of pace.

Back
Hammerstrength Pull downs (pronated grip) - 180x10, 230x10, 270x6 - this movement really hits the upper back well in a spot that pull ups don't seem to for me. It def. isn't going to make me wider, but I am not lacking in the back-width department, but I could stand to be a bit thicker... I liked this one.

hammerstrength tbar rows - 90x10, 135x10, 135x6
Close Grip cable rows - 140x10, 170x10, 200x9
lower lat cable pressdowns - 50x10x 3 sets

Biceps
Seated DB curls - 30x10, 40x10, 45x10
21's - 45lbs, 55lbs, 65lbs
cable hammer curls (rope grip) - 100x10, 80x10, 80x10

I am feeling good so far on PCT, no gyno issues, my boys are 100% as far as size goes, I haven't really been moody on the clomid like everyone talks about. I have had one moment where I got pretty upset, but I think that I probably would have been mad regardless. It very easily could have been the DTHC talking too. We'll see how I deal with another week of the clomid. BP is 118/78 :D .

So I said I would write out my diet... well here it finally is... I've been dreading typing all this out, but here it goes.

7:00AM Meal 1 - 6 Eggs, Cereal (bran or oatmeal), bananna/apple. 4 gm fish oil and other supps (no food value at the moment in those) (40gm protein, 60gm carbs 34gm fat)
10:00AM Meal 2 - Casein Shake, bowl of oatmeal (24gm protein, 30gm carbs)
12:30PM Meal 3 - Sandwich/turkey/chicken/beef/fish with 1/2 avo (eat it everyday... I have read it is good for your thyroid levels). If sandwich its on wheat bread, if just chicken/fish/beef plain I have it with brown rice. Cheese on sandwich (40gm protein, 40gm carbs, 30gm fat)
3:30 PM Meal 4 - Preworkout shake (48gm protein, 70gm WMS/carbs)
4:30 PM Meal 5 - During workout (30gm protein, 40gm carbs)
6:00 PM Meal 6 - Post workout Shake - (48 gm protein, 70 gm carbs)
8:00 PM Meal 7 - Steak/Chicken/Fish etc with brown rice or wheat bread. I am not a fan of sweet potatoes... wish I was. I also usually eat a spinach salad with feta cheese (40-60gm protein, 40gm carbs, 15gm fat)
10:00 PM Meal 8 - Casein Shake and some PB. (24gm protein, 15 gm fat, 8 gm carbs)

So that makes 294 gm Protein, 358 gm carbs, 94gm fat... my fat content may be higher, I forget how much fat my oatmeal has in it... that also leaves out any glasses of milk I may drink or milk in the cereal... Oh well lol... I am too lazy to go back and figure it back in.

I hope that is detailed enough for you guys... it is just a basic outline of my general diet. I usually cheat on sundays... my usual cheat food is an In'N'Out burger. If anyone has any suggestions, please go ahead and tell me... trying to learn more about my diet everyday.

I am tired... I'll write up about my workout and why it works for me, and how you could apply it to yourself tomorrow or Saturday.

That's it for now... sleepytime.
 
GMG760 said:
Sooo... On with the log.
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Glad to hear it worked out for you so well, and that the pct is coming along so smooth.

I like the sound of that new cycle you've cooked up. Hdrol and zol is a great combo, I'm thinking the furaz will be even nicer. And the inclusion of 1t sounds mighty tasty. Research that Feraguno before you go into it though. I've read very mixed reviews (I know it's SUPPOSED to be the same compound, but you know how different sources can work). Furazadrol by Axis worked solid for me last time...you just need to rock that compound at 200-300mg, so it gets pricey, but it's worth it. What duration and dosages did you have in mind?

Personally, I'm kicking around a VERY easygoing cutter. Like, mostly cutting ancillaries, and a light, dry AS. I'm thinking of eating T3/ECA w/ a twice daily Napalm chaser, and putting that up with a winZtrol run at 300mg for 4 weeks. Just to avoid catabolism and sharpen those edges a little. I don't want to gain any weight, really. My body's hit a nice sort of equilibrium, where I've been staying pretty lean with little effort.

Oh yeah, and I MAY throw in a little Cyclo Tren :twisted: ...but then it stops being so light. I was thinking I could just do that for 3 of the 4 weeks. Of course, the other option is, from both a physical and financial perspective, I could just go a 4 week oral winny run. Worse for my liver but no risks of gyno, libido loss, etc. Plus, you actually gain some good strength from oral winny. Decisions, decisions...
 
TimberLakers said:
Lol, I love how this is a "light" TG2 run.
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Hey, after my last light run, any time I'm not consuming 4g of combined compounds a day IS light run. The first day I stopped alternately burping pine cones, tar and something that tasted like aspirin, all with that hint of rice flour and magnesium staerate from the crunchy candy shell, it was like I heard choirs of angels singing, homeboy.

What I meant was 1-2 maximum compounds, with only moderate strain on my body. If I go winny, well then I'm sticking to the 50mg daily dose, but I'll only rock it for 3 weeks (mainly because I have to double the order to go more, and it's EXPENSIVE, but also being body-conscious). If I go CTren/Zol, it'll be lowest dose CTren. Zol would still be 300mg, because it's like Frank's Red Hot...I put that sh!t on everything.

I will probably just do 300mg zol though, because T3 and ECA both get your blood pressure up and both the other AS compounds only make that exponentially worst, whereas the zol I know from experience doesn't affect me that way.
 
ThisGuy2 said:
Hey, after my last light run, any time I'm not consuming 4g of combined compounds a day IS light run. The first day I stopped alternately burping pine cones, tar and something that tasted like aspirin, all with that hint of rice flour and magnesium staerate from the crunchy candy shell, it was like I heard choirs of angels singing, homeboy.

What I meant was 1-2 maximum compounds, with only moderate strain on my body. If I go winny, well then I'm sticking to the 50mg daily dose, but I'll only rock it for 3 weeks (mainly because I have to double the order to go more, and it's EXPENSIVE, but also being body-conscious). If I go CTren/Zol, it'll be lowest dose CTren. Zol would still be 300mg, because it's like Frank's Red Hot...I put that sh!t on everything.

I will probably just do 300mg zol though, because T3 and ECA both get your blood pressure up and both the other AS compounds only make that exponentially worst, whereas the zol I know from experience doesn't affect me that way.
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:lol: almost forgot why we missed you...
 
ThisGuy2 said:
Glad to hear it worked out for you so well, and that the pct is coming along so smooth.

I like the sound of that new cycle you've cooked up. Hdrol and zol is a great combo, I'm thinking the furaz will be even nicer. And the inclusion of 1t sounds mighty tasty. Research that Feraguno before you go into it though. I've read very mixed reviews (I know it's SUPPOSED to be the same compound, but you know how different sources can work). Furazadrol by Axis worked solid for me last time...you just need to rock that compound at 200-300mg, so it gets pricey, but it's worth it. What duration and dosages did you have in mind?

Personally, I'm kicking around a VERY easygoing cutter. Like, mostly cutting ancillaries, and a light, dry AS. I'm thinking of eating T3/ECA w/ a twice daily Napalm chaser, and putting that up with a winZtrol run at 300mg for 4 weeks. Just to avoid catabolism and sharpen those edges a little. I don't want to gain any weight, really. My body's hit a nice sort of equilibrium, where I've been staying pretty lean with little effort.

Oh yeah, and I MAY throw in a little Cyclo Tren :twisted: ...but then it stops being so light. I was thinking I could just do that for 3 of the 4 weeks. Of course, the other option is, from both a physical and financial perspective, I could just go a 4 week oral winny run. Worse for my liver but no risks of gyno, libido loss, etc. Plus, you actually gain some good strength from oral winny. Decisions, decisions...
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I personally have only heard good things about spectra force products. I hear hemaguno is STRONG. Feraguno should be the same thing as Oristan-A, not winztrol... which is Oristan-E. There is NO difference in the effect on the body other than Oristan-A raises good HDL cholesterol, while Oristan-E does not.

The 1-T, Hdrol, Feraguno is gonna be siiiick... i just ordered two bottles Toremifine too. Stoked to try that stuff out... a bit more expensive, but it is supposed to be super kind to the libido. Anyone know how to dose Torem?

Any ideas for the PCT of the 1-T, Hdrol, and Feraguno? PM me with them! I was thinking PP's Testosterone Recovery, but I am not sure if the addition of Hdrol is too much for that and would need a light SERM...
 
Where on earth is Thundergod? This log is missing something without him popping in as much as he used to.
 
GMG760 said:
I personally have only heard good things about spectra force products. I hear hemaguno is STRONG. Feraguno should be the same thing as Oristan-A, not winztrol... which is Oristan-E. There is NO difference in the effect on the body other than Oristan-A raises good HDL cholesterol, while Oristan-E does not.

The 1-T, Hdrol, Feraguno is gonna be siiiick... i just ordered two bottles Toremifine too. Stoked to try that stuff out... a bit more expensive, but it is supposed to be super kind to the libido. Anyone know how to dose Torem?

Any ideas for the PCT of the 1-T, Hdrol, and Feraguno? PM me with them! I was thinking PP's Testosterone Recovery, but I am not sure if the addition of Hdrol is too much for that and would need a light SERM...
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This will be a great stack bro, when are you planning on running it, will be awesome, i shall be watching you grow all the way....damm this is hard work even im exasperated waiting for your AS...:toilet:
 
russianstar said:
This will be a great stack bro, when are you planning on running it, will be awesome, i shall be watching you grow all the way....damm this is hard work even im exasperated waiting for your AS...:toilet:
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Hahaha! Good to see you here Russian! I am stoked about the next cycle I have devised... It's still in the works, I'd say I'll be ready to go around the beginning of March.
 
The PP Test Recovery Stack should be good especially if you have a SERM on hand. You should be able to get by with either PCS, Reversitol or CEL's new PCT Assist product as well. The 1-T seems fairly mild and a couple logs indicate a 2 on/5 off use of Sustain Alpha during the cycle helps in the libido department.

I just bought the last bit of my cycle supplies (Vitamin C, B6, Taurine and ALRI Restore for Prolactin/AI). Time is getting close and I am getting excited. Too bad the holidays are here and I have not kept my diet in check like I should have.
 
GMG760 said:
Hahaha! Good to see you here Russian! I am stoked about the next cycle I have devised... It's still in the works, I'd say I'll be ready to go around the beginning of March.
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Awesome buddy, let march roll on, really enjoyed your last log, sorry i got a bit disgruntled, im like that but it wasnt personal, going to enjoy this log too i can tell, take care my brother in iron.

Russian
 
GMG760 said:
I personally have only heard good things about spectra force products. I hear hemaguno is STRONG. Feraguno should be the same thing as Oristan-A, not winztrol... which is Oristan-E. There is NO difference in the effect on the body other than Oristan-A raises good HDL cholesterol, while Oristan-E does not.

The 1-T, Hdrol, Feraguno is gonna be siiiick... i just ordered two bottles Toremifine too. Stoked to try that stuff out... a bit more expensive, but it is supposed to be super kind to the libido. Anyone know how to dose Torem?

Any ideas for the PCT of the 1-T, Hdrol, and Feraguno? PM me with them! I was thinking PP's Testosterone Recovery, but I am not sure if the addition of Hdrol is too much for that and would need a light SERM...
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Really? I've seen a lot of debate about that. Personally, my only experience with Furaz was when I was also taking a bunch of Zol, 11-oxo and MMV2...so it's hard to say. If it really is the same, I can't see spending that much more on it just for improved HDL. You can get stuff at CVS that does that for peanuts and zol goes for like $25 a bottle...almost half.

As for the SERM, you know what I'm gonna say, brudda. Hdrol BEGS for a serm. Don't go without one.
 
ThisGuy2 said:
Really? I've seen a lot of debate about that. Personally, my only experience with Furaz was when I was also taking a bunch of Zol, 11-oxo and MMV2...so it's hard to say. If it really is the same, I can't see spending that much more on it just for improved HDL. You can get stuff at CVS that does that for peanuts and zol goes for like $25 a bottle...almost half.

As for the SERM, you know what I'm gonna say, brudda. Hdrol BEGS for a serm. Don't go without one.
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I wasn't gonna. But you know how to dose torem?

I got my feraguno cheap dude... :D
 
You should just run the Nolv at 20/10/10 for that stack Money... maybe a fourth week at 10. Not sure how the Torem dose went. Silver might actually know.
 
TimberLakers said:
You should just run the Nolv at 20/10/10 for that stack Money... maybe a fourth week at 10. Not sure how the Torem dose went. Silver might actually know.
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Sorry dude, I only have Tamox experience. I have seen several threads that recommend between 90mg and 120mg week 1 and tapering down from there.
 
G, this was from reading threads about using Torem. I was doing my research for a possible future cycle. It went as follows: Days 1-3 100mg, days 4-10 80mg, days 11-20 60mg. Mind you this is just info I found thru reading different logs. I am sure there is somebody with personal experience that can chime in here with more input. Best I got for ya G.
 
AZMIDLYF said:
G, this was from reading threads about using Torem. I was doing my research for a possible future cycle. It went as follows: Days 1-3 100mg, days 4-10 80mg, days 11-20 60mg. Mind you this is just info I found thru reading different logs. I am sure there is somebody with personal experience that can chime in here with more input. Best I got for ya G.
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I appreciate it dude!

Timber - I'm done with the Nolva as far as my typical SERM goes until I run something really strong. I don't like the side effects. I'll have a bottle onhand in case of gyno issues though.
 
Mine just showed up!!!! Argh... I want to drink some...
 
The bottle looks siiick! Way to step up the graphic design LG!!!
 
GMG760 said:
I appreciate it dude!

Timber - I'm done with the Nolva as far as my typical SERM goes until I run something really strong. I don't like the side effects. I'll have a bottle onhand in case of gyno issues though.
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Word... If I were you I'd do the same thing considering you get that libido hack.
 
oh yea!!! I opened up the bottle and it smells pretty good!!! I am debating if I want to crack into it for just one workout... I think I can hold off... :aargh:
 
GMG760 said:
oh yea!!! I opened up the bottle and it smells pretty good!!! I am debating if I want to crack into it for just one workout... I think I can hold off... :aargh:
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4 weeks away bro... We should start a pool to see if you last that long with out getting into it..lol

Im not saying where my bet is going...:lol:
 
Liftergym33 said:
4 weeks away bro... We should start a pool to see if you last that long with out getting into it..lol

Im not saying where my bet is going...:lol:
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he is going to be like me and last maybe a week!

being his arch - nemesis, i will try and make him fail sooner then he expects!
 
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