need help on next ph

fl0atfaced0wn

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I am thinking of doing another cycle come januaryish and im looking for something that is going to have small mass gains. im looking for something mostly to cut with. i've tried serveral ph's and so far h drol has given me great cuts but alittle too much mass. wasnt pleased with my m drol cycle. anyways im 195lbs and 6 foot. im about 5-10 lbs bigger than id like to be but i plan to be where i want to be by january.

oh and ive been looking at a product by rockhardformulations called razorbolic but i havent heard much about it so if you have used it let me know what you think.

my exercise routine is 2 body parts a day and 3 miles a day for 5 - 7 days a week.
 
don't use razorbolic, pplex isn't good for cutting.

Use h-drol again, and stack it with 11oxo(6caps a day)

Or epistane.

you got alot of options
 
why weren't you pleased with m-drol??? provide a bit of info on the last cycle so I can try and help you a bit :)
 
suncloud said:
hdrol gave you too much mass?

why don't you try 3-ad or bold.
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yeah h drol was perfect except for my biceps. my biceps swole up bigger than my head and every other body part was getting toned and not so much "massy". so ive focused on all body parts other than biceps for awhile to let it even out but then the biceps dont look tone. i know it sounds stupid .. im not against h drol .. im actually thinking about taking it again. right now its my first choice but thats why im trying to find out what else is out there that is somewhat like h drol. i would like to experiment.
 
KmuL said:
why weren't you pleased with m-drol??? provide a bit of info on the last cycle so I can try and help you a bit :)
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honestly im not sure what happened with my m drol cycle. its like the stuff just didnt do anything. i cycled milk thistle before hand and then started taking one pill a day for 1 week. 2 pills a day week 2 and 3. although i seen alittle definition and alittle mass it just wasnt what i expected. i expected to be "super" cut when i was done and i wasnt. my diet was right. i did 3 miles a day cardio which may have been the reason why i didnt get much size. and i didnt drink 5 gallons of water a day like ive read you're suppose to. which again could be the cause. im not knocking the stuff. i hear alot of good stuff about it .. but it just wasnt for me rather i did take it right or not. so after week 3 i still have about 2 - 3rds of a bottle of cels m drol that i will probably never take.
 
inmymind801 said:
try winny? IMO 195 at 6 ft is not too massive but its your opinion that counts =]
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yeah im not trying to get massive by any means. im looking for that smaller cut look like i use to be about a year and a half ago. i was 155. after three halo cycles i got up to 185 and was happy about my size and lean muscles. i quit working out for awhile and i got to 205 and not much of it was muscle so ive been working hard for the past 4 - 5 months and im only down to 193 - 195 but my target is around 185 - 190 and then thats when i want to take the cycle.
 
mdrol is a good bulking compound but i wouldnt recommended it on a "cut". ur gains were minimal because of the excess cardio and probably lack of carbs (which mdrol needs).
 
fl0atfaced0wn said:
yeah im not trying to get massive by any means. im looking for that smaller cut look like i use to be about a year and a half ago. i was 155. after three halo cycles i got up to 185 and was happy about my size and lean muscles. i quit working out for awhile and i got to 205 and not much of it was muscle so ive been working hard for the past 4 - 5 months and im only down to 193 - 195 but my target is around 185 - 190 and then thats when i want to take the cycle.
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What's your diet right now? You put on 20 lbs while not working out for a 'while', sounds to me like that may be the problem. Also, losing only ~10 lbs in 4-5 months could be 1) Muscle increase from starting back up countered the fat loss, so the scale doesn't show it or 2) Your diet isn't where it needs to be for your specific goals.

Steroids don't do all the work, still have to have the ABC's of BB'ing down.
 
I'd go with epithio (epistane/havoc) and use a pulse.

I would be afraid of tanking out your HPTA while cutting. Fat is your body's greatest sex hormone stimulator. If you drop a load of fat & your HPTA is shut down, recovery won't be as easy as taking a SERM for a couple of weeks.

Do a 3x week pulse of a slightly higher than usual dose to prevent shutdown.
 
mxmadman said:
What's your diet right now? You put on 20 lbs while not working out for a 'while', sounds to me like that may be the problem. Also, losing only ~10 lbs in 4-5 months could be 1) Muscle increase from starting back up countered the fat loss, so the scale doesn't show it or 2) Your diet isn't where it needs to be for your specific goals.

Steroids don't do all the work, still have to have the ABC's of BB'ing down.
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no i agree i have been put on alot of muscle since starting back. im alot leaner. i quit working out for about 5 - 6 months and i had real bad cortisol problems. all the fat went to my love handles and stomache. i started jogging for afew months at 5 miles a day and still couldnt lose the weight until i finally went back to weights. my diet was high protein such as chicken mostly and tuna. i also ate 5 times a day at small portions. the protein isnt so high right now regretably. also i quit cokes and that showed a big difference as well.
 
WeightShift said:
I'd go with epithio (epistane/havoc) and use a pulse.

I would be afraid of tanking out your HPTA while cutting. Fat is your body's greatest sex hormone stimulator. If you drop a load of fat & your HPTA is shut down, recovery won't be as easy as taking a SERM for a couple of weeks.

Do a 3x week pulse of a slightly higher than usual dose to prevent shutdown.
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sadly enough i really havent heard of those products. ill try to read up on them. when you say a 3x pulse of slightly higher than usual dose are you talking about a test booster or serm? sorry im not quite sure what you're talking about.
 
here is what i think im going to go with. if you think i should do otherwise please let me know.

cel H-drol (what i had been taking was halocore but it think its just a clone of h-drol)
anabolic xtreme hyperdrol x2 (for test booster)
sns inhibit e (for estrogen)
designer supplements lean xtreme (cortisol)

that plus the essentials such as milk thistle, protein, and so on so on.

also do you think i should buy a serm just for precautions?
 
also should i go 50/50/50/50 on the hdrol because i seen some people do a 6 week cycle and i seen that some people do 100mg a day.
 
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