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first PH cycle, please guide me

shivboy89

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i've been training for about 5 years so i think i qualify, and im of age too. im looking to gain mainly strength, although some size would be great too. i've heard epistane is good. can anyone link me to a first cycle guide of some sort?
 
Your best bet is the search function.

type epistane, and 100000000000000000000000 threads will come up. :)

But to be more helpful..

Epistane 20 30 30 40mg

Cycle support: cycle assist through out the cycle.

PCT: nolva 20 20 10 10 Or clomid: 100 50 50 50
test booster: PCT assist

Or if you want to go the OTC route which i don't prefer.

You can go with

6-oxo extreme: 600/400/300/200
test booster: PCT assist

or

Reversitol: 3/2/2/1
test booster: PCT assist


Basic cycle, 8-10lbs or more.

Based on your diet is in check and training as well. goodluck
 
your best bet is researching until you don't need a guide to construct your cycle

also i'd be curious about your age, just because your name is shivboy89.

All that said, Epi is a solid first cycle. What are your stats and specific goals for this one? If it's just more strength than mass maybe even a 19-nor tren could work well.
 
oh lol 8/9/1980 is my bday


stats
height: 5'7
weight 165

bench/squat/dead 235,325,380

specific goals.. hmm.. just gain as much strength possible.
 
adding more size naturally is always a good idea

if the main goal is to raise the "big 3" lifts though, what do you guys think of a 19-nor tren like this:
60/60/90/90/90
 
I think 19nors are a great place to start for newbies to prohormones. Minimally dangerous and you can still get the acceptable gains.

At his weight though, I'd stick to 60-70ish. At 90, sides might start to rear their ugly heads. He could always hit 90 and then just taper back down if they show up.
 
I don't think tren is near mild. That **** shut me down. a noob losing his libido on his 1st cycle would prolly get depressed.

stick to Epistane/Havoc. some joint pain won't depress you.
 
ezza said:
Yeah add more size so you too can be a meat head and talk down to people just like rugger:FUfinger:
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Awwww, don't get butthurt

It's friendly advice, we like to make sure people are "on the level" before starting

Are you on the level? :trout:
 
Problem said:
I don't think tren is near mild. That **** shut me down. a noob losing his libido on his 1st cycle would prolly get depressed.

stick to Epistane/Havoc. some joint pain won't depress you.
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Would h-drol be a better choice for beginners?? or is epistane/havok milder/safer for noobs?
 
shinivan said:
Would h-drol be a better choice for beginners?? or is epistane/havok milder/safer for noobs?
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h-drol at 50 50 75 75 75 75. great cycle for begginers, and you can get away with an OTC PCT. although i'll always use a SERM, no kitchen sink stuff.
 
Problem said:
h-drol at 50 50 75 75 75 75. great cycle for begginers, and you can get away with an OTC PCT. although i'll always use a SERM, no kitchen sink stuff.
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Currently doing PCT for that exact cycle. I'm using AI PCS. No problems at all. A serm might even be doing more harm than good for a cycle that mild.

Definitely gets my vote anyway :thumbsup:
 
Problem said:
h-drol at 50 50 75 75 75 75. great cycle for begginers, and you can get away with an OTC PCT. although i'll always use a SERM, no kitchen sink stuff.
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Im planning on reversitol plus activate xtreme for pct only plus leanfx and liver longer from thermolife.
I also hear people going for bold for first ph cycle. Is that stuff less harsh than h-drol? Is it mathylated?. It seems folks are doing that plus reversitol only pct. I would like to learn more about bold, any links?
Thanks:thumbsup:
 
Hahahah, the title of this thread is funny as shet. It's like "Roid-Fu...The Legend Continues"

If you really wanna jump into the hard stuff, look into H-Drol. It seems to be a good lil' starter PH. Hit up a cycle at 5-6 weeks. Dependent on body weight, you should start at 50mg and ramp up to 100mg.

Make sure you have something of a serm onhand. Won't suggest which, but just make sure to have one of your choice. And since H-Drol is so mild, you won't NEED to use it if you stay at a sane dosage of the -drol. Something of a PCT Assist/Trione combo will suffice. Cortisol modulation is optional. You don't need to knock it out completely. You should just kind of knock it down, not out.

Good luck, Hambone.
 
Rugger said:
I think you should try adding some more size before you consider steroids.
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looks like he is more going for strength and if you look percentage wise he is pretty strong for his weight based on his lifts.

if he was 220lbs based on percentage his lifts would like like this

Bench 313lbs
Squat 433 lbs
Dead 506lbs
 
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