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Yeah I know that it's fear of rebound later on, but I was wondering how come. And originally I thought it would be a good idea to stack with the wet compounds, but I was kanda hoping for others' opinions. I'm already in the cycle, but havent hit the mark for starting the trena, so at this point, its either keep it or leave it...
 
Brian5225 said:
Yeah I know that it's fear of rebound later on, but I was wondering how come. And originally I thought it would be a good idea to stack with the wet compounds, but I was kanda hoping for others' opinions. I'm already in the cycle, but havent hit the mark for starting the trena, so at this point, its either keep it or leave it...
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everyone has opinions about it like the AI suppressing estrogen too much and the body creates more later to compensate but dont quote me im not very familiar with all the mechanisms here. Some dont believe rebound is even real (dr houser believes its just person Dependant) since some of his patients got gyno from running BOLD200 etc.
 
Yeah yeah yeah tsk tsk all you want lol I'm a bad boy so spank me haha. no actually please don't. brings back memories of that one girlfriend.:whip:. I've got the formestane, and I also some b6 p5p for any prolactin issues that may come up. I only thought about adding the trena because its non-methylated and I thought maybe it could help with hardening. If not, then I'll just leave it out. As for the others i've got hawthorn berry, milk thistle, b6, formestane, and novadex xt! So i'm all set! just playin, I got some nolva, and this time I went with tabs, I'll never use a chem again after gettin ripped off.
 
Alright, well thanks for the input. I like SD's mass properties anyways. Maybe I'll just save the trena for a good cut some time.
 
I am bridging Xtreme Tren and Epidrol right now. On my 13th days of Tren and the let me tell you this is the real deal. My strength and stamina level has gone way up, and it seems like this stuff kicks in around week 2. I will start the epidrol on monday, cant wait. I have tried Trenadrol before, so far I am enjoying this more. On Trenadrol I could not control my temper, I was seriously always pissed off.
 
bassgod272 said:
No prolactin support is needed. It is not a progestin. As for PCT, a "regular" PCT protocol with a SERM is a must. It's pretty mild, but it will still cause shut down just like any other exogenous hormonal compound.
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Since when?

19-nor's and estra's from my recollection are progestins.

Help me out bass. Am I misunderstood?
 
The research I've read on this board (i believe from Ziqour) shows the estra 4,9 diene has a very low affinity for the progesterone receptor. Basically, any steroid that has been termed a progestin has just meant it had a high affinity for that receptor. All steroids seem to have some sort of affinity for the PR.
 
Kristofer68SS said:
Since when?

19-nor's and estra's from my recollection are progestins.

Help me out bass. Am I misunderstood?
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This discussion goes back about 5 years, hahaha. I was reading through some of the first thread ever in the steroid section in my research on this product. Patrick Arnold has a bunch to say on it.
 
Gtarzan81 said:
This discussion goes back about 5 years, hahaha. I was reading through some of the first thread ever in the steroid section in my research on this product. Patrick Arnold has a bunch to say on it.
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Right, I've read so much about this and there is still so much contrary information. I do have a bottle of T-Roid on my desk but still didn't feel comfortable to hit it.

So please keep it coming.........


Edit: Typo :-)
 
jasonschaffin said:
The research I've read on this board (i believe from Ziqour) shows the estra 4,9 diene has a very low affinity for the progesterone receptor. Basically, any steroid that has been termed a progestin has just meant it had a high affinity for that receptor. All steroids seem to have some sort of affinity for the PR.
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Thats fine. But almost every vendor is listing it as part of the progestin family. Why is that?

FYI, Nolva may upregulate on the PGr as well...........

Whatever it is, it does seem to be acting as a progestin.

Leaking nips and all. LBM, drying and strength gains.

Please do tell, what is this compound if not a progestin?
 
bassgod272 said:
Who knows bro. Why does muscle tech claim you will gain 10lbs in 2 weeks using their protein? I have no answer for that. Read back i the thread and you will see the facts and chemical breakdown. Honestly tren causes prolactin issues, many people know this, so the companies probably market this is a progestin and put the name tren in it, just to sell more product. To make people think it's actually a ph to trenbolone. In reality, it's not even close and the 2 are nothing alike. Nothing will give you the strength gains of tren legally.
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oh i agree with it not being real tren. That is for sure.

But do we really even know what were getting from one vendor to the next?

the answer is NO.

So misinformation is your answer? Good enough i guess.
 
here is a title search for dienolone.

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Maybe the FDA does need to step in.

I would really like to know what is in products I purchase.
 
What I learned so far is that xtreme tren-x, T-Roid etc. are androgens and not progestins. I also learned that even being an androgen those compounds still have some progestational activity.

My question is, do xtreme tren-x, T-Roid etc. have more progestational activity than other androgens? Do you have to be more concerned about progestin sides than with others?
Or is all that prolactin inhibition with Vitex, B6, Caber etc. overrated?

~abuleh
 
Rugger said:
ah who cares. One shot at life. Might as well have fun
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I'm with you rugger. I mean 4-8 weeks of about anything besides drain-o and the body should stabilize itself with the same time off(pct and supps of course).

F u c k it........Im going with it.
 
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abuleh said:
What I learned so far is that xtreme tren-x, T-Roid etc. are androgens and not progestins. I also learned that even being an androgen those compounds still have some progestational activity.

My question is, do xtreme tren-x, T-Roid etc. have more progestational activity than other androgens? Do you have to be more concerned about progestin sides than with others?
Or is all that prolactin inhibition with Vitex, B6, Caber etc. overrated?

~abuleh
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dienolone should not have much progestational activity. everyone responds differently though.
most manufacturers are probably trying to play off the fact that people call nandrolone and tren progestins when selling these. these also are androgens they just have varying PR and estrogen activity, hence the sides associated with each. also the manufacturers are more then likely misinformed.:frustrate
 
was thinking about getting a bottle of the tri city tren was wondering what to get for post cycle Im kind of a newbie to the PH thing only used real gear in the past any info would be appreciated!
 
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