vikinginc’s Twisted PCT/Re-comp Extravaganza

Haha, that cracked me up; not merely the bro-to-bro advice and suggestions, but you're going all the way down to the nitty gritty science behind the movements, huh ?!

Yes, the amount of DC style training around the block here would really put me in the prime neighborhood for attempting such a training style. And Thunder's also praused the $hit outta MMv2, and I'm sure he'd have some great advice there.

I've got a day of research ahead, including starting on page 1 of Thunder's Mad Methyl Meltdown.
And V, I appreciate your advice, and I'll be digging your brain from time to time from here on ! :whip:


You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to VolcomX311 again.
That's gonna be one long day of research!! ha ha You should try skimming through the pages and look at the progression of my workouts and the weight increases. The DC type rest-pauses has taken my strength way up. I think you would really enjoy it. You will probably also wanna tweak it and employ more sets than a true DC routine advocates. I gotta have a little volume. Gotta get my pump on!! LOL
 
That's gonna be one long day of research!! ha ha You should try skimming through the pages and look at the progression of my workouts and the weight increases. The DC type rest-pauses has taken my strength way up. I think you would really enjoy it. You will probably also wanna tweak it and employ more sets than a true DC routine advocates. I gotta have a little volume. Gotta get my pump on!! LOL

Haha, I've gone through about half your Methyl Smackdown, and all I can say is . . :jaw:

Sick intensity, sick weights you're throwing around; lots of great sound advice in there on food/diet, training, supplements/anabolics . . Loooaded with info !

And I did notice it's a hybrid-DC training style . . When you, f.x, go on Pulldowns, and do 300 * 8-6-4, is that done in rest-pause style ? with how many seconds between sets ? .. and when you 'go back/down' and reduce the weights to like 220 * 10 for your final set, is that a drop-set immidiately following your previous three sets ? .. How long does one DC-Hybrid-Thundergod session take ? What's the minimum amount of muscle groups you'd hit in one session; two ?
 
Day #22 of PCT:

PM-session: Legs (quads)

Barbell Squats - 135 * 20, 225 * 15, 315 * 10, 315 * 8, 315 * 8, 315 * 6 -> Drop -> 225 * 12 [ass to the grass squats as usual!]

Machine Squats (fixed lever) - 90 * 10, 90 * 10, 90 * 10 [ass to the grass once again, tore up my teardrops!]

Leg Extensions - 100 * 15, 120 * 15, 140 * 15, 160 * 12, 180 * 10
Dumbbell Lunges (w/pair of 50s) - 5 reps * 2 sets

Weight - ?


Notes:

- first leg session in 5 weeks; I'm happy as hell to be back doing them ! On squats, I wasn't gonna work my way up carefully; I just piled on plate after plate, and not the 25s. . . 225 for 15 got my legs pumped; 315 for 10 could've been 12, but I knew I had 3 more sets to go. My second set for 8 reps was a struggle, and as I was preparing for set 3, a powerlifting buddy of mine came up to me, and asked me what I had in my gallon jug (xtend, l-leucine, beta alanine). We shot the $hit for 3-4 minutes, and as I got under the bar again, my quads were shaking, as they had cooled down a little bit . . managed three more sets total before completing squats.

- Machine Squats is done on a little station where you squeeze your neck in between two 'shoulder pads', hold a grip/handle at shoulder level in front of you, unhook a lever, and squat down. The weights are placed on each side of this fixture. I've Never once done these before, and sweet heeesus, following my squat session, these, performed rock-muthaf*kin'-bottom, torched my tear drops like nothing ever has before ! A totally new feel, and a great feel !!!

- I went all out on leg extensions today, surpassing the weights I normally used on them. Ahhh, what a sick pump ! I couldn't walk after these five working sets! I grabbed the 50s for db lunges, and I barely got back up on my first repetition .. haha, I was muscling out 5 reps each leg each set, but then called it quits. I wanted to do more, TRUST ME, but my stomach had been f*kin' with me since my consumption of Vassive NO pre-workout . . No wonder I took 6 weeks off from pre-workout drinks; they screw my stomach every time .. After my final set of lunges; where I squeezed the hell outta myself, I had to RUN to the bathroom . . end of story . .

- But as for my leg session; brutal, intense, and I'm still walking with a limp !!!
 
Machine Squats are a great addition to a solid leg workout. I definintely don't use them as a replacement for squats, but I like to use them for an added exercise. I like the Hammer Strength one that my gym has.
 
Haha, I've gone through about half your Methyl Smackdown, and all I can say is . . :jaw:

Sick intensity, sick weights you're throwing around; lots of great sound advice in there on food/diet, training, supplements/anabolics . . Loooaded with info !

And I did notice it's a hybrid-DC training style . . When you, f.x, go on Pulldowns, and do 300 * 8-6-4, is that done in rest-pause style ? with how many seconds between sets ? .. and when you 'go back/down' and reduce the weights to like 220 * 10 for your final set, is that a drop-set immidiately following your previous three sets ? .. How long does one DC-Hybrid-Thundergod session take ? What's the minimum amount of muscle groups you'd hit in one session; two ?
Yes, when an exercise's reps are listed like 8-4-3 or something, it's a DC type set. Which means I got 8 reps at total failure where 1 more complete rep would be almost impossible. Then you take 15 deep breaths, this will take around 30 seconds. Then you go again with the same heavy ass weight. This time you will more than likely hit failure at rep 3 to 5. You then take 15 more deep breaths and go a final time. This time you most likely hit failure at rep 1 to 3. This is 1 DC set!!! It is brutal sh!t brutha. Then I rest at least a full minute before I hit my reduced weight "back off" set. I concentrate on using textbook perfect form on these and also with much slower negatives. I also toss in some occasional partial reps at the end of these sets. Or a sadistic static hold! And each workout I hit 2 bodyparts or 3 if you count small groups like forearms, calves, and traps. But it basically a push-pull system of Chest and Tri's, then Back and Bi's, and then Legs and Shoulders. This is how I group them together. Each workout takes about 1 hour and 15 to 30 minutes. But I do some things that I never list in my log. I always mention that these aren't all the sets or even exercises that I perform sometimes. I just list the basics. The meat and potatoes if you will. I am getting better results from this routine than any other routine that I have tried in the past. And that goes back some 25 years of lifting for me. So it is effective if you pour your heart and soul into it. And I know for sure that you would viking. You would adapt very well to this type of intense training. You already workout like a beast!! :twisted:
 
Yes, when an exercise's reps are listed like 8-4-3 or something, it's a DC type set. Which means I got 8 reps at total failure where 1 more complete rep would be almost impossible. Then you take 15 deep breaths, this will take around 30 seconds. Then you go again with the same heavy ass weight. This time you will more than likely hit failure at rep 3 to 5. You then take 15 more deep breaths and go a final time. This time you most likely hit failure at rep 1 to 3. This is 1 DC set!!! It is brutal sh!t brutha. Then I rest at least a full minute before I hit my reduced weight "back off" set. I concentrate on using textbook perfect form on these and also with much slower negatives. I also toss in some occasional partial reps at the end of these sets. Or a sadistic static hold! And each workout I hit 2 bodyparts or 3 if you count small groups like forearms, calves, and traps. But it basically a push-pull system of Chest and Tri's, then Back and Bi's, and then Legs and Shoulders. This is how I group them together. Each workout takes about 1 hour and 15 to 30 minutes. But I do some things that I never list in my log. I always mention that these aren't all the sets or even exercises that I perform sometimes. I just list the basics. The meat and potatoes if you will. I am getting better results from this routine than any other routine that I have tried in the past. And that goes back some 25 years of lifting for me. So it is effective if you pour your heart and soul into it. And I know for sure that you would viking. You would adapt very well to this type of intense training. You already workout like a beast!! :twisted:

Oh brother ! You got me sold on DC ! God dayumm, that's how you perform your sets, huh ?! I love the intensity . . the rest-15 seconds, then kill the weight again . . My kind of training indeed !!! And I can imagine you're switching it up like a mad-man with what you post here and the additional movements you don't . . I think that the gym is your oyster when training like this, you just do whatever you got to do to step it up a notch and surpass your previous week's best..Arrrgh, this is gettting me fiiiired up !

.. Thunder, last night, i sat up till 2.30AM, high as a kite from when I went house hopping from bros-to-bros house earlier in the evening, smoking dank a$$ lemon Diesel following some, believe it or not, dank a$$ green schwag with red hairs and crystals covering it ! . . point of my story, I sat here skimmming through 40 pages of your Methyl madness, copying and pasting every one of your workout sessions I came across, every protein snack recipe you offered, and even stole Socrates' quote . . . I was sold on that log; god damn not being used to hit up the Anabolics Forum of am.com .. I am now !!!
 
I think I've mentioned before, that TG's traps are more like camel humps, with the actual ability to store water.
 
Yes, when an exercise's reps are listed like 8-4-3 or something, it's a DC type set. Which means I got 8 reps at total failure where 1 more complete rep would be almost impossible. Then you take 15 deep breaths, this will take around 30 seconds. Then you go again with the same heavy ass weight. This time you will more than likely hit failure at rep 3 to 5. You then take 15 more deep breaths and go a final time. This time you most likely hit failure at rep 1 to 3. This is 1 DC set!!! It is brutal sh!t brutha. Then I rest at least a full minute before I hit my reduced weight "back off" set. I concentrate on using textbook perfect form on these and also with much slower negatives. I also toss in some occasional partial reps at the end of these sets. Or a sadistic static hold! And each workout I hit 2 bodyparts or 3 if you count small groups like forearms, calves, and traps. But it basically a push-pull system of Chest and Tri's, then Back and Bi's, and then Legs and Shoulders. This is how I group them together. Each workout takes about 1 hour and 15 to 30 minutes. But I do some things that I never list in my log. I always mention that these aren't all the sets or even exercises that I perform sometimes. I just list the basics. The meat and potatoes if you will. I am getting better results from this routine than any other routine that I have tried in the past. And that goes back some 25 years of lifting for me. So it is effective if you pour your heart and soul into it. And I know for sure that you would viking. You would adapt very well to this type of intense training. You already workout like a beast!! :twisted:

I've done the rest-pause style you speak of. Only rather then 15 breaths, it was a 10 second count down. My goal was always to hit 15 total reps, starting with a weight that would force me to fail at 6-7 reps, then it was 3-5 rep failures until 15.

Since we only have 125lbs Db's, I would aim for 30 reps in this fashion with traps.

It is rather intense.
 
Day #23 of PCT:

AM-cardio:

- 60 minute walk outdoors in fasted state.
 
Good lord I am sore ! My quads are shaking when walking, and gave in a couple times while walking. Kind of like when your knee gives in, you just 'fall' down real quickly, and got to catch yourself from falling over .. It's a good feeling though ! I could barely get out of bed this morning, and contemplated a Pslin cap for breakfast, followed by a cup oatmeal w/one mooshed banana, 2 tbs PB and one scoop vanilla why. . but those carbs won't help me shed fat ! So instead, I popped 3 caps Dialene 4 (original) and went walking in a fasted state. I did, however, consume 1.5 scoops strawberry whey as soon as I woke up . .
 
Those machine squats turned those knees into rubber, didn't they??!! ha ha They're brutal. :twisted: I'm glad you got buzzed and skimmed through my log. I bet that was some weird reading when you're all fried!! You can borrow and adopt certain aspects from DC, and some other things from HIT, and then mix in your own personal twists, and come up with your own hybrid routine. You, Volcom, snagency, and myself share similar training philosophies and ideas. It's great to learn from you guys. We're all here to support and motivate each other. Everyone here at AM helps me more than they could ever realize. Happy Training my viking brother!! :hammer: Keep bringing it. I'm feeling the electricity!!
 
I've done the rest-pause style you speak of. Only rather then 15 breaths, it was a 10 second count down. My goal was always to hit 15 total reps, starting with a weight that would force me to fail at 6-7 reps, then it was 3-5 rep failures until 15.

Since we only have 125lbs Db's, I would aim for 30 reps in this fashion with traps.

It is rather intense.
Good stuff. Even on some of my more "conventional" sets, I still rest-pause some of the last reps for a couple of seconds to extend the sets beyond normal. I am an intensity-junkie!! :twisted: That's why I think viking would love this type of training. I saw his video of him doing Smith-Machine Squats with 405 X 12 reps. And he slightly rest-paused most of those reps on that set. He's already used to this type of brutality. The longer DC-type 15 deep-breaths for a 30 second rest-pause will take his sets to new heights!! But you can only toss in a couple of DC sets like this per workout. You don't want to crush your CNS. It has to recover also. And I take little power naps when I can to make sure I'm getting enough sleep to recover. You'll need it with this kind of training.
 
Day #22 of PCT:

PM-session: Hamstrings & Abs

Still-legged Deadlifts - 135 * 20, 185 * 15, 235 * 15, 285 * 12, 325 * 8
superset with
Leg Tucks (@ end of bench) - 75 reps * 2 sets
Leg Tucks (@ end of bench w/20 lbs DB between feet) - 30 reps * 3 sets

Stiff-legged Dumbbell Deadlifts - 45 lbs/hand * 20, 70 lbs/hand * 15, 80 lbs/hand * 15 reps * 2 sets
superset with
Crunches - 5 sets * 25-30 reps

One-legged Hamstring Curls - 50 * 15 reps * 2 sets


Weight - 226 lbs.


- an intense, quick, energetic and all-out session ! My quads were torn up from yesterday, but I didn't feel I hit hams at all . . hence, I split up hams and quads - and I'll keep doing this ! Unbelievable pump in my hams, and my abs are torn up .. I've never done 75 reps with leg tucks before; I've barely completed 3 sets in a row with 50 reps before . . Insane ! I decided to add the dumbbell because I've got to build my lower abs enough for them to bulge out more; hence I did high reps for refinement and fine-tuning, and lower reps for more muscle-breakdown. Next ab-session will be similar, only I'll add hanging leg raises and broomstick twists.
 
Ab improvements are awesome. I dont know if I missed it, but where are you standing on this whole DC or DC hybrid thing?
 
Ab improvements are awesome. I dont know if I missed it, but where are you standing on this whole DC or DC hybrid thing?

Yes, it is ! I'm seeing great improvements in leanness, day by day. Cuts are getting better, the V-lines on lower abdomen are showing greatly ! And I'll be cranking up the intensity from here on on the ab-work. Got to take advantage of being able to keep my diet in check as perfectly as I am.

The DC thing .. I wanna, I wanna . . but I also wanna do MMv2 . . but I ought to hold off on the latter till January, and like I mentioned, my current session is yielding results, body re-comp wise as well as fat loss wise . . Regardless, I was going to start the DC routine NEXT week . . it's still in the thinking-bubble; lots to take into consideration. You'll hear it once I know it, bro !
 
How do you like doing those SLdbDL? I've never tried them, but am considering incorporating them into my routine.

I Love them ! I've always included them for hamstrings. The stretch is unbelievable. Have a slight bend in your knees, and your good to go. It really hits my upper hamstrings/glute tie-in as well. And he DB variety, WHEW !! Talk about a stretch !!!!
 
I Love them ! I've always included them for hamstrings. The stretch is unbelievable. Have a slight bend in your knees, and your good to go. It really hits my upper hamstrings/glute tie-in as well. And he DB variety, WHEW !! Talk about a stretch !!!!

I'm sold.

I'm going to replace either the Prone Leg Curl or Kneeling Leg Curl for these.
 
I Love them ! I've always included them for hamstrings. The stretch is unbelievable. Have a slight bend in your knees, and your good to go. It really hits my upper hamstrings/glute tie-in as well. And he DB variety, WHEW !! Talk about a stretch !!!!

For sure. I do the Romanian-style db deads, been doing em for couple yrs. now, awesome movement.
 
I'm sold.

I'm going to replace either the Prone Leg Curl or Kneeling Leg Curl for these.
I would toss out the prone leg curls and keep the kneeling ones Irish. The SLdbDL's are more of a compound/mass movement and will target the larger upper hamstring/glute tie-in area. The kneeling leg curls are more of an isolation movement that will target the smaller lower hamstring area from mid' ham down towards the back of the knee. So if it was me, I'd keep the kneeling and toss out the prone. Just my $.02 Stay real strict on those kneeling leg curls bro. Of course, you basically have to! LOL
 
Yes, it is ! I'm seeing great improvements in leanness, day by day. Cuts are getting better, the V-lines on lower abdomen are showing greatly ! And I'll be cranking up the intensity from here on on the ab-work. Got to take advantage of being able to keep my diet in check as perfectly as I am.

The DC thing .. I wanna, I wanna . . but I also wanna do MMv2 . . but I ought to hold off on the latter till January, and like I mentioned, my current session is yielding results, body re-comp wise as well as fat loss wise . . Regardless, I was going to start the DC routine NEXT week . . it's still in the thinking-bubble; lots to take into consideration. You'll hear it once I know it, bro !
You don't have to totally revamp your training routine just to incorporate some DC type sets into it. In the next few workouts on your basic mass movements (Benches, Squats, Pulldowns, Rows, Shoulder Presses, Barbell Curls, Close-Grip Bench or SkullCrushers) after you have warmed up thoroughly and pyramided up, do your first heaviest work set in DC style. The 3 mini-sets within a set. Using the 15 deep breaths between them. These 15 deep breaths should take approximately 30 seconds. Don't rush it!! Breathe in deeply through your nostrils and breathe out through your mouth. It's almost like meditation or mantra. Try to calm yourself with these deep breaths. And then psych up and go again!! Start with this subtle change to your present routine and evaluate how DC type sets suit you. Then you can re-structure your routine more if you like. Keep it real my viking brother!!
 
Day #23 of PCT:

AM-cardio: in completely fasted state upon waking

- 45 minute run outdoors
 
You don't have to totally revamp your training routine just to incorporate some DC type sets into it. In the next few workouts on your basic mass movements (Benches, Squats, Pulldowns, Rows, Shoulder Presses, Barbell Curls, Close-Grip Bench or SkullCrushers) after you have warmed up thoroughly and pyramided up, do your first heaviest work set in DC style. The 3 mini-sets within a set. Using the 15 deep breaths between them. These 15 deep breaths should take approximately 30 seconds. Don't rush it!! Breathe in deeply through your nostrils and breathe out through your mouth. It's almost like meditation or mantra. Try to calm yourself with these deep breaths. And then psych up and go again!! Start with this subtle change to your present routine and evaluate how DC type sets suit you. Then you can re-structure your routine more if you like. Keep it real my viking brother!!

Ahhh, yes, I didn't even think of it; making yet another hybrid-DC style training a la' viking. I will without a doubt incorporate the three mini-sets as I'm encountering a pectoral meltdown tomorrow. Or is it a deltoid massacre tomorrow? Hmm, not sure .. either way, today will be an off-day. Apart from this morning's cardio session, and perhaps one later on. My legs are so god damn sore, from top to bottom, around the entire tree-trunks of mine. They feel and look jacked, and large!
 
I get no greater satisfaction from my weightlifting than a hardcore leg slamming, followed up by the lack of my ability to walk the next day.
 
Storytime:

Alright, fellas, here we go again . .

- my bud calls me following my workout last night and wanted me to drop by to try out the new dank-a$$ schwag. Yes, I did say schwag, but this one is more of a hybrid . . could be sold as dro had it not been for it being a bit too compact.

Anyway, I brought my dog, for whatever reason . . and we were a little group of buds there, lighting the bong. Every time, they want me to hit it first, because I keep impressing them . . I've got the Nordic lung capacity, the kind Norwegians are born with in order to make it up in the mountains and bare through long winter nights . . And I don't smoke cigarettes, so they never took the 'real' beating. I can rip the living $hit out of this 2.5 foot long bong w/an icechamber. Literally, I'll tear up a 1-1.5 gram bowl. I went for it, and they told me the smoke that filled the chamber was so (what's the word) that it was yellow before I removed the bowl and took it all in. THey were sitting there with the WTF-look on their faces, waiting for me to caugh. . but no, I held it in, some more, some more .. .ahhhh, exhale slooowly. No caugh. Real HIIIGH! hahah . . this has become a part of every 'party' lately, as it seems to impress anyone I run into, lol. My bud's told me some girls were coming over in a bit, and told me I oughtta do that again then .. 'Cool,' I said.

Twenty minutes later, four girls come in, two hot, two not, one of the hot ones I knew, and she's a cool girl. These new three *****es; don't know 'em, never will; **** them, but let me get to my point before I tear them a new one.

The other hot one walks up to me and without hesitation; 'are you on juice cus your a laaaa-ha-ha-ha-arge man' . . I'm thinking, 'you f*king *****, you didn't go there' . . No, I'm not on juice, natural actually, I just bust my a$$ at perfecting what I do' . . she looks up, walks off, while throwing out, 'you know, juice shrinks your nuts and balls, and, well . . [hint hint]' . . this C@nt says this as she's walking away from me, not even looking, and I'm just telling myself, stay calm, stay calm . . I was high enough to be like, '**** it', but I was enraged. No dumb c@nt will talk to me like that, end of story.

We all walk into the kitchen, about 8-9 of us .. I lean over the counter, and one of my buddies tell the girls I was Norwegian, and suggested I said something. I turn and stare down this dumb c@nt from before, and go; 'du, din dumme fitte ! Hvem faen tror du du er a ? Du maa faen passe kjeften din foer du har noe kommende'

Translated: 'YOU ! You stupid f*king c*nt ! Who the f*ck do you think you are ? Watch your f*king mouth or you got something coming to ya !'

The girls go, what, what did you say !? The girl I had just been staring down goes, 'something tells me, from the way you were staring me down, that I won't want to know..' . . I look at her, 'damn straight' . . End of battle 1, but I had so much resentment in me. And did I mention I was high ? They oughtta thank the MJ for me being in that condition . .

I picked the bong up, this time loaded with Orange Kush, and my friend allowed me to RIP IT! I did . . just like before . Holy mutha-f*kin'-$hit ! OOoeeeeeee !

[Remember I said i brought my dog? Well, I hadn't seen him in ten minutes; not since we got into the kitchen]

'Where's my dog at?!' I say out of nowhere as we're all sitting there . . 'I haven't seen him in ten minutes' . . they all look at eachother, 'uhhhmmmmmm... dont know !' .. I leave the kitchen and go looking for him, calling his name inside, no response, and run to the door leading out to the garage, because my dog had already snuck out there once earlier as someone openened it to go outside. Being Hiiiigh, I got paranoid, and thought, 'he went out when the girls came in!!!' . . I run outdoors, and scream his name, whistle.. no response ! After 3-4 minutes, I go back inside, convinced he's in one of the rooms. I go to the two rooms that are open, call his name, look around the corner of the beds, no beagle, no sound, no anything.. I'm freaking out !

I run into the kitchen, 'I can't find my dog!!' I said, obviously affected by it. I turn around and head for the garage door to go outdoors again, and I hear this one girl go, 'watch out, he's gonna hit something!' .. You've got to be f*king kidding me? Who the f*ck talks like this to anyone, nonetheless given the circumstances, you dumb f*king c*nts!? . . I stop as I'm on my way out, yell back, 'What the f*ck did you say? I'm gonna hit something ?! Labeling me here much, you dumb skank ? F*ck you !' I continue outdoors.

So, my bud lives right off of a busy street in CS; one of the MAIN streets, three lane traffic each direction, and my buds house is 20 yards off of this hw in a neighboorhood. I'm freaking out. I scream his name. . run to the street, little traffic, thank god, look up and down .. and ... what the f*ck is that in the road ? a little shadow . . laying motionless . . :jaw:





.. no hesitation, i sprint out in the middle of the road, run towards this lifeless thing, calling out, Benji. No response. I'm high, keep in mind, so I'm freakin the f*ck out ! I run over to this dog, my sized dog, brown, little face, everything, check, check, check. . I stand over him, heart in my chest, stood there for 30-40 seconds, cars passing by in both directions, f*ck if I care . .

.. it took me a minute to realize it wasn't my dog, as a result of being real paranoid, thinking 'worst-case-scenario' as usual . . looked at its tiny little head, and it's tongue was hanging out. It was a sore sight. Knowing it wasn't my dog, I still didn't want it laying here getting torn up, so I picked up the dead-stiff dog, and ran it across the road back to the curb, and my buddy saw me as I ran towards him, thinking 'he found his dead f*cking dog in the road!' . . I look at my bud, it's not my dog, it's not my f*cking dog !

I go towards the house, and I'm f*cked up by now . . too much going on . . and considering I had just picked up a dead dog the size of mine in the middle of the road . . I'm freaking out . . no dog in sight . . this ain't right . .

As i come up to the house, all 8 people are outdoors, and my bud goes, BRO, your dog's in the house ! He was hiding under the bed !!



. . . . The End !


- I won't be sleeping right for weeks after this scenario. Traffic vs my dog has freaked me out before, but this time it was too real, and too close for comfort. What a night.
 
I get no greater satisfaction from my weightlifting than a hardcore leg slamming, followed up by the lack of my ability to walk the next day.

Oh man, shaky and achy legs; nothing is better ! Oh, and once I got to lay down for the night last night; wow, rest/laying down has never felt better !
 
Anyway.. for those who read my story, tell me this.

- How do you deal with the accusations of juice ? The stereotyping ?

.. it's been a long time since anyone accused me of juice, and once I was bigger (@250 + lbs) I thought, yeah, I guess I understand because I'm looking humongous, but f*ck them .. Whereas NOW, I'm lean, mean @ 226 lbs, I'm busting my f*cking ass to get the results I'm getting, and to have someone LABEL me like that, drawing conclusion before even talking to me, not giving me the benefit of the doubt . . made me want to tear heads off !
 
Holy crap, dude. My heart was racing immediately when I read that you lost your dog...and then when you mentioned the shaddow lying in the street...wow. I wanted to cry. Thank goodness you found your dog, man. That would have been horrible.

I like how you handled that chick. I hate when people are like that. I just turned on the tube and saw this scene on some movie and that it was awesome. You just can't take BS from people...

 
Anyway.. for those who read my story, tell me this.

- How do you deal with the accusations of juice ? The stereotyping ?

.. it's been a long time since anyone accused me of juice, and once I was bigger (@250 + lbs) I thought, yeah, I guess I understand because I'm looking humongous, but f*ck them .. Whereas NOW, I'm lean, mean @ 226 lbs, I'm busting my f*cking ass to get the results I'm getting, and to have someone LABEL me like that, drawing conclusion before even talking to me, not giving me the benefit of the doubt . . made me want to tear heads off !

When someone asks me politely, "Do you take steroids?" And I say, "No, I don't." And then they are cool about it and say something to the effect of, "Oh, okay. I was just wondering because you look so big and solid. That's cool you put in all that effort." Then that's totally fine with me. I'm not one to ask people simply because I know better. First of all, I know the rules of the BBing world, secondly I can tell if they do or not, but I understand some people just don't know that stuff.

However, if someone flat-out accuses me of steroid use and says how I have to be on steroids or even saying how the only reason I'm big is because of all the supplements I take, that REALLY pisses me off. I get very irate. I usually take a deep breath, and politely ask them to change the subject or cease the conversation. I just can't handle it. And then when they start warning me the dangers of steroid use, i.e. the myths, e.g. shrinks your penis, gives you roid-rage, etc., I get very frustrated. I don't know why, but it always bothers me even more coming from women. There is something about the way they speak to me that really chaps my hide. It's like they are speaking down at me, like I'm lesser of a person. When guys do it, it's much less berating.
 
First of all, I'm glad you found your dog. You had me going there for a while. I love my dog like he's my son!! So I felt your fear and dread. Now for the smart-ass bitch: She needs a good beating. For real. We can't do that though. Her mom and dad should have done that when she was younger. Too late now. Try to let it go. I take those remarks as compliments. It means that I must look a little above average to warrant those kind of statements. I sent my most recent photos to some of my old work out partners that I haven't seen in over 3 years. A friend of mine took them into where they work. I used to work there as well. Anyway, they look at the photos, and instead of saying that I look good or that I must be very dedicated now, they say, "Damn!! He's juicing hard isn't he?!!" At first I got hurt, then mad, and then finally rewarded. I know they are simply jealous they they don't have the motivation nor disclipline to make the improvements that I have in this last year. Fuck them!! Friends?! BAH. You're doing great viking. You are an inspiration to lots of us here. You have an incredible physique. Keep hammering my brutha!!
 
Anyway.. for those who read my story, tell me this.

- How do you deal with the accusations of juice ? The stereotyping ?

.. it's been a long time since anyone accused me of juice, and once I was bigger (@250 + lbs) I thought, yeah, I guess I understand because I'm looking humongous, but f*ck them .. Whereas NOW, I'm lean, mean @ 226 lbs, I'm busting my f*cking ass to get the results I'm getting, and to have someone LABEL me like that, drawing conclusion before even talking to me, not giving me the benefit of the doubt . . made me want to tear heads off !

I think because I know I so don't look like someone who juices, because when I think of someone who juices, they're HUUUUGE, veiny and the muscles are exaggerated, that I just think it's silly. I may have my moments where I get slightly offended that someone has overlooked my hard work for a short cut, but usually, I take it as a silly comment.

The only friends I know that are on juice are 250-260lbs, so to me, it's awfully silly when I'm accused of being on steroids.
 
Okay, first of all bro, reps on the RIPS! :cool:

Secondly, dude, we'll always have uneducated ppl assuming we're juicing, happens to me like every day. I get so sick of the question (or accusation). I know some guys consider it a compliment, but I personally am offended by it. It's old news to me tho, you get used to it. And if someone doesn't believe you, well.. does it really matter? If I get any gruff back from someone after I tell them I'm natty, like they don't believe me, I tell them look, I don't even know you, so why do you think I'd find you important enough to lie to? We've turned into a society of haters, where no one is willing to believe hard work & smart supplementation can lead to these results -- because they don't have the drive or willpower to do it themselves, so everyone who does has to be cheating somehow.
 
Hey guys im back, took a mini break, how are you viking? Here is a link to my new log, il try and be around much more often just been a very busy week.
Hows recovery and training going brother?

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Waiting for your support!!!!
 
Oh fellas, it was the scariest $hit I've ever encountered ! I was in such disbelief as I ran up to this dead dog. What the f*ck are the odds of there being a dead dog in the middle of the night 50 yards away from my buddy's house? Damn, it was too much! I'd kill to protect my dog; he IS my son ! Sitting here thinking of what happened gives me the goosebumps. Reviewing the scene of running up to this dog puts this pressure in the middle of my chest. It was just too real. I am so unbelievably appreciative of my dog being ok !
 
Thats when you straight tell them that they are just jealous they dont have the natural talent and drive to get off their lazy ass to do the same then continue with whatever applicable label or derogatory comment of an appropriate degree for that very same person....

In this case I would let her know shes just jealous shes never had a man like you and you and your nordic D!ck would break her in two, now have a nice day and enjoy being a classless slut. :D

I have NO sympathy for people like this.

I get the questions and "accusations" all the time at my community service I attend ED... most the time its guys who just start by asking me for lifting advice, almost everyone has, and eventually pop the question if I juice. I tech DO with our designer steroids, but like hell Im going to feed their stereotypical ideas on the subject and inform them no I bust my ass and actually I consider it an insult for someone to say that, this usually makes them sheepish and they stop buggin me altogether.

On the other hand this fat ass (lie easy over 320 and not even 6') black dude straight, loud mouth mother F*cker who is derogatory to EVERYONE always talking about some sick **** like dogs ****ing people and hounding every female in there about what their favorite positions are so he has cannon fodder for his spank it sessions, straight up refers to me as "STEROIDS", always like "DAMN steroids your veins be poppin out!" n **** like that. I politely informed him one time (as this was back on Prime even so I hadnt cycled in a year) that I supplement but am natural, then hes like "oh but you take dat protein dont you".....

This just set me off, what an ignorant fcuk trying to make it sound like some crazy outlandish thing to take in more protein... I then went off sounding as smart as possible railing his ass about how much meat does he eat each day, how many hamburgers and what not, let him know thats what the protein is for and is to just make it so I dont have to eat so much meat. then tell him Im tired of his fat ****ing insecure ass always putting me on spot and its obvious hes just jealous of what Ive worked so hard for while hes been busy feeding his face with candy (which he brings a shitload of to work Ed, along with cakes and donuts) and that he needs to get educated, get fit and get a clue or he wont have to wait for a heart attack to put him in his place, insinuating Id do it for him. this was in front of everyone had him lookin stupid and pissed at the same time and most the ladies and some of my buddies were trying their hardest not to laugh chuckling under their breath.


He hasnt said sh!t to me since.


again I think its all in the context of the question on how it should be handled but sounding smart and eloquent as possible while reaming someone a new one is the most degrading thing you can ever do to someone, so dont get pissed, just get even.

this biatch had alot more comin then you gave her, wish I was there.
 
Okay, first of all bro, reps on the RIPS! :cool:

Secondly, dude, we'll always have uneducated ppl assuming we're juicing, happens to me like every day. I get so sick of the question (or accusation). I know some guys consider it a compliment, but I personally am offended by it. It's old news to me tho, you get used to it. And if someone doesn't believe you, well.. does it really matter? If I get any gruff back from someone after I tell them I'm natty, like they don't believe me, I tell them look, I don't even know you, so why do you think I'd find you important enough to lie to? We've turned into a society of haters, where no one is willing to believe hard work & smart supplementation can lead to these results -- because they don't have the drive or willpower to do it themselves, so everyone who does has to be cheating somehow.

That is exactly it. See, this group of buddies I'm around, they look at me as an inspiration. They call me to ask when I'm gonna be at the gym, what to take, how to train, how to eat. I know how to eat, train, supplement, and I know how to do this naturally . . I steer people away from juice, and tell them I know better natural alternatives. I'd rather spend some time helping people get down a good routine and get a sense of a healthy diet and good training protocol than I'd spend it instructing them on how to take a pro-hormone, or even worse, juice . .

.. and buddies, if they're real buddies, they'll trust you and believe what you're saying, and many already know how uch dedication you put in - many of my buds know how I eat, train, etc .. - so when it's coming from these unknowing dumb c*nts, it's just even more a slap, because they're wanting to talk you down, they're wanting to label you, for no good reason. I just don't see how it makes them feel superior, or feel anything .. If I see a girl with a tit job, I won't run up to her and ask, nor imply, that they're fake. It's disrespectful, bottom line, so question is, when you meet new people, everyone knows first impressions are important, then what f*cking purpose does it serve to attempt to step on someone? .. it's a hypothetical question, of course, but it's been a long time since a female frowned on me like that, and I didn't take it nicely, although it could've been much, much, much worse !
 
That is exactly it. See, this group of buddies I'm around, they look at me as an inspiration. They call me to ask when I'm gonna be at the gym, what to take, how to train, how to eat. I know how to eat, train, supplement, and I know how to do this naturally . . I steer people away from juice, and tell them I know better natural alternatives. I'd rather spend some time helping people get down a good routine and get a sense of a healthy diet and good training protocol than I'd spend it instructing them on how to take a pro-hormone, or even worse, juice . .

.. and buddies, if they're real buddies, they'll trust you and believe what you're saying, and many already know how uch dedication you put in - many of my buds know how I eat, train, etc .. - so when it's coming from these unknowing dumb c*nts, it's just even more a slap, because they're wanting to talk you down, they're wanting to label you, for no good reason. I just don't see how it makes them feel superior, or feel anything .. If I see a girl with a tit job, I won't run up to her and ask, nor imply, that they're fake. It's disrespectful, bottom line, so question is, when you meet new people, everyone knows first impressions are important, then what f*cking purpose does it serve to attempt to step on someone? .. it's a hypothetical question, of course, but it's been a long time since a female frowned on me like that, and I didn't take it nicely, although it could've been much, much, much worse !

Timberlaker would have backed you up, you know he's down for the Ike Turner.
 
I just wish I knew a different language so I could curse dumb b1tches out to there faces! lol That was great man! Whatever though don't worry about people accusing you they are just haters!
 
I appreciate all the comments here, fellas ! It's great to hear others understanding of the issue .. being 'labeled' or 'stereotyped' will trigger different reactions depending on the situation, but when it's blatantly disrespectful like last night few people can withstand voicing their insulted selves .. myself included . . I spoke with my buddy this morning, and he literally apologized for having them there, he just knew one of them - the blonde, HOT one who I knew from before - so we was real apologetic of the outcome. I appreciate finding out that my reaction was logical, expected, and others would've done the same thing.


.. Hman, my second lingo has helped me out more than once before ! lol
 
I like how you brought up the breast implant thing. It's not like we rush up to chicks we just meet and say, "Oh my gosh, did you get a boob job?! That's so fake... Those can burst and you can die from it leaking!"

It's so retarted. Why do people ever think it's okay to say these things to us? I will never understand.
 
Timberlaker would have backed you up, you know he's down for the Ike Turner.
That's for sure! I wouldn't hit a female myself, but I'd sure hold that stupid bitch for T-Lake to hit her!! :toofunny:
 
I like how you brought up the breast implant thing. It's not like we rush up to chicks we just meet and say, "Oh my gosh, did you get a boob job?! That's so fake... Those can burst and you can die from it leaking!"

It's so retarted. Why do people ever think it's okay to say these things to us? I will never understand.
Because they weren't raised properly by good strict parents like I had. And maybe, just maybe if by chance they were, then yeah they must be retarded!!
 
yo viking.... did you take a peek at the list of testers for Xdreams yet...:D

:jaw:

. . . Norwegian's finally gonna get his sleep on !!!

Thanks a lot pooopy and the rest of the IBE crew !!!
 
That's for sure! I wouldn't hit a female myself, but I'd sure hold that stupid bitch for T-Lake to hit her!! :toofunny:

Hahahaha, that cracked me up goooood !!!!
 
Gotta rehash the protein review for a minute.. buddy just set me up with a tub of the new Monster Milk, choco flavor.. not too bad, the chocolate is a decent taste. Profile on this stuff is hella strong..early thumbs up. Price might be an issue tho..
 
Gotta rehash the protein review for a minute.. buddy just set me up with a tub of the new Monster Milk, choco flavor.. not too bad, the chocolate is a decent taste. Profile on this stuff is hella strong..early thumbs up. Price might be an issue tho..

Awesome, please continue sharing those first impressions on new products !

I heard that the flavor was the issue relating to Monster Milk . . it's not a true Muscle Milk-hybrid as it didn't bring with it all of the Muscle Milk flavor . . the deliciousness . . but the profile, rock solid, imo, as well !
 
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