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DCP Water retention...

Xenabuffyfan

Xenabuffyfan

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Just got off a cut of high dosing DCP (12 tabs day),VPX meltdown, and supercissus. I finished the cycle last Thursday (Friday no supps). The water retention was creeping on slowly as the cycle wore on but now its as if since stopping it hit hard. I'm extremely bloated still and its the following Thursday. I have been eating very clean since ceasing the products, so it's not post diet issue.
I know TTA products cause water retention due to Ion channels and what not being messed up, but when can I expect to see it go away? I have read for the people who did melting point in the past that it was usually 7-10 days, but its been close to 7 days of being supplement free and I am still holding a ton of both sub-q water and bloat?

Anybody here have to wait longer? Or is there anything I can do to "expedite" the process?
 
Xenabuffyfan said:
Just got off a cut of high dosing DCP (12 tabs day),VPX meltdown, and supercissus. I finished the cycle last Thursday (Friday no supps). The water retention was creeping on slowly as the cycle wore on but now its as if since stopping it hit hard. I'm extremely bloated still and its the following Thursday. I have been eating very clean since ceasing the products, so it's not post diet issue.
I know TTA products cause water retention due to Ion channels and what not being messed up, but when can I expect to see it go away? I have read for the people who did melting point in the past that it was usually 7-10 days, but its been close to 7 days of being supplement free and I am still holding a ton of both sub-q water and bloat?

Anybody here have to wait longer? Or is there anything I can do to "expedite" the process?
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This has been reported in some users. It should diurese off (or be expelled from interstitial spaces in between cells) in up to 7 -10 days time in some people.

I would give it a few more days here. Make sure to keep you sodium levels in check as well. I can assure you once that sub-q water is expelled, all your new found cuts will shine on through. :)

I did a post on one of the mechanisms that attribute to the bloat, but i can't find it. I'll link it when i do.
 
Thanks Trauma!
Yeah I had seen from users who used TTA products such as DCP and numerous others, that water retention was a side effect. In fact when dosed high, I saw people reporting MAJOR water, ie what I have lol.

I was concerned because drop off of water weight hasn't even STARTED lol. I'm still holding. Keeping sodium low, and drinking lots of water...
I know that DCP works, but man this edema's a pain.

In your experience Trauma, does this drop in water that users report seem to happen very suddenly or gradually? Because if it's gradual then....hehe...no good news for me lol.
 
Xenabuffyfan said:
Thanks Trauma!
Yeah I had seen from users who used TTA products such as DCP and numerous others, that water retention was a side effect. In fact when dosed high, I saw people reporting MAJOR water, ie what I have lol.

I was concerned because drop off of water weight hasn't even STARTED lol. I'm still holding. Keeping sodium low, and drinking lots of water...
I know that DCP works, but man this edema's a pain.

In your experience Trauma, does this drop in water that users report seem to happen very suddenly or gradually? Because if it's gradual then....hehe...no good news for me lol.
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Definitely a gradual process. It will come off faster for some than others. Some factors such as total dosing utilized, and total length taken can also influence this to a degree.

You're doing the right thing.....lower sodium, and keep your fluid intake high. Your body will take care of the rest, and then you can reap the benefits. ;)
 
Have any of you tried using 50mg of B6 twice a day to drop the water? IF it is water it will be expelled quickly that way. I however have had no water retention from DCP.
 
How are your potassium and b6 intakes?

You were taking, via DCP, quite a hefty load of potassium at that dose. Abruptly ceasing will throw off osmolyte/electrolyte balance, possibly contributing to edema.
 
I'll try utilizing the Pott/B6, however reading the boards here seems to show for most people that helped with cramping but (the potassium) but not with the retention.

From what I seem to be finding on TTA users in general, high doses can temporarily "mess up" the ion channels which is what causes the water retention, even with DCP's superior formula (it still has TTA after all).

Let's not forget I was dosing it (like most users) at above the stated dose. 12 caps a day of DCP, gave me 1500mg, and who knows how much Meltdown's proprietary blend contains (I called, they didn't have a number).

Average dosage probably only would've given me a little water, but this dose is what has me like a blowfish.

dsade said:
How are your potassium and b6 intakes?

You were taking, via DCP, quite a hefty load of potassium at that dose. Abruptly ceasing will throw off osmolyte/electrolyte balance, possibly contributing to edema.
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From the study above, I found this quote...

"Electrolyte and water balance, plasma volume, hematocrit, and interstitial fluid volume were measured. Compared with vehicle treated control rats, rats treated with PPAR-gamma activator showed a sustained increase in electrolyte and water retention, ultimately resulting in a 6% increase in plasma volume and a 6% decrease in hematocrit. In addition, there was a 50% increase in interstitial fluid volume, correlating to an edematous state.

These results indicate that daily treatment with a PPAR-gamma activator caused sustained fluid retention and development of edema. As noted in the background section above, this PPAR-gamma activator effect has also been observed in human clinical studies."

Thanks to some research, I have found many correlating studies due to PPAR gamma activation.

Now TTA tends to only MILDLY stimulate the gamma receptor but at the high doses I was employing, (and others do) the stimulation could cause severe water retention.

I'll see if I can find any research pointing to the time frame of the lasting of these effects.
 
Found another

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"Recent studies establish a role for PPARγ in renal sodium reabsorption, providing a mechanism for the plasma volume expansion induced by these drugs."
 
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