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The "New" Ergopharm 1-AD ????

soldier0213

soldier0213

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I have just stumbled across the re do of the old product that I loved way back when...1-AD. Is this really the same as the old one or??? I see that they are using the precursor for the active conversion, but can anyone vouch, or add some insight on this newer product?? Also, what would this new formula stack well with like the old one did with 4-AD. I know that 1,4 BOLD would prob do the trick but to run it adequate doses is fairly costly. lol

THANKS!!!!
 
I am very interested in knowing anything about the new 1-AD

But, yes it should convert to the same thing as the old one and stack with 4-AD.
 
I haven't seen too much feedback on it since he put it on his site. Pat said it would be ~75-95% as good as the old version.

I don't know much aside from that.
 
futurepilot said:
the ingredients are DHEA and 1-androsterone, nothing to get excited about.
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Yea but it will convert as mentioned to 75-even 90% as good as the old one. If this is the case so what we just run it at minimally higher dose and POOF, there you go! The same OL'good 1-AD !!!!
 
soldier0213 said:
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Yea but it will convert as mentioned to 75-even 90% as good as the old one. If this is the case so what we just run it at minimally higher dose and POOF, there you go! The same OL'good 1-AD !!!!
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Its the same as good old AMS 1-androsterone.
 
I havent heard anything good or bad from the AMS variant. I DO KNOW THOUGH that the old Ergopharm 1-AD was the BOMB!
 
I haven't used it but every log I read starts off great and then goes downhill towards the end
 
Primordial has the DHEA + 1AD in a transdermal now called 1-T.
 
noobster said:
All I know is that according to PA a new version is supposed to come out sometime in December.
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+1

PA says it will be something totally new, better than any other previous version of 1-AD and related with 1-testosterone. He named it "1-AD v4"

v1: 1-Androstenedione (2001, Original 1-AD, banned)
v2: 1-Androstenediol (banned)
v3: 1-Androstenolone, a precursor of both, 1-Androstenedione and 1-Androstenediol (legal, but sold out)
v4: ???? (December 2008)

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sp447 said:
I haven't used it but every log I read starts off great and then goes downhill towards the end
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Going bad towards the end meaning results tapering or bad sides??? I couldnt find any logs with the new 1-AD . Can you shoot me a few ?
 
From what I Have read the new 1ad was pretty unimpressive. Had to be dosed really high and its quite expensive too. Better off w/ something else. Hopefully the new 1-t from PP will work better but only time will tell.
 
Yeah, I am waiting and hoping the PP 1-T rocks the house.
 
crazilyfter42 said:
From what I Have read the new 1ad was pretty unimpressive. Had to be dosed really high and its quite expensive too. Better off w/ something else. Hopefully the new 1-t from PP will work better but only time will tell.
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Some guys said that, but i haven't read any logs about v3 saying it don't get gains.

Anyway, v3 is sold-out and v4 its comming with a totaly new formulation.
 
Jberto,

I think you are right. Hopefully V4 will be pretty good. I liked stacking 1,4 BOLD with Epi but it gets costly to run the 1,4 at the right doses.
 
JBerto said:
Some guys said that, but i haven't read any logs about v3 saying it don't get gains.

Anyway, v3 is sold-out and v4 its comming with a totaly new formulation.
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I wasn't implying that it didn't provide any gains what so ever. Just saying that the cost of it is not worth the moderate gains it provides. There are much cheaper compounds that provide much better results. I'm looking forward to the new formation. Hopefully it will be something like the "old" 1-androstenediol, which is still my fav oral.
 
soldier0213 said:
Going bad towards the end meaning results tapering or bad sides??? I couldnt find any logs with the new 1-AD . Can you shoot me a few ?
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Bad Sides. I remember reading one where some guy got some nasty rash towards the end.

I'll try to find a few
 
soldier0213 said:
Thanks SP, It will be interesting to see what the V4 users report
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Yeah from what I've gathered from reading bits and pieces of logs, users of the new formula (Androstenolone) had increased muscle fullness, minimal muscle (weight) gain of anywhere between 2-4lbs, burning sensation when urinating (common with the original 1-AD), some oily skin, acne, and a few reports of rashes over the chest and arm area.
 
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