Why can't you stack AI w/ DTH or DT?

[gymdevil25]

I just want to say I have used Diesel Test before and it is by far the best nat. test booster I have used yet. I really want to try the DTH and DT stack. I was thinking of adding formestane in the equation towards the end of the stack. My question...why doesn't formestane work well with these products. I was reading some posts and Chuck advised not to use an AI like formestane with DTH or DT but he did state you could use 6-oxo. Second, if you can use 6-oxo with them, can you use novedex-xt instead?

 

[gymdevil25]

awesome.

 

[TripDog]

I just want to say I have used Diesel Test before and it is by far the best nat. test booster I have used yet. I really want to try the DTH and DT stack. I was thinking of adding formestane in the equation towards the end of the stack. My question...why doesn't formestane work well with these products. I was reading some posts and Chuck advised not to use an AI like formestane with DTH or DT but he did state you could use 6-oxo. Second, if you can use 6-oxo with them, can you use novedex-xt instead?

I personally have used trans derm formestane and liked it. It is considered a mild anabolic, and will cause supression to the body. I dont see a huge problem with using something like 6 oxo, or nolvadex xt. I can't speak for chuck on all acounts but thats my take due to my personal experience. Good luck and have fun bro.

 

[Chuck Diesel]

I just want to say I have used Diesel Test before and it is by far the best nat. test booster I have used yet. I really want to try the DTH and DT stack. I was thinking of adding formestane in the equation towards the end of the stack. My question...why doesn't formestane work well with these products. I was reading some posts and Chuck advised not to use an AI like formestane with DTH or DT but he did state you could use 6-oxo. Second, if you can use 6-oxo with them, can you use novedex-xt instead?

Most users dont see good results with DTH and anything not "natural." Its like the AI shuts down the natural effects of DTH. I rec. with 6-oxo because everyone that stacks DTH with 6-oxo love it. I have seen people like DTH with an AI during PCT, but not just "normal" usage.

 

[Delita420]

Most users dont see good results with DTH and anything not "natural." Its like the AI shuts down the natural effects of DTH. I rec. with 6-oxo because everyone that stacks DTH with 6-oxo love it. I have seen people like DTH with an AI during PCT, but not just "normal" usage.

So I shouldn't use DTH in PCT? I will be running iForce Reversitol in my PCT.

 

[Chuck Diesel]

So I shouldn't use DTH in PCT? I will be running iForce Reversitol in my PCT.

DTH is good for PCT and has shown many times with lab results and in logs to get ur HTPA back to normal fast. Resveratrol wont have any affect on ur HTPA.

 

[Delita420]

DTH is good for PCT and has shown many times with lab results and in logs to get ur HTPA back to normal fast. Resveratrol wont have any affect on ur HTPA.

iForce Reversitol contains ATD as one of the active ingredients. ATD addresses the androgenic feedback loop. ATD has 90% androgenic activity in muscle tissue but only 10% androgenic activity in the hypothalamus.

ATD works for androgen activity the same way that tamoxifen works for estrogen. Tamoxifen blocks estrogen in breast tissue, but has positive effects in other tissue such as liver and bone. ATD blocks androgens in the hypothalamus, but allows it to be active in other tissue.

Because of this dual action estrogen levels are lowered while testosterone levels begin to rise. This is because ATD tricks your hypothalamus into thinking testosterone levels are low so it produces more. ATD provides benefits far beyond simply controlling estrogen in your body. Through its control over the androgen negative feedback loop testosterone production is restarted much faster. And the faster you recover your natural testosterone production the easier it is to keep muscular gains.

 

[Chuck Diesel]

iForce Reversitol .

read what u quoted from me.

 

[Delita420]

This is my original post.

So I shouldn't use DTH in PCT? I will be running iForce Reversitol in my PCT.

This is how you responded to my post.

DTH is good for PCT and has shown many times with lab results and in logs to get ur HTPA back to normal fast. Resveratrol wont have any affect on ur HTPA.

Do you plan on being sneaky and dodging my original question? You talk about one ingredient of the iForce Reversitol, and act like I never mentioned Reversitol in the first place. You totally disreguard the fact that I told you the specific product I was using. You tell me your product is going to do what I want and that a certain ingredient will not do what I want. Random facts are a poor substitute for an educated response. I suggest you reread the entire thread, because you are throwing out random bits of information in a poor attempt to promote your product. Chuck, please answer my original question. I only sought your advice because I thought you would have some answers.

 

[1HP]

Delita,

If you want an answer for using iForce Reversitol in combination with DTH list it's ingredients like in the bottom of this post. I would assume its one of the many standard resversatrol products aswell.

If you do some research you will findout that Chuck recommends NOT using ATD with DTH, if you insist on additional estro control upon what DTH does 6-oxo is recommended.

Resversatrol as a serm substitute you can again search the boards for and you can stack it with DTH, as with about any other test booster.



iForce Reversitol:

Supplement Facts
Serving Size 1 Capsule
Servings Per Container 60

Amount Per Serving % Daily Value

Estrogen Modulation Matrix (EMM) 124 mg *

6-Bromoandrostenedione

ATD 6-Etioallochol-1,4-Diene-3,17-Dione

Indole-3-Carbinol (I3C)

S.E.R.M. Matrix 500 mg *

Trans-Resveratrol

Eurycoma Longifolia

 

[CopyCat]

Ding Ding Ding

:nutkick:

 

[Delita420]

Delita,

If you want an answer for using iForce Reversitol in combination with DTH list it's ingredients like in the bottom of this post. I would assume its one of the many standard resversatrol products aswell.

If you do some research you will findout that Chuck recommends NOT using ATD with DTH, if you insist on additional estro control upon what DTH does 6-oxo is recommended.

Resversatrol as a serm substitute you can again search the boards for and you can stack it with DTH, as with about any other test booster.



iForce Reversitol:

Supplement Facts
Serving Size 1 Capsule
Servings Per Container 60

Amount Per Serving % Daily Value

Estrogen Modulation Matrix (EMM) 124 mg *

6-Bromoandrostenedione

ATD 6-Etioallochol-1,4-Diene-3,17-Dione

Indole-3-Carbinol (I3C)

S.E.R.M. Matrix 500 mg *

Trans-Resveratrol

Eurycoma Longifolia

I guess I won't be purchasing DTH, because I already own the Reversitol. Don't assume what a supplement may or may not be, assumptions are for the weak. Do the research, buddy.

 

[TripDog]

I guess I won't be purchasing DTH, because I already own the Reversitol. Don't assume what a supplement may or may not be, assumptions are for the weak. Do the research, buddy.

Have a nice day then.....

 

[Chuck Diesel]

This is my original post.


This is how you responded to my post.


Do you plan on being sneaky and dodging my original question? You talk about one ingredient of the iForce Reversitol, and act like I never mentioned Reversitol in the first place. You totally disreguard the fact that I told you the specific product I was using. You tell me your product is going to do what I want and that a certain ingredient will not do what I want. Random facts are a poor substitute for an educated response. I suggest you reread the entire thread, because you are throwing out random bits of information in a poor attempt to promote your product. Chuck, please answer my original question. I only sought your advice because I thought you would have some answers.

Dodging? Im not dodging sht. Obviously u havent even read the DTH write up (asking about using it for PCT). U have Reversitol, u plan on using it during ur PCT, i dont understand why you asking a question about DTH during PCT.

I dont do attempts to promote GET DIESEL products, poor or good, and FYI u ask this question in the GET DIESEL section of AM in a DTH thread. I suggest u realize what u are asking and read the write up on DTH. U using reserverawhatever has nothing to do with this thread or this section of the AM forum.

 

[TripDog]

Dodging? Im not dodging sht. Obviously u havent even read the DTH write up (asking about using it for PCT). U have Reversitol, u plan on using it during ur PCT, i dont understand why you asking a question about DTH during PCT.

I dont do attempts to promote GET DIESEL products, poor or good, and FYI u ask this question in the GET DIESEL section of AM in a DTH thread. I suggest u realize what u are asking and read the write up on DTH. U using reserverawhatever has nothing to do with this thread or this section of the AM forum.

:goodpost:

 

[Delita420]

Dodging? Im not dodging sht. Obviously u havent even read the DTH write up (asking about using it for PCT). U have Reversitol, u plan on using it during ur PCT, i dont understand why you asking a question about DTH during PCT.

I dont do attempts to promote GET DIESEL products, poor or good, and FYI u ask this question in the GET DIESEL section of AM in a DTH thread. I suggest u realize what u are asking and read the write up on DTH. U using reserverawhatever has nothing to do with this thread or this section of the AM forum.

Guess I should ask someone other than Chuck about Get Diesel products... You know, because you aren't willing to provide any info.

 

[subweevil]

Dodging? Im not dodging sht. Obviously u havent even read the DTH write up (asking about using it for PCT). U have Reversitol, u plan on using it during ur PCT, i dont understand why you asking a question about DTH during PCT.

I dont do attempts to promote GET DIESEL products, poor or good, and FYI u ask this question in the GET DIESEL section of AM in a DTH thread. I suggest u realize what u are asking and read the write up on DTH. U using reserverawhatever has nothing to do with this thread or this section of the AM forum.

:goodpost: +2

 

[1HP]

I guess I won't be purchasing DTH, because I already own the Reversitol. Don't assume what a supplement may or may not be, assumptions are for the weak. Do the research, buddy.

I actually did the research, as I posted the supplement facts on that iforce product you want to use.

If you want a straight answer, post the supplement fact and ask chuck if it would be wise to take those together.

Me personally would take DTH and take a different resversatrol product, like pp sustain alpha, or bulk resversatrol from nutraplanet.

There is no competition for DTH.

 

[Delita420]

I actually did the research, as I posted the supplement facts on that iforce product you want to use.

If you want a straight answer, post the supplement fact and ask chuck if it would be wise to take those together.

Me personally would take DTH and take a different resversatrol product, like pp sustain alpha, or bulk resversatrol from nutraplanet.

There is no competition for DTH.

My own urine is a better supplement than DTH! :numbered:

 

[1HP]

My own urine is a better supplement than DTH! :numbered:

Intelligent post.

 

[Delita420]

Intelligent post.

Many nutrients can be obtained by drinking urine.

Among the various Siberian peoples who use Amanita muscaria as a cultural norm, there exists a curious practice whereby the urine of one who has consumed the mushroom is drunk by another who consequently becomes inebriated. The urine of this person may then be drunk by another and so on, the procedure being repeated up to five or six times. The reason for this practice is that A. muscaria contains ibotenic acid which, when the carboxyl radical is removed from the molecule, yields the psychoactive molecule muscimole. The metabolic process of decarboxylation which effects this transformation within the user's liver is very inefficient. In fact, it is so inefficient that approximately 85% of the ibotenic acid ingested (more than enough to inebriate further users) passes through the body unchanged and is excreted in the urine. To put it another way, the urine contains more than five times as much of the drug as the body can assimilate.

What is urine therapy?
Urine therapy entails using your own urine externally or internally as a way to promote or maintain good health. Sometimes when all else fails, urine therapy will turn a patient around. The first question that probably comes to mind is whether urine is a toxic substance and how a waste product already excreted from the body can be of any benefit for your health. Urine is NOT a toxic waste product, claim urine therapy practitioners. They cite that 95 per cent of urine is water, 2.5 per cent consists of urea and the remaining 2.5 per cent is a mixture of minerals, salt, hormones and enzymes.

 

[Chuck Diesel]

My own urine is a better supplement than DTH! :numbered:

A GET DIESEL customer usually say dumb stuff like this, so ok, ur right, drink ur Urine.

 

[Delita420]

A GET DIESEL customer usually say dumb stuff like this, so ok, ur right, drink ur Urine.

You're saying that GET DIESEL customers are dumb? Haha, way to reach out to your consumers! :rofl:

 

[CopyCat]

Many nutrients can be obtained by drinking urine.

Among the various Siberian peoples who use Amanita muscaria as a cultural norm, there exists a curious practice whereby the urine of one who has consumed the mushroom is drunk by another who consequently becomes inebriated. The urine of this person may then be drunk by another and so on, the procedure being repeated up to five or six times. The reason for this practice is that A. muscaria contains ibotenic acid which, when the carboxyl radical is removed from the molecule, yields the psychoactive molecule muscimole. The metabolic process of decarboxylation which effects this transformation within the user's liver is very inefficient. In fact, it is so inefficient that approximately 85% of the ibotenic acid ingested (more than enough to inebriate further users) passes through the body unchanged and is excreted in the urine. To put it another way, the urine contains more than five times as much of the drug as the body can assimilate.

What is urine therapy?
Urine therapy entails using your own urine externally or internally as a way to promote or maintain good health. Sometimes when all else fails, urine therapy will turn a patient around. The first question that probably comes to mind is whether urine is a toxic substance and how a waste product already excreted from the body can be of any benefit for your health. Urine is NOT a toxic waste product, claim urine therapy practitioners. They cite that 95 per cent of urine is water, 2.5 per cent consists of urea and the remaining 2.5 per cent is a mixture of minerals, salt, hormones and enzymes.

Way to copy and paste there buddy.

 

[subweevil]

All I have to say is "Piss off!!":rofl:

Way to Troll there little trooper.










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[ari4216]

just for a comment

im taking DTH during the week, and on workout days i take hyperdrol x2/activate extreme, pre workout with great results.

But if i took full doses of DTH,AX, and HDX, id go mental. The DTH by itself kind makes me irratible by itself.

 

[Delita420]

just for a comment

im taking DTH during the week, and on workout days i take hyperdrol x2/activate extreme, pre workout with great results.

But if i took full doses of DTH,AX, and HDX, id go mental. The DTH by itself kind makes me irratible by itself.

Do you feel like the testosterone boosting herbs help with libido and cause aggression without helping to add any muscle? That's always been my experience with them, although I've never tried a well rounded herbal product like DTH.

 

[1HP]

Do you feel like the testosterone boosting herbs help with libido and cause aggression without helping to add any muscle? That's always been my experience with them, although I've never tried a well rounded herbal product like DTH.

oh man lol

 

[subweevil]

Wow, every time I come back to this thread hoping to find something evenly remotely insightful, I find myself completely underwhlemed.

Do you feel like the testosterone boosting herbs help with libido and cause aggression without helping to add any muscle?

When you elevate test by ANY means, be it HERBAL or OTHERWISE, you will reap the rewards, if you train and eat right. Good day sir.

 

[1HP]

Wow, every time I come back to this thread hoping to find something evenly remotely insightful, I find myself completely underwhlemed.

When you elevate test by ANY means, be it HERBAL or OTHERWISE, you will reap the rewards, if you train and eat right. Good day sir.

There's no way higher test/free test levels build more muscle then lower test levels sub, DIDNT YOU KNOW THAT!!! :donut:

 

[Delita420]

Wow, every time I come back to this thread hoping to find something evenly remotely insightful, I find myself completely underwhlemed.



When you elevate test by ANY means, be it HERBAL or OTHERWISE, you will reap the rewards, if you train and eat right. Good day sir.

The mechanisms of action for most herbs are unkown. There is very little science behind the use of herbs. Anything is possible.

 

[1HP]

The mechanisms of action for most herbs are unkown. There is very little science behind the use of herbs. Anything is possible.

Ahh I already wondered how I suddenly grew an extra nose on my left butt cheek.

 

[Delita420]

Ahh I already wondered how I suddenly grew an extra nose on my left butt cheek.

That's the result of a DNA mutagen... Google it!