Prime/Sustain/Anabolic Edge/divanex Log

Last night was chest/tri's/abs

Workout was a normal one. Nothing spectacular. Pumps felt pretty normal. strength was normal. Still nothing going on as far as prime goes. As for the Anabolic Edge and the Divanex my libido has stayed at a good level. Random wood throughout the day. As for the prime it doesn't seem to work for me.
 
Thursday was shoulders/traps/calves

Workout was good. Didn't feel any extra strength or crazy pumps in the gym. Damn i'm really disappointed so far with this product at least i can get my money back. Starting Monday I will up the dose to 9 caps ed and see if anything changes.
 
joeymutz said:
Thursday was shoulders/traps/calves

Workout was good. Didn't feel any extra strength or crazy pumps in the gym. Damn i'm really disappointed so far with this product at least i can get my money back. Starting Monday I will up the dose to 9 caps ed and see if anything changes.
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are you talking about Prime?
 
I seem to be a similar responder to prime. I think I should have just upped the caps to 8 a day maybe. Because the first two weeks seemed quite nice. then after that it stayed pretty normal. As far as strength. not much happened in that department for me.
 
Friday- Legs/arms/abs

Workout was normal for legs. I seemed t be able to lift a little more weight with my bis and tri's. My muscle seemed more full and the pumps were a little better.

I am upping my intake to 8 pills ed. Hopefully i will see some results with a higher dose.
 
Monday- Back/bi's/abs

Finally i had a really good workout last night i finally feel like i'm actually taking a supplement that i can feel. Strength was up a little bit nothing crazy but reps were easier. Pumps were great and i had more energy throughout my workout. This product still doesn't come close to the hype that was surrounding it but maybe it takes my body longer to start feeling anything I guess we'll find out in the up coming weeks. Right now i would compare this to taking RPM. That's about it.

Today will be Chest/Tri's/Calves. I can always judge my strength increase best when doing chest so hopefully strength is up on my lifts tonight.
 
Had another good workout last night. Pumps were great, workout was smooth, strength seemed up a little also.
I noticed that I'm beginning to sweat more also while working out. I'm looking fuller and will weight myself tomorrow night to see what i gained. I def added some fat I'd say about 3lbs around the waist which sux but my diet hasn't been real strict I'm just making sure i get in all the protein i need. I'll do a cut when i feel its necessary.

I will not be running the max out. I've decide to give 1-t a run when it comes out. So my prime will be close to being finished by then and i will hop on 1-t for 4 weeks to see what kind of results i get.
 
nah that's dermacine. Sustain alpha is a test booster. It works well for about a week then the libido increase levels off. I would recommend to anyone around my age that wants a libido boost to cycle 1 week on 1 week off.
 
workout last night was good. Hit shoulders/Traps/Abs. My strength felt like it was up a little bit, pump was good. I was very hungry yesterday also which i liked. Still nothing spectacular.

For the record I have been consistent in the gym for the past 5 yrs. I know what supplements work for me and which ones do not. So far For me prime is not worth the money. I feel like al ot of the users gaining 10 lbs and what not have either not been training very hard previously or didn't have there diet in check. I've been eating the same for the past 2 months and training the same also. Prime does not compare to any PH/DS that i have ever taken, even the mildest of them such as 11oxo. I would much rather buy 2 bottles of 11oxo for $70 then buy Prime again. I'm very disappointed thus far.
 
joeymutz said:
workout last night was good. Hit shoulders/Traps/Abs. My strength felt like it was up a little bit, pump was good. I was very hungry yesterday also which i liked. Still nothing spectacular.

For the record I have been consistent in the gym for the past 5 yrs. I know what supplements work for me and which ones do not. So far For me prime is not worth the money. I feel like al ot of the users gaining 10 lbs and what not have either not been training very hard previously or didn't have there diet in check. I've been eating the same for the past 2 months and training the same also. Prime does not compare to any PH/DS that i have ever taken, even the mildest of them such as 11oxo. I would much rather buy 2 bottles of 11oxo for $70 then buy Prime again. I'm very disappointed thus far.
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interesting news, i guess ill not log prime to test its validity, i just wanted to get of the bottom, if prime worked or not.
 
joeymutz said:
workout last night was good. Hit shoulders/Traps/Abs. My strength felt like it was up a little bit, pump was good. I was very hungry yesterday also which i liked. Still nothing spectacular.

For the record I have been consistent in the gym for the past 5 yrs. I know what supplements work for me and which ones do not. So far For me prime is not worth the money. I feel like al ot of the users gaining 10 lbs and what not have either not been training very hard previously or didn't have there diet in check. I've been eating the same for the past 2 months and training the same also. Prime does not compare to any PH/DS that i have ever taken, even the mildest of them such as 11oxo. I would much rather buy 2 bottles of 11oxo for $70 then buy Prime again. I'm very disappointed thus far.
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I am sorry that Prime does not work well for you but don't say that the others don't know what they're doing I have a guy with 35 years under his belt and placed 3rd at the world championship that is doing very well on prime. I trained a 20 year old and monitored his every move and he did very, very well on Prime. I know that it works and works very well I have 20 years experience and have placed 2nd at a National level. So your 5 year does not look that impressive. If Prime doesn't work well for me then I will not say it is no good because I know it is. Some get more out of certain herbals than others. I don't respond to creatine but that does not mean creatine is no good. I understand your bitter, and I feel for you I really do but don't bash others experiences. Some of these guys are much more experienced than you are.
 
DreamWeaver said:
I am sorry that Prime does not work well for you but don't say that the others don't know what they're doing I have a guy with 35 years under his belt and placed 3rd at the world championship that is doing very well on prime. I trained a 20 year old and monitored his every move and he did very, very well on Prime. I know that it works and works very well I have 20 years experience and have placed 2nd at a National level. So your 5 year does not look that impressive. If Prime doesn't work well for me then I will not say it is no good because I know it is. Some get more out of certain herbals than others. I don't respond to creatine but that does not mean creatine is no good. I understand your bitter, and I feel for you I really do but don't bash others experiences. Some of these guys are much more experienced than you are.
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Whoah bro. This is what i wrote: "I feel like a lot of the users gaining 10 lbs and what not have either not been training very hard previously or didn't have there diet in check. I never said that all the others don't know what they are doing but i do think a lot of them didn't have there diet previously in check. Sorry my 5 yrs experience isn't impressive to you but for someone my age i think it shows a lot of dedication. I was comparing myself to the younger less experienced guys that are running prime. By the time I'm your age i will have over 30 yrs experience. I'm actually a little surprised that you would shoot down the experience that I have. I started working out at 117lbs and in 2 yrs worked my way up to 177lbs. That's pretty impressive if you ask me. I'm 165lbs now with around the same body fat i had when i was 18. So about 50lbs of muscle in less then 5 yrs is pretty impressive without pinning anything. I understand how much u love your prime I'm just giving others users a heads up that They are better off trying something else. I give nothing but honest feedback I would hope that you would respect that.
 
ari4216 said:
by the way what u experience on 11-oxo, any sides?
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11 oxo was great. I really didnt have any sides. I ran it twice the first time 3 caps ed for 3 weeks no sides. The 2nd time was 9 caps everyday but that was after a tbol cycle and i was shut down so i can't say if that would shut you down or not but i'm assuming that it would my joints very feeling a little dry also. 2 bottles for $70 will get you lean and vasular and strength will increase it's great for recomp.

I used transdermal 6oxo and that was awesome too. You can get bulk trione powder for cheap like 3 bucks a gram plus some penetrate for 12 bucks. so for less then 30 bucks you can run the 6oxo for 6 weeks and have gains that would blow prime out of the water. The only side i experienced was sore joints that could have been from the 8 weeks of tbol +4 weeks 11oxo . I will definitely be running this in the near future again.

My favorite thus far though is tbol, the pumps u get are ridiculous, and on a cut i packed on 5lbs of muscle.
 
joeymutz said:
Whoah bro. This is what i wrote: "I feel like a lot of the users gaining 10 lbs and what not have either not been training very hard previously or didn't have there diet in check. I never said that all the others don't know what they are doing but i do think a lot of them didn't have there diet previously in check. Sorry my 5 yrs experience isn't impressive to you but for someone my age i think it shows a lot of dedication. I was comparing myself to the younger less experienced guys that are running prime. By the time I'm your age i will have over 30 yrs experience. I'm actually a little surprised that you would shoot down the experience that I have. I started working out at 117lbs and in 2 yrs worked my way up to 177lbs. That's pretty impressive if you ask me. I'm 165lbs now with around the same body fat i had when i was 18. So about 50lbs of muscle in less then 5 yrs is pretty impressive without pinning anything. I understand how much u love your prime I'm just giving others users a heads up that They are better off trying something else. I give nothing but honest feedback I would hope that you would respect that.
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I'm not shooting down your experience I apologize for the misunderstanding but you are stating because it works for others they must be doing something wrong... this is just not the case. I don't disprespect you or your experience I just thought you were disrespecting others. I mean that's what it sounds like.

Honest feedback is one thing, but just tell others what it did or did not do for you don't presume what it does for others. I don't Love prime yet but I do like it so far I would have to put it on par with something like drive, if it gets better it gets better... who knows. It's still worth the 30 bucks I payed for it.

Like I said I feel for you I know I would have been really disappointed if I had that happen to me after all the excitement.

50 lbs in 2 years is awsome progress, did you do this all naturally.
 
gotcha, I'm not trying to disrespect anyone at all. I have yet to call out any single individual yet on there diet and training. I just want people who are following my log to know that some of these people gaining 7-10 lbs may have been out of the gym for a little while and due to muscle memory, a good diet, and good training that could be why they are gaining weight. Maybe this does work for some people. I trust someone like shaddow so i believe that this is doing something for him, same as steveoph. The others i'm not so sure about. It's important to know how there diet, training, and supplementation have been previously to taking prime. I'm just finding it hard to believe that there are NON- repsonders out there. I've never not respolnded to taking any PH/DS. I would hate to see someone like myself who has been lifting consistently for a few yrs to think that they don't have to dabble into pro hormones anymore because this innovatine product came out and yet 5 weeks in theres really nothing to show. Glad i only paid $60 as opposed to $110.

2 bottles of hdrol is $50
1 bottle tormeifene(the best i think for recovering) $40

I personally don't use support supps. The only ones i would say that are really needed is something for blood pressure if you have that issue. so 1 bottle of hawthrone berry maybe $5

sides from hdrol is really just being shutdown. Gains anywhere from 5-15lbs with a nice recomp to it. I just can't justify risking $110 for something that may or may not work. A cycle of hdrol for 6 weeks will work 99.9% of the time.

Basically what i'm saying is USP labs should have never even used prime and steroids in the same sentence. Like i've stated earlier the pics of people i have seen on prime all look fatter myself included. That is not the case(at least for me) when running something such as Hdrol which in my opinion has very little sides. If you hate having no libido, just run proviron which is relatively cheap. you may be shut down but at least you still want to bang.
 
Well steroids are hormones herbals are not some are sensitive and some aren't. Hormones are not a hit and miss thing but still there is different levels of response.

Funny you should mention Hdrol, I did the original Halodrol and liked it but I fully expect that Prime will be a bit better or about the same. I gain about 6 to 8 lbs on a Halodrol 30 day cycle with some strength gain but not as much as some are reporting on Prime. I can't comment on anything else as my experience with steroids is very minimal. I am already a big fella so there never was much of a need for that kind of thing. I use herbs for recomp as I like staying strong while i lose fat. Getting lean used to be such a drag before the herbals started getting better that's why I uses Halodrol but now I fell there is no need.
 
sorry guys but I'm done posting in this thread. I've been off everything but prime and divanex for the last 2 weeks. my results:


NOTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Prime is a total waste of money. Eat raw eggs it's works a lot better than prime.

As for the sustain with the divanex seemed to give a nice libido boost and better overall mood.

As for the anabolic edge i'm not sure if it did anything either.
 
sucks bro. glad to know the outcome though. prime was more of a hardner/pump workout for me. I seemed to consider it no different than some diesel supps. The marketing on prime is what has made users disapointed! I wouldn't mine using it again, but for the price i think i could go with some DTH. Thanks!
 
Too bad Joey it just works better for some than others. I am really getting good results so far as are many others. I really believe that most people will get excellent results on this product and for some reason some may not, I don't know why.
 
yeah i'm amazed that other users are getting some good results and some of the user's are credible too so it must work for some.

My opinion is if you want to use a non hormonal product and get great results try transdermal 6-oxo.

Best pre workout supp I've used is RPM.
 
I like E-Form, I still have more than two bottles and I use 100mg on workout days so a bottle lasts for months and the low dosage lets me run it as a staple. I take a week off when I am not lifting too. It works great.

I have never had to use anything pre workout, once I get my feet on the rubber mat I am ready to go. I am sensitive to stims anyway. My problem has always been to curb the enthusiasm I was always pushing so hard. I guess that's how I got injured, I didn't listen to my body.
 
joeymutz said:
Best pre workout supp I've used is RPM.
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Just so happened that today was the first day that I ever tried RPM. and I must say OMG. within 20min. i could feel it come over me. a sense of light footed. alert and eager to do any task at hand. I only took 2 also. I bought it for a buddy and we popped them at the same time. my high lasted from 10:45 till around 5:00. no lie I will be getting some in the future. even if I don't use it for a pre-workout supp. I will use it when my mood and energy are down. AWESOME STUFF MAN THAT GAVE IMMEDIATE RESULTS REALLY FAST.
 
RPM is the only herbal supplement that I've ever felt working. I'm going to have to order another bottle of this stuff.
 
DreamWeaver said:
I like E-Form, I still have more than two bottles and I use 100mg on workout days so a bottle lasts for months and the low dosage lets me run it as a staple. I take a week off when I am not lifting too. It works great.

I have never had to use anything pre workout, once I get my feet on the rubber mat I am ready to go. I am sensitive to stims anyway. My problem has always been to curb the enthusiasm I was always pushing so hard. I guess that's how I got injured, I didn't listen to my body.
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I haven't used any type of formestane yet. I'll probably try some in the future though I've heard good things about it.
 
I don't know how well it works for younger guys but it sure does it's job for us older guys, really seems to turn back the clock. Supressing estrogen seems to do a lot for men my age the key is to not supress it too much.
 
DreamWeaver said:
I don't know how well it works for younger guys but it sure does it's job for us older guys, really seems to turn back the clock. Supressing estrogen seems to do a lot for men my age the key is to not supress it too much.
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True I've learned this from experience. I suppressed my estrogen too much and my knees where killing me. I realized how important estrogen is. I'm not prone to gyno but i did have a little scare beforewith some rebound estrogen but i immediately solved the problem with some letro i had on hand. Estrogen has a big part to do with libido as well so it's just as important to have your estrogen levels in check as you would your test levels.
 
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