REVERSE: Reversing Negatives and Counter-Reversing Positives (IBE-Sponsored)

strategicmove said:
Wisdom and knowledge are infinite. No matter how much we know today, and no matter how wise we are today, there is always a next (higher) step. So, if we are open to knowledge and wisdom, we can always expand our limits! :D
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Well... you got me on philosophy.

But I have a bigger.... ummmmm... liver!!! :D

Adams
 
DAdams91982 said:
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But I have a bigger.... ummmmm... liver!!! :D
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Hmmmmmm...Try Milk Thistle Extract preferably standardized to Silymarin, Silibinin and Isosilybin B. :D





J/K :)
 
I have to say it again, this is one of the most scientifically interesting logs I've ever read. Good stuff Strat!!!!
 
strategicmove said:
The only drawback resveratrol possesses is poor oral bioavailability. The (preferably simultaneous) consumption of Bioperine/Piperine, Grapeseed Extract, Quercetin, Naringin/Dihydroxybergamottin has been shown to address this challenge to an extent.

In principle, one can build a complex stack around REVERSE, if one wishes to. Yet, more may not necessarily be better. Grape seed extract and REVERSE share some properties, so stacking them may enhance those benefits. Resveratrol appears to stimulate endogenous SOD production, but probably not as concentrated as straight GliSODin supplementation. Adding an anti-oxidant such as Noxidant to REVERSE will certainly produce enhanced benefits.

If I were to create a REVERSE stack, I might consider the following additions: 1) Rhodiola Rosea; 2) Fo-Ti or Jiaogulan; 3) Grape seed extract or Pycnogenol; 4) Green Tea Extract; 5) Ashwagandha or Amla. This way, one or two capsules of REVERSE per day would suffice. There are, of course, several variations and options, including the combination of REVERSE with an existing anti-oxidant complex such as Noxidant.
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I am currently taking USPLabs SirPLus (got that from Australia whilst waiting for IBE Reverse from NP).

SirPLUS is a blend 750mg:
Turmeric (95% curcuminoids)
Resveratrol (100 mg trans-resv)
Piperine

Taking this 3x/day
Morning : with grapefruit (naringin :D) + Rhodiola + Astaxanthin (antiox) + Supercissus RX

Afternoon (pre-workout): Rhodiola, CLA, Q10 + Antiox formula containing (grapeseed extract + green tea + gingko + citrus bioflav + betacarotene + ginseng + milk thistle) …. talking about an antiox boost :rofl:

Night : Supercissus + CLA​

One of the most profound effects was on sleep quality, I’ve been seriously worried that I’ll need to get myself some horse tranquilizers to be able to sleep. Resveratrol kicked in there from the first day of use. Couldn’t believe it !!!!! :woohoo:
Inability to fall asleep and poor sleep quality have been my major setbacks for as long as I can remember. Hope this only continues :thumbsup:
I’m curious to see how IBE will compare to SirPlus !

Sorry for hijacking your thread Strat, just wanted to share the experience :)
 
dragonfly said:
I am currently taking USPLabs SirPLus (got that from Australia whilst waiting for IBE Reverse from NP).

SirPLUS is a blend 750mg:
Turmeric (95% curcuminoids)
Resveratrol (100 mg trans-resv)
Piperine

Taking this 3x/day
Morning : with grapefruit (naringin :D) + Rhodiola + Astaxanthin (antiox) + Supercissus RX

Afternoon (pre-workout): Rhodiola, CLA, Q10 + Antiox formula containing (grapeseed extract + green tea + gingko + citrus bioflav + betacarotene + ginseng + milk thistle) …. talking about an antiox boost :rofl:

Night : Supercissus + CLA​

One of the most profound effects was on sleep quality, I’ve been seriously worried that I’ll need to get myself some horse tranquilizers to be able to sleep. Resveratrol kicked in there from the first day of use. Couldn’t believe it !!!!! :woohoo:
Inability to fall asleep and poor sleep quality have been my major setbacks for as long as I can remember. Hope this only continues :thumbsup:
I’m curious to see how IBE will compare to SirPlus !

Sorry for hijacking your thread Strat, just wanted to share the experience :)
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No apologies warranted, bud! You did not hijack my thread. As a matter of fact, it was a fitting contribution. Furthermore, it is quite interesting how similar your stack is to my suggestion for a REVERSE stack. Quite interesting! An awesome stack you have there, by the way!
 
strategicmove said:
No apologies warranted, bud! You did not hijack my thread. As a matter of fact, it was a fitting contribution. Furthermore, it is quite interesting how similar your stack is to my suggestion for a REVERSE stack. Quite interesting! An awesome stack you have there, by the way!
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Thanks Strat, and yes, the stack is working wonders ! :box:
 
strategicmove said:
No apologies warranted, bud! You did not hijack my thread. As a matter of fact, it was a fitting contribution. Furthermore, it is quite interesting how similar your stack is to my suggestion for a REVERSE stack. Quite interesting! An awesome stack you have there, by the way!
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hey strat, i think bud is female.:rofl:
 
DAdams91982 said:
What... bud can't mean female? :rofl:

Strat you old salty dog you.

Adams
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Of salty dogs and salted dogs!

Bud is female? You must be pulling my legs. I only innocently used the harmless short-form of buddy! :D

Or do you guys mean dragonfly? If yes, and if dragonfly is female, then my apologies! The bud reference was misplaced!
 
strategicmove said:
Of salty dogs and salted dogs!

Bud is female? You must be pulling my legs. I only innocently used the harmless short-form of buddy! :D

Or do you guys mean dragonfly? If yes, and if dragonfly is female, then my apologies! The bud reference was misplaced!
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If that's her in the avatar,she's hawt!:box:
 
strategicmove said:
Of salty dogs and salted dogs!

Bud is female? You must be pulling my legs. I only innocently used the harmless short-form of buddy! :D

Or do you guys mean dragonfly? If yes, and if dragonfly is female, then my apologies! The bud reference was misplaced!
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Yes, most definitely A FEMALE and a DRAGONFLY because these are INSECTS WITH GREAT ANABOLIC POTENTIAL.
Now, I wouldn’t want to clutter your log with pictures of DRAGONs, there is already too much of that in my log :lol: (Adams can testify :D)

Side note: It would be worse to assume I was a female if in reality I was a male “hiding” under a female’s avatar :rofl:
 
dragonfly said:
Yes, most definitely A FEMALE and a DRAGONFLY because these are INSECTS WITH GREAT ANABOLIC POTENTIAL.
Now, I wouldn’t want to clutter your log with pictures of DRAGONs, there is already too much of that in my log :lol: (Adams can testify :D)

Side note: It would be worse to assume I was a female if in reality I was a male “hiding” under a female’s avatar :rofl:
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Cheers! :)
 
I just want to thank Strategicmove for turning me on to this supplement! After 7 days of using Reverse 1 cap,3 times a day,I've experienced more energy,deeper sleep,enhanced feeling of well being overall. My vascularity seems to be better also. I'm thinking about getting some extra shilajit and adding that in. I'll be using Reverse as long as it's available,forever I hope!
 
eros62d said:
I just want to thank Strategicmove for turning me on to this supplement! After 7 days of using Reverse 1 cap,3 times a day,I've experienced more energy,deeper sleep,enhanced feeling of well being overall. My vascularity seems to be better also. I'm thinking about getting some extra shilajit and adding that in. I'll be using Reverse as long as it's available,forever I hope!
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Sounds good! IBE deserves all the recognition! :D
 
Final Update and Concluding Remarks



First of all, my apologies for the delay in updating the last two days of this log. I had no internet connection in between Friday, October 31st and this morning! :frustrate:

Now to the last update:

October 27, 2008 - October 28, 2008
Days 24 - 25
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Results:

The last two days were essentially a continuation of beneficial results in vasodilation/vascularity, physical and mental strength and endurance, sustained robust immune response, stable feelings of well-being, and sound rest and recovery. Frankly, I did not expect this depth in the benefits of REVERSE in only 25 days, and would not be surprised, if the results are elevated and sustained mid-term, and even, long-term.

Overall Rating:

For all intents and purposes, I will rate REVERSE on the basis of my experience with it during this log. I cannot credibly speculate on long-term results, as that would depend on daily dosage regimes and cycling habits. In any case, based on a scale of 1-10 (the larger the better), I would suggest the following:

Vasodilation/Vascularity (and implied benefit on cardiovascular function and endothelial-wall integrity): 9

Immune defence and anti-oxidant action: 9

Strength and endurance (and beneficial impact on cardiovascular and mitochondrial action): 9
It is useful to recall that elevation of mitochondrial action is usually accompanied by increased generation of free-radicals. This is one important benefit of REVERSE: it improves mitochondrial action and also doubles as a free-radical quencher!

Feelings of well-being and enhanced cognitive function and perception: 8 (dose-dependent)

Sleep/Recovery: 9 (dose-dependent)

Others (libido/cosmetic quality of skin/visual function and perception): 8 (dose-dependent)


Concluding remarks:

I would like to thank IBE, once again, for the opportunity to test (and log) REVERSE. It was a rich experience overall. If I were to use this product again, I would front-load it at three or four capsules in the first two weeks and then drop to a maintenance dosage of one to two capsules daily. It is worth every cent you invest in it, and every minute you stay on it! Enjoy! :cheers:​
 
1HP said:
Damn you got all those effects from 25 days? Unreal.. Sounds like a killer..
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One important point about resveratrol is its bioavailability. If one is able to ensure enhanced cellular bioavailability of the compound, the benefits can be prompt. The particular form of resveratrol used in REVERSE ensures superior absorption and bioavailability, helping to produce the desired benefits faster. Besides, the results are also dose-dependent. Someone dosing REVERSE at one capsule per day may have a different experience than another dosing at three capsules daily. :)
 
strategicmove said:


First of all, my apologies for the delay in updating the last two days of this log. I had no internet connection in between Friday, October 31st and this morning! :frustrate:

Now to the last update:

October 27, 2008 - October 28, 2008
Days 24 - 25
​

Results:

The last two days were essentially a continuation of beneficial results in vasodilation/vascularity, physical and mental strength and endurance, sustained robust immune response, stable feelings of well-being, and sound rest and recovery. Frankly, I did not expect this depth in the benefits of REVERSE in only 25 days, and would not be surprised, if the results are elevated and sustained mid-term, and even, long-term.

Overall Rating:

For all intents and purposes, I will rate REVERSE on the basis of my experience with it during this log. I cannot credibly speculate on long-term results, as that would depend on daily dosage regimes and cycling habits. In any case, based on a scale of 1-10 (the larger the better), I would suggest the following:

Vasodilation/Vascularity (and implied benefit on cardiovascular function and endothelial-wall integrity): 9

Immune defence and anti-oxidant action: 9

Strength and endurance (and beneficial impact on cardiovascular and mitochondrial action): 9
It is useful to recall that elevation of mitochondrial action is usually accompanied by increased generation of free-radicals. This is one important benefit of REVERSE: it improves mitochondrial action and also doubles as a free-radical quencher!

Feelings of well-being and enhanced cognitive function and perception: 8 (dose-dependent)

Sleep/Recovery: 9 (dose-dependent)

Others (libido/cosmetic quality of skin/visual function and perception): 8 (dose-dependent)


Concluding remarks:

I would like to thank IBE, once again, for the opportunity to test (and log) REVERSE. It was a rich experience overall. If I were to use this product again, I would front-load it at three or four capsules in the first two weeks and then drop to a maintenance dosage of one to two capsules daily. It is worth every cent you invest in it, and every minute you stay on it! Enjoy! :cheers:​
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Great log bro, really enjoyed it, and great results, looks like a top product!!!!

Russian

BBII
 
russianstar said:
Great log bro, really enjoyed it, and great results, looks like a top product!!!!

Russian

BBII
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Thanks, Russian! Yes, definitely a top product. :)
 
I'm glad this has worked for you, Ike.
My Reverse journey started this morning; hopefully, I will feel the results that you have.

Great log, as usual!
 
Iron Lungz said:
I'm glad this has worked for you, Ike.
My Reverse journey started this morning; hopefully, I will feel the results that you have.

Great log, as usual!
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Thanks, Iron! Have fun on your REVERSE ride. And mind the dosage! Some promptly-occurring benefits may be dose-dependent. :D
 
I'm wondering about sustained effects after dosing say a one month run equals 3 weeks of benefits after you come off?

...it may be a struggle to keep this on hand full time in terms of years being available.

this seriously needs to show up on retail shelves just as palmetto, fenugreek, hawthorn, etc ... it should be available for years just as the above mentioned.

I would love to see this in walgreens and walmart.
 
hardknock said:
I'm wondering about sustained effects after dosing say a one month run equals 3 weeks of benefits after you come off?
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Some of the benefits would last longer (via optimized cellular processes)...
 
Hey Strat,

Ordered this for my father (62 years old):

6 x Reverse (60 Capsules)
By: IBE
$42.95 $257.70

He's currently on pp Sustain alpha.

Will let you know how he likes it!!
 
1HP said:
Hey Strat,

Ordered this for my father (62 years old):

6 x Reverse (60 Capsules)
By: IBE
$42.95 $257.70

He's currently on pp Sustain alpha.

Will let you know how he likes it!!
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Wow! Sounds great! How would he dose the REVERSE?
 
strategicmove said:
Wow! Sounds great! How would he dose the REVERSE?
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Well I'm not sure yet. The Sustain alpha is treating him well, he notices increased energy, increased feelings of well-being and he thinks his eyesight and hearing has improved. He also has less trouble focusing on reading large texts.

I actually have no idea what a comparable dose of the resversatrol in Reverse would be next to the Sustain Alpha.

If you have any recommendations I would be glad to hear them :-)
 
I'm currently considering 4 caps a day for the first bottle, and 2 caps a day for the remaining 5 bottles..
 
1HP said:
I'm currently considering 4 caps a day for the first bottle, and 2 caps a day for the remaining 5 bottles..
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This sounds good. An alternative approach would be to have him take four capsules daily for the first bottle, three capsules daily for the second, before dropping to two per day from the third bottle onwards. This approach tapers the dosing better and probably allows better maintenance of the active levels of the compound longer. Just an opinion.
 
Iron Lungz said:
Damn!
I see that now. Well, he can still log his father's impression. :D
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No doubt! A surrogate type of log! Why not? :)

Happy Thanksgiving, Iron! And do not forget your Renegade! :D
 
strategicmove said:
No doubt! A surrogate type of log! Why not? :)

Happy Thanksgiving, Iron! And do not forget your Renegade! :D
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LOL, I will share his impressions on how he feels in this log if thats okay with you Strat? Also on how he feels on this compared to sustain alpha. Will be just 2 or 3 posts..
 
1HP said:
LOL, I will share his impressions on how he feels in this log if thats okay with you Strat? Also on how he feels on this compared to sustain alpha. Will be just 2 or 3 posts..
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That would do nicely! :cheers:
 
1HP said:
Kay :)

BTW I like your approach on 4-3-2-2-2-2 caps on the bottles, will do just that.
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Kay :)
I'm sure he'll get a lot out of REVERSE. :thumbsup:
 
1HP said:
LOL, I will share his impressions on how he feels in this log if thats okay with you Strat? Also on how he feels on this compared to sustain alpha. Will be just 2 or 3 posts..
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Promised an update on how my 62 year old father feels on Reverse vs Sustain Alpha.

He finished his first bottle dosing 2 caps AM and 2 caps before sleep.

Reverse had a slight sedating effect at start, influencing his driving capabilities and speed of thought. This seems to be going away now.

Feelings of well being are quite similar, he feels the same on Sustain Alpha as on Reverse, reported effects are more energy during the day, he gets more done, is more motivated to do stuff. He also reports increased stamina during sporting activities. He reports he feels his vision and hearing has improved, the volume on which he listened to music and the original volume setting on his television is now annoying to him. All these effects are the same for him for Sustain Alpha and Reverse.

He will do another bottle of reverse and then switch to Sustain Alpha to see if he feels different.

He does report he feels the effects are becoming increasingly less strong so I advised him to switch to 5 days on 2 days off and if that doiesnt help take a week or so off and restart and go 5 on 2 off from the go.
 
Thanks for the update! :thumbsup:
 
Reversing Negatives and Counter-Reversing Positives (IBE-Sponsored)
What does that mean ? I think it means reversing negatives therefore that becomes a positive : counter reversing positives means reversing positives therefore that becomes a negative and to counter that it becomes a positive - talk about goobledegook

Also independent study please on this product
 
strategicmove said:
Thanks for the update! :thumbsup:
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man, missed this one again, I got to come to this side of the boards more times, anyway great log as always SM, I really would love to try reverse , I hope it come to Europe soon cause import to my country is crazy, with taxes and shipping I would pay more than 150usd for 1 bottle:fool2:
 
corsaking; said:
Reversing Negatives and Counter-Reversing Positives (IBE-Sponsored)
What does that mean ? I think it means reversing negatives therefore that becomes a positive : counter reversing positives means reversing positives therefore that becomes a negative and to counter that it becomes a positive - talk about goobledegook ....
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You got it!
 
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