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Before & after blood tests from a superdrol cycle

Hey Eric I had blood work done a few weeks ago after a cycle i ran and after my pct. I posted the results up here. I will get more blood work done next week around the 2 and 1/2 week mark of being on sustain. I will post the results Here if you would like.

I'm not trying to step on anyones toes such as live wire but to come on here and give Eric **** for some of the best non hormonal products on the market Then ask for free **** just rubs me the wrong way especially when you have only been a member here for 2 months. I will gladly post my results so we can see how well it also works for someone who is fairly young for free just because I believe people should be aware of these products and the fact that they work very well.
 
joeymutz said:
why should PP have to sponsor another log? I've never read a bad review of his products. Anyone who has been on this site for the last year knows that his stuff works great. I'm currently running his product and started my log yesterday (unsponsored) along with some other supplements but for the past 10 days i've only been on sustain Alpha and the libido boost and just feeling great is all there. This products shows it can work for someone who is young and has normal test range. It has a number of reasons for why it can be used and holds up to every claim they've made.
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Read the whole thread before u make a comment!!

U just added to my point, u said "it proves it can work for someone who is young"..well jumpy this aint about young people, we're talking about a 40yr old and a 31yr old.

So again read the thread first and dont piss me off again!!:smite:
 
yes but it has been proven over an over for people your age. Go to M&M and look over there. Eric already gave out 100 samples and some people wrote there reviews over there. Mostly older people.
 
joeymutz said:
Hey Eric I had blood work done a few weeks ago after a cycle i ran and after my pct. I posted the results up here. I will get more blood work done next week around the 2 and 1/2 week mark of being on sustain. I will post the results Here if you would like.

I'm not trying to step on anyones toes such as live wire but to come on here and give Eric **** for some of the best non hormonal products on the market Then ask for free **** just rubs me the wrong way especially when you have only been a member here for 2 months. I will gladly post my results so we can see how well it also works for someone who is fairly young for free just because I believe people should be aware of these products and the fact that they work very well.
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The whole point is to see if it works for us older Gents.

I know ur not trying to step on toes, I just want to see how effective a PCT it is for older gents.

I dont care if they sponsor me or not, i can buy the products just like everyone else, thats not the point here.
 
joeymutz said:
yes but it has been proven over an over for people your age. Go to M&M and look over there. Eric already gave out 100 samples and some people wrote there reviews over there. Mostly older people.
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Cool..Thx for the info, ill check it out, even though that place gets my blood boiling.lol
 
Actually Joey if I can just use ur avi during my PCT, that might get things jump started! Wow, holy butt cheeks on her, is that Victoria
 
Mind and Muscle. A lot of very intelligent people over there. Mostly drama free, great community of people there. Oh and no thats Jamie Eason. Yes thats a libido boost in itself.
 
if I can garner the time, ill run sustain-toco 8 and post before and after bloodwork...
 
LiveWire224 said:
Yes, blood work will be done by me, before and after cycle.
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If you want to run a Primordial only PCT, get your own before & after blood work done, and agree to post results up we would be willing to provide the product.

Shoot me a PM if you’re interested.

Thanks to everyone for your support.

-Pp
 
Both eric's, nice work here. :D

Sustain WILL be in my next pct for certain.
 
EasyEJL said:
Freedom of speech gives you the right to say that, but just the same the results are accurate. Is it possible that my test levels pre-cycle were suppressed due to my extreme obesity and alchoholism for the prior 10 years? possible for sure. a year prior to that cycle, I was somwhere over 50% bf, and on average probably had 4-5 alchoholic drinks a day, and had been that way since my late 20s, with 0 for exercise beyond occasionally walking the dogs. another tidbit related was that pre-cycle my cholesterol level as at 127 or so (can't recall precisely, under 130) and post cycle was in the 170s. serum cholesterol level affects testosterone level, as pregnenelone is made from cholesterol, dhea is made from pregnenelone, and then test made from the dhea....

I dont see anyone making a claim of "anyone can double their testosterone levels post cycle", but this is good evidence that there should be no problem on sustain + toco-8 returning your test levels to your pre-cycle levels, whatever they were.
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u were in that bad of shape and an alcoholic and you jump right into steroids... some pretty potent ones at that, then you take a little break and going on more? i feel bad for your balls and your cholesterol and your liver. it's good to be skinny but not if u increase your chance of dying by rediculously raising cholesterol levels and taxing an already very strained liver. not to be a jerk but it's people like you that give steroids and supplements a bad name
 
jsp0785 said:
u were in that bad of shape and an alcoholic and you jump right into steroids... some pretty potent ones at that, then you take a little break and going on more? i feel bad for your balls and your cholesterol and your liver. it's good to be skinny but not if u increase your chance of dying by rediculously raising cholesterol levels and taxing an already very strained liver. not to be a jerk but it's people like you that give steroids and supplements a bad name
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I had stopped drinking almost a year, and was in much better shape by the point I did the cycle, having lost around 40-50lbs of fat while gaining some muscle. But the combination of the two over a long span of time was likely why my test was so low. It doesn't necessarily spring back after 10-15 years like that.
 
EasyEJL said:
I had stopped drinking almost a year, and was in much better shape by the point I did the cycle, having lost around 40-50lbs of fat while gaining some muscle. But the combination of the two over a long span of time was likely why my test was so low. It doesn't necessarily spring back after 10-15 years like that.
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exactly it doesn't spring back right away so why take steroids in aweful shape to supress it even more and take the chance of it never coming back? u shouldn't be using steroids as a quick fix. try running ephedrine first not something that will screw up your lipid profile as bad as superdrol not top of that ur staying on roids for over 6 weeks. u should have been running the sustain alpha and toco 8 as a natural product to help you in your goals that way you'd be in better shape before going into steroid use. u said you're doing another cycle... how many have you done, what type and how long where they and what are you planning to do next with how much of a break inbetween. mulletsoldier was right for verbally abusing you during you're cycle. he's very knowledgeable and you should probably listen to him.
 
I had been testing in "candidate for TRT" range for the last 8 years. Frankly the thought of it coming back afterwards wasn't particularly important as my doctors never suggested it could. Its logged here somewhere on AM, and I spoke about that at the beginning over a year ago I think.
 
EasyEJL said:
I had been testing in "candidate for TRT" range for the last 8 years. Frankly the thought of it coming back afterwards wasn't particularly important as my doctors never suggested it could. Its logged here somewhere on AM, and I spoke about that at the beginning over a year ago I think.
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so jump right into roids and make it worse? doesn't sound like a very good idea. if u were going to do that why not go into something like one of the tren products, or 3-ad, 11-oxo, or even epistane/havoc. there were much better choices than 1-test an superdrol for a first time stack especially at that length. those roids focus more on cutting than getting bigger which would help you in your goals more. but to each there own i guess. good luck and you better keep your cholesteral checked while you're doing all of this. what kind of support supps are u taking?
 
jsp0785 said:
so jump right into roids and make it worse? doesn't sound like a very good idea. if u were going to do that why not go into something like one of the tren products, or 3-ad, 11-oxo, or even epistane/havoc. there were much better choices than 1-test an superdrol for a first time stack especially at that length. those roids focus more on cutting than getting bigger which would help you in your goals more. but to each there own i guess. good luck and you better keep your cholesteral checked while you're doing all of this. what kind of support supps are u taking?
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I'm still not sure where "jump right on roids" comes from, and 1-test for that length is moderately normal. not M1T, non-methylated 1-t. 1-t without taking 4ad with it is more of a cutter than a bulker, so i'm not sure what you are thinking in saying its a bulker. Its a very dry lean compound.

This was all a year ago as well, its not something ongoing. during it I took cycle support and kept a close eye on blood pressure (have a cuff at the house) and kept an eye out for other sides, but experienced none. blood pressure didn't go up by more than 10pts at anytime during the cycle.
 
Doesn't really mean anything to me. Get his levels checked again in 6 weeks of no supplementation. If you use a serm for PCT your test is probably going to sky rocket, but then come back down after.
 
MuscleBound1337 said:
Doesn't really mean anything to me. Get his levels checked again in 6 weeks of no supplementation. If you use a serm for PCT your test is probably going to sky rocket, but then come back down after.
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The test was done 30 days after the PCT, and they were still elevated.

-Eric
 
I may consider using the Sustain alpha + Toco-8 as part of my PCT when I run my first cycle soon. Will be keeping an eye on this for sure :)
 
WilteredFire said:
I may consider using the Sustain alpha + Toco-8 as part of my PCT when I run my first cycle soon. Will be keeping an eye on this for sure :)
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Yeah, and if there is a reliable looking member that wants to run the full testosterone recovery stack (Sustain, Toco-8, EndoAmp) for PCT, we will provide before cycle, and after PCT blood tests.

-Eric
 
The new Oral Sustain Alpha Liqua-Vade is here -

Lasts 30 days (2x doses per day) and is upto 3x stronger than the previous topical version.

-Eric
 
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