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Are your balls Diesel? Diesel Test Hardcore/Sunami libido/strength Log.

Thanks for clarifying that Chuck, I appreciate it. Was going to ask you that later today, but now I don't have to. Thought about the cortisol, but completetly forgot about the dopamine, doh!!
 
subweevil said:
Yeah, I was hoping to feel more aggressive on this stack, never tried the old DTH. Everything is going well, just wouldn't mind not feeling so mellow. People are noticing that I seem "Happier" and that's gotta stop, lol.
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Yeah I still think it's the pregnolone in the Sunami causing this!! But the happiness is quite cool actually I think, not a care in the world baby :D
 
Chuck Diesel said:
well u just started the stack, and thats part of the product droping Cortisol. Usually the aggression comes with more free test which comes overtime. You can drop cortisol way faster than u can increase free test to an "aggressive" state.

I remember when I first started DT back in 05 I was mellow for like a month then got aggression from the product after that. Im not saying u will feel that way but im sure its from Cortisol going down and dopamine going up on the front end of the stack.
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Oh I just missed this post haha, ok chuck, I'll keep it at 3 DTH and 3 Sunami for a while then, first see how that will play out.

Btw, I dropped 0.2" on my waist, I always lose water on DT, also more oily foreskin now. And balls are bigger so, it's working obviously..

I have to say though, I do really feel awesome at this point, just really very very happy.. I wonder what I would actually prefer, the agression or this state of happiness, no worry in the world..
 
It's funny, kinda clues people in that "I'm on something" seeing as how I'm happy now with no worries. Ig I was still the same angry subweevil, wouldn't be a problem, and it's not really a problem anyways. Just now, I can tolerate someone screaming in a road rage at me and smile back, laughing all the while.
 
LOL! Laughing at a guy screaming at you :)

Day 6:

2/1/1 DTH and 1/1/1 Sunami as of today

I'll update weight and measurements tonight, always weigh in same time at the gym.

Forgot to mention before:

1HP said:
Oh yeah, I noticed the increased appetite aswell, last 2 nights I ate large bowls of pasta instead of chicken/broccoli lol..
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Cool, then again, I'm always eating it seems. I just couldn't help but laugh at the guy. I live in a college town where nobody knows how to use a crosswalk or signal light, so, needless to say, times can get very frustrating and this guy behind me decides to blast his horn in my general direction and then pass in a turning lane just so he can get up beside me and start the name calling. I just couldn't help but laugh in his face, just seemed so funny to me, which angered him even more. Car muscle is almost as bad as phone muscle or internet muscle, where you know it's some 6 year old talking crap to you, but you can't do anything about it. At least with car muscle, you can take action into your own hands, but carefully,lol.
 
OMFG DID IT KICK IN TODAY.. HARDCORE!!!!!!!

This is insane, it really is..


It started out as the previous days today, feeling happy and mellow. I increased dosage to 2/1/1 DTH + 1/1/1 Sunami.

I did notice some increased energy and drive during the day, but nothin spectaculair yet. Then around 4PM some dude emailed me a picture of a hot babe, DANG IT WAS ON!!!! AND IT HIT HARD, REALLY HARD, TOO HARD, WTF.. Right I had no other option then find ways to cool down, smoked a couple of cigarettes outside, then forced myself to read something boring, damn took me 30 minutes but got it under control. OMG I dont know what will happen when I meet up with a hot chick. LOL I think it really is too much!!!

Tomorrow I'm taking 1 day of the Sunami as per bottle instructions and continuing the DTH at 2/1/1. The day after I might switch to 2/2 DTH 1/1 Sunami, I dunno I'm slightly scared now LOL.

But thats not all, took my 6PM DT/Sunami, went to workout, definately increased energy/motivation and really couldnt wait to start lifting. Beat my previous Squat high did 10x315 on my topset, felt easy too.. Then Agression really hit when some annoying 16 year olds where occupying a cable machine I wanted. I just got really annoyed by the babbling and chatting, train or go home fs, so I told em that, literally, lol wtf, I'm a real friendly guy normally...

Then driving home, roadrage baby, bigtime, some car slipped in just in front of me, I had to control myself not to drive my car into his, lol wtf..


Day 6 Stats:
Left ball: 31x50 mm (+5 mm lenght)
Right ball: 33x51 mm (+6 mm lenght)
Upper leg: 24.7" (-0.1")
Waist: 34.6" 34.4 (-0.2")
Arm: 14.8" 14.8" (0)
Chest 47.4" (+0.2")
Weight 189.2 lbs (-1.8lbs)

Summary:
Body composition: Look leaner
Mood: Happy, feel absolutly great, aggressive when triggered
Libido: Normal, but UNCONTROLLABLE WAY THE FK UP when triggered by nudity
Energy: UP UP UP UP
Thoughts: Overwhelmed by explosive aggression/libido surges. I never suspected this was gonna hit me so hard today this morning..
Observations: HUNGRY!! I could eat everything in sight, very oily forehead, I washed it 2 times today.

Ey Chuck, it's quite a dynamic product you just brought out there.. DAMN DUDE
 
what day are u on and what was ur daily dosage up till today? Its hard for me to keep track of dosage on these logs.


1HP said:
OMFG DID IT KICK IN TODAY.. HARDCORE!!!!!!!

This is insane, it really is..


It started out as the previous days today, feeling happy and mellow. I increased dosage to 2/1/1 DTH + 1/1/1 Sunami.

I did notice some increased energy and drive during the day, but nothin spectaculair yet. Then around 4PM some dude emailed me a picture of a hot babe, DANG IT WAS ON!!!! AND IT HIT HARD, REALLY HARD, TOO HARD, WTF.. Right I had no other option then find ways to cool down, smoked a couple of cigarettes outside, then forced myself to read something boring, damn took me 30 minutes but got it under control. OMG I dont know what will happen when I meet up with a hot chick. LOL I think it really is too much!!!

Tomorrow I'm taking 1 day of the Sunami as per bottle instructions and continuing the DTH at 2/1/1. The day after I might switch to 2/2 DTH 1/1 Sunami, I dunno I'm slightly scared now LOL.

But thats not all, took my 6PM DT/Sunami, went to workout, definately increased energy/motivation and really couldnt wait to start lifting. Beat my previous Squat high did 10x315 on my topset, felt easy too.. Then Agression really hit when some annoying 16 year olds where occupying a cable machine I wanted. I just got really annoyed by the babbling and chatting, train or go home fs, so I told em that, literally, lol wtf, I'm a real friendly guy normally...

Then driving home, roadrage baby, bigtime, some car slipped in just in front of me, I had to control myself not to drive my car into his, lol wtf..


Day 6 Stats:
Left ball: 31x50 mm (+5 mm lenght)
Right ball: 33x51 mm (+6 mm lenght)
Upper leg: 24.7" (-0.1")
Waist: 34.6" 34.4 (-0.2")
Arm: 14.8" 14.8" (0)
Chest 47.4" (+0.2")
Weight 189.2 lbs (-1.8lbs)

Summary:
Body composition: Look leaner
Mood: Happy, feel absolutly great, aggressive when triggered
Libido: Normal, but UNCONTROLLABLE WAY THE FK UP when triggered by nudity
Energy: UP UP UP UP
Thoughts: Overwhelmed by explosive aggression/libido surges. I never suspected this was gonna hit me so hard today this morning..
Observations: HUNGRY!! I could eat everything in sight, very oily forehead, I washed it 2 times today.

Ey Chuck, it's quite a dynamic product you just brought out there.. DAMN DUDE
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NICE!! Yeah, I'm back to being pissy again too. Don't get me wrong, still kinda happy like before, just happier now when I'm pissed off. Good log, my man!!
 
The kick in is hard and heavy lol, takes you by surprise, it's like, hmm still no libido boost one minute, then DANG HELLO WORLD DAMN!! the next hahaha
 
I keep getting the "random Wood" at the worst times. Trying to do a workout and instead have to "Stay seated" for awhile so as to be giving everything the "Mr. Woody" salute. Swear I could pound nails with it, or cut diamonds with it now!! makes for an interesting day.
 
subweevil said:
I keep getting the "random Wood" at the worst times. Trying to do a workout and instead have to "Stay seated" for awhile so as to be giving everything the "Mr. Woody" salute. Swear I could pound nails with it, or cut diamonds with it now!! makes for an interesting day.
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Hmm I dont get the random wood, just that exited feeling you get knowing you're gonna have sex and a strong desire to do it right now!! ;) Some small swelling at most, no rockhard boners..
 
subweevil said:
I keep getting the "random Wood" at the worst times. Trying to do a workout and instead have to "Stay seated" for awhile so as to be giving everything the "Mr. Woody" salute. Swear I could pound nails with it, or cut diamonds with it now!! makes for an interesting day.
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are you exargerting dude or what?lol
 
are you exargerting dude or what?lol
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Well, I always try to add a little humor to things, but no, not in the least. Honest to God, this stuff will make you hornier than a 3 peckered goat, no b.s.!! At first I brushed it off, but it's the real deal, all you gotta do is try it, I'm serious. I don't get behind alot of stuff, but this stuff is nuts, no pun intended.

i thought this was about ball size not boners anyways
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Actually, it's about DTH/Sunami AND Ball size AND libido. The boner is just along for the ride with the libido.
 
subweevil said:
Well, I always try to add a little humor to things, but no, not in the least. Honest to God, this stuff will make you hornier than a 3 peckered goat, no b.s.!! At first I brushed it off, but it's the real deal, all you gotta do is try it, I'm serious. I don't get behind alot of stuff, but this stuff is nuts, no pun intended.



Actually, it's about DTH/Sunami AND Ball size AND libido. The boner is just along for the ride with the libido.
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dude I am cracking up......a 3 peckerd goat, but seriously I told u guys I made it 2 days on dth/sunami and I was like fck this I'm 2 horny. I didn't even have time to see how the stack worked "test level" wise. I was on 4 dth and 2 sunami/day.
 
1HP said:
Day 1-Day 5 3 DTH+3 Sunami
Day 6 (today) 4 DTH + 3 Sunami
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I don't think I'm getting all out of this stack libido wise, jump in libido/agression is gone again. I think I started out on too high a dose.

I did:
Day 1-5: 1/1/1 DTHC, 1/1/1 Sunami
Day 6: 2/1/1 DTHC, 1/1/1 Sunami
Day 7: 2/1/1 DTHC, no Sunami
Day 8 (today): 1/1/1 Sunami, no DTHC

I plan on doing the following:
Day 9: OFF
Day 10,11,12: DTHC 1/1, Sunami 1/1
Day 13 and on: start increasing dosages..

Anybody knows if the DHT inhibiting effects of Saw Plametto might influence this stack negatively?
 
dude I am cracking up......a 3 peckerd goat, but seriously I told u guys I made it 2 days on dth/sunami and I was like fck this I'm 2 horny. I didn't even have time to see how the stack worked "test level" wise. I was on 4 dth and 2 sunami/day
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Haha, I just watched "You Don't Mess With The Zohan" last night, and I made one conclusion, that Zohan was on the DTH/Sunami stack when he was bangin all those older women, no other possible reason. Today is my off day of both, then I will resume tomorrow, still trying to decide what dose, looking at the charts you were kind enough to provide chuck, but, I always prefer the least amount to get the results. 2 of each was working well, but was getting a tad bit lethargic, but no worries, it didn't effect anything.
As to the Saw Palmetto, I don't know how much is in the proprietary blend, and I never will, so Chuck would be better qualified to answer, since anything I can think of would just be based on assumptions, and I don't do "maybe". Keep me posted, this is a good log boss!!
 
LOL smell it, smell it, now take it!!! Funny ****.

I take the Saw Palmetto seperate from Now Foods. 2x160mg ED..
 
AHh, was wondering. I know it inhibits DHT by blocking 5 alpha-reductase, so essentially you keep more test floating around if I'm not mistaken. My bad entirely, didn't think it was an ingredient, but was to lazy to run downstairs and check. Come to think of it, could've looked it up, sorry man.
 
subweevil said:
AHh, was wondering. I know it inhibits DHT by blocking 5 alpha-reductase, so essentially you keep more test floating around if I'm not mistaken. My bad entirely, didn't think it was an ingredient, but was to lazy to run downstairs and check. Come to think of it, could've looked it up, sorry man.
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No problemo!! I'm taking it for hair/prostate protection, I have no idea if it might have an effect on alpha male feelings/agression by inhibiting DHT..
 
1HP said:
I don't think I'm getting all out of this stack libido wise, jump in libido/agression is gone again. I think I started out on too high a dose.

I did:
Day 1-5: 1/1/1 DTHC, 1/1/1 Sunami
Day 6: 2/1/1 DTHC, 1/1/1 Sunami
Day 7: 2/1/1 DTHC, no Sunami
Day 8 (today): 1/1/1 Sunami, no DTHC

I plan on doing the following:
Day 9: OFF
Day 10,11,12: DTHC 1/1, Sunami 1/1
Day 13 and on: start increasing dosages..

Anybody knows if the DHT inhibiting effects of Saw Plametto might influence this stack negatively?
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u can use Saw Palmetto with this stack. Also this stack is 1st for increased test levels, so if ur using the stack maily for libido u might want to do 3 Sumami/day and 2 DTH day (1 am and 1 pm) like u said.
 
Chuck Diesel said:
u can use Saw Palmetto with this stack. Also this stack is 1st for increased test levels, so if ur using the stack maily for libido u might want to do 3 Sumami/day and 2 DTH day (1 am and 1 pm) like u said.
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Great thanks!!!! I think the DTHC is very strong for me. I remember my max dose on the older DT's was 4 caps before libido shutdown. I'll try 2 DTHC..
 
Cool, always great to have questions answered!! Great log 1HP, and good support Chuck! Hey 1HP, you try JP8 yet? It's crazy sick with this stack, trust me. I was even able to lower my dose since starting this stack and get better results,boggled my mind.
 
No I didnt try JP8 yet but I'm tempted to put it in my cart with my Xtend order ;)

Day 8 update:
Dose: 0/0/0 DTHC 1/1/1 Sunami

Beat previous max lifts:
Top squat set now at 10x320 lbs (+10)
Top clean&press set now at 5x145 lbs (+15)

Weight: 187 lbs (-4)
Waist 34.2" (-0.4)

Libido: slightly above normal today, yesterday below normal, the day before that way up but needed a trigger

Notes:
I think I started on a too high dose, libido is rising now, see if I can keep that going.
Yesterday I only did 4 DTHC, today only 3 Sunami, felt happier/more relaxed today, bit more aggressive yesterday. Funny..
I am really fking hungry all day long!!! I started out below maintenance, I'm over maintenance now I think, will calc tomorrow.
 
1HP said:
I don't think I'm getting all out of this stack libido wise, jump in libido/agression is gone again. I think I started out on too high a dose.

I did:
Day 1-5: 1/1/1 DTHC, 1/1/1 Sunami
Day 6: 2/1/1 DTHC, 1/1/1 Sunami
Day 7: 2/1/1 DTHC, no Sunami
Day 8 (today): 1/1/1 Sunami, no DTHC

I plan on doing the following:
Day 9: OFF
Day 10,11,12: DTHC 1/1, Sunami 1/1
Day 13 and on: start increasing dosages..

Anybody knows if the DHT inhibiting effects of Saw Plametto might influence this stack negatively?
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Def not! Limiting dht conversion means more active test is in the body. Same goes with limiting estrogen conversion....to a degree, but you really don't want to eliminate either.
 
Def not! Limiting dht conversion means more active test is in the body. Same goes with limiting estrogen conversion....to a degree, but you really don't want to eliminate either.
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Yeah, good call there. My understanding is you don't want to eliminate them, so much as control them.

Beat previous max lifts:
Top squat set now at 10x320 lbs (+10)
Top clean&press set now at 5x145 lbs (+15)

Weight: 187 lbs (-4)
Waist 34.2" (-0.4)
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AWESOME man!! kee up the good work!! I also am above where I should be on calories, b8t, no pudge gained to report, so that works. I'm over by about 500, closer to my 13 calories per pound of body weight intake.
 
ari4216 said:
but saw palmeto only block dht mainly in the scalp, right?
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It can prevent DHT binding to the receptor in the prostate and block 5-alpha reductase from forming DHT. Nothing u take orally will block DHT only at the scalp.
 
Day 9 & Day 10:

Dose 1/0/1 DTH, 1/0/1 Sunami both days

I wanted to try a lower dose for 2 days, Since the DTH and Sunami effect me in different ways, especially mood wise, I want to start experimening on what dosages of which I like most in combination.

On the lower dosage the skin on my forehead is noticable less oily. Also the mood improvements are less pronounced. This dose is clearly too low, upping it up tomorrow :whip:
 
Cool man, thanks for the update! That dose was working well for me, but it will obviously vary between individuals to some degree. Just started the schedule, 3 DTH in one day is rough, man does that stuff work!!
 
Yeah, I'm gonna do 1/1/1 DTH 1/1/0 Sunami today and maybe tomorrow aswell, then bump to 2/1/1 DTH 1/1/0 Sunami. I'm taking things slow to get a better feel for dosage differences.
 
Day 11 & Day 12:
Dose 1/1/1 DTH, 1/1/0 Sunami

Noticable more agression on this dose then on 1/0/1 DTH, 1/0/1 Sunami. It's more of a shorter fuse thing and some road rage, get annoyed easily by slow driving cars etc.

Squat up again too, now at 10x325.

Weight up, 190 lbs (that's +3 lbs in the past 4 days).

I'm really very hungry all day long, eating more then before (+/- 500 cals more) which puts me in a small calorie surplus in stead of deficit. Also cant seem to get satisfied until I get some carbs in.

I think I do like that 1/0/1 Sunami better then the 1/1/0. The happy feeling subsides a little at night with the latter dosing, and that feeling is quite addictive..
 
I'm trying the 3 DTH and 2 Suanmi, with the Suanmi in the morning and evening. So far, it's working well, no complaints, 2 more DTH to go and 1 Sunami. Time will tell, good luck bud!!
 
Day 13:
Dose 1/1/1 DTH 1/1/0 Sunami. Kept dose the same as past 2 days since both my libido and mood is going up each day. I had that huge libido surge that was really too much around a week back on 4DTH and 3 Sunami, so taking it slow now on dosage increases ;)

Especially noticable is increased assertiveness, I just don't take any **** at all from anyone.

Beardgrow rate is really annoying lol.

Hey checkout the size of my balls WTF: :twisted:

Left ball: 34x52 mm
Right ball: 35x50 mm
Upper leg: 24.8"
Waist: 34.2"
Arm: 14.9"
Chest 48"
Weight: 189 lbs

Start:
1HP said:

Left ball:31x45 mm
Right ball:33x45 mm
Upper leg: 24.8"
Waist: 34.6"
Arm: 14.8"
Chest 47.2"
Weight 191 lbs
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ari4216 said:
you think i should add sunami to DTH for a first time user?
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Yeah for sure, just start really low like 2 DTH a day, then make it 3 and slowly start adding the Sunami 1 at a time. You have to play around a bit to get how you like it best.

More DTH is more agression, more Sunami is more happy feelings, you can really finetune your mood on this combination which is one of its best features for me so far.. I love this ****!!
 
1HP said:
Yeah for sure, just start really low like 2 DTH a day, then make it 3 and slowly start adding the Sunami 1 at a time. You have to play around a bit to get how you like it best.

More DTH is more agression, more Sunami is more happy feelings, you can really finetune your mood on this combination which is one of its best features for me so far.. I love this ****!!
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but dont sunami and DTH have some similar ingrediant though, howd u get happy feelings?
 
Proprietary Blend: 945mg *
Gelantinized Maca Root, Nettle Root, Muira Puama, Mucuna Pruriens, Tongkat Ali (Eurycoma Longifolia, Panax Ginseng, Pheylethylamine HCl, Polygonum (Standardized For Resveratrol, Quebracho, Bioperine

from the PEA, quebracho, muira puama, mucuna pruiens and reservatrol?
 
I'm no expert at all, but I suspect the pregnolone to be mainly responsible for this.
 
Yessir, this stack is very solid, the gains I've been making just the first week alone are nuts!! I agree with 1HP. you can really dial stuff in with this stack, depending on what you'r looking for. I also agree to start low like he said, you can always go up from there. Make sure your sucking down extra water. We now return you to your regularly scheduled programming.....
 
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