The Buyout- Your opinions

Should there be a bail out?

  • Yes

    Votes: 8 22.2%

  • No

    Votes: 28 77.8%
  • Total voters
    36
DAdams91982 said:
Oh yeah... I loved my time in Germany. Definitely was a highlight. I like miesau because it was 24H. I dont know how no gym on a base that had 22K people didnt run a 24H gym. :frustrate:

Adams
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Miesau was 24 hour is because staff duty was in there. Ramstein should have had a 24 hour gym.

Were you over there when that mall in Ramstein opened?
 
DAdams91982 said:
So I have been there, few times. The Iraqi people was always happy we were there to me. So we basically were INVITED in by everyone BUT Saddam.

And lets not be to hasty here, if I remember right, and it being SO long ago I may be wrong. BUT wasn't it terrorist that attacked America first on OUR own soil? Its a bit hazy, but get back to me on that one.

Regardless of the motives to go in, we brought the fight to the countries THEY hide in. Saddam was just a bonus.

As for the 1.2 figure, you MUST be reading some far left media source that is account for all the civilians the terrorist kill, not the US. Because the insurgents kill kids cause they know we will run to help and rescue the wounded, then roll in a car bomb to kill the US.

I don't care who you are, but tell me who the evil ones are? It MUST be the US because we are the ones willing to take on this big of a problem.... or is it NATO; because they backed it 100%? I can't remember.

But I guess some anonymous guy on the internet is more informed than anyone on the inside... so I conceed. You win... i am a nameless killer.

But I guess those freedoms won in the revolutionary war by a murderous army was wrong. Or how about WWII? Guess we should have just let hitlers ass run through the country side, making his master race.

I dont get how some people think these days, its just so far out of touch with reality that I really do think I should be wearing my foil hat just so this type of propaganda doesn't get me too.

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Well, adams this was never my idea. My idea honestly is that the towers were downed by bush or someone else, theres overwealming evidence of that, coupled with the fact that there are no WMD's, dead people on both sides, and saddam wasnt about to conquer the world.

Its truly hard to say what has happened. As a soldier you clearly know more than i do on that suject and possibly many more.
The ideas in my head are just that and i look into the world to find truth.
I find two truths, one from the powers who benefit and one from the people who dont like seeing people die.
Conspiracy theories, propaganda... why is it so wrong to question authority when that authority tells you to kill.

I think everything is wrong in our monetary system jails are full people are poor and sick, while we secure strategic oil in the name of freedom.
why iraq? why not pakistan? N. korea? Iran?

Reason, its not as profitable. Bush doesnt really care about iraqis, or do you think so?

The american government has stated "its of little consequence who funded the attacks of 9/11" what?

Bin laden was in an american hospital for one month.

There were no bodies at the pentagon, or at the site where the passengers allegedly brought the plane down.

I just googled this, Invalid Link Removed , its not from the govt, so its probably closer to factual since its common knowledge politicians are crooked and lie.

Look at the overwealming evidence, watch zeitgeist I and II, loose change. Listen to Alex jones and then tell me with both sides of the argument its not likely that it was an "inside job".

I welcome any counter evidence and will read it.

Its common knowledge that the news stations are unreliable and biased because many party contributors/funders with their own agendas own networks and air extremly biased and opposite news than what most others account.
The internet is free and with that one of the few places to find "real" information on controversial subjects.
One network will report a landslide victory while most others can state it was opposite, or is someone wrong is it biased by money.

Atleast take the time to look and you will find hopefully you didnt have to kill and shouldnt have to die.

I do not doubt your honesty or bravery but do doubt your access to real information.
 
RobInKuwait said:
Miesau was 24 hour is because staff duty was in there. Ramstein should have had a 24 hour gym.

Were you over there when that mall in Ramstein opened?
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No... I left like a month or so before it opened. I seen it finished though... place was freakin HUGE!!!!

I would have been there for the opening, but someone ran through the attatched hotel and vandalized a ton of the rooms. Delaying the overall opening.

Adams
 
somewhatgifted said:
Well, adams this was never my idea. My idea honestly is that the towers were downed by bush or someone else, theres overwealming evidence of that, coupled with the fact that there are no WMD's, dead people on both sides, and saddam wasnt about to conquer the world.

Its truly hard to say what has happened. As a soldier you clearly know more than i do on that suject and possibly many more.
The ideas in my head are just that and i look into the world to find truth.
I find two truths, one from the powers who benefit and one from the people who dont like seeing people die.
Conspiracy theories, propaganda... why is it so wrong to question authority when that authority tells you to kill.

I think everything is wrong in our monetary system jails are full people are poor and sick, while we secure strategic oil in the name of freedom.
why iraq? why not pakistan? N. korea? Iran?

Reason, its not as profitable. Bush doesnt really care about iraqis, or do you think so?

The american government has stated "its of little consequence who funded the attacks of 9/11" what?

Bin laden was in an american hospital for one month.

There were no bodies at the pentagon, or at the site where the passengers allegedly brought the plane down.

I just googled this, Invalid Link Removed , its not from the govt, so its probably closer to factual since its common knowledge politicians are crooked and lie.

Look at the overwealming evidence, watch zeitgeist I and II, loose change. Listen to Alex jones and then tell me with both sides of the argument its not likely that it was an "inside job".

I welcome any counter evidence and will read it.

Its common knowledge that the news stations are unreliable and biased because many party contributors/funders with their own agendas own networks and air extremly biased and opposite news than what most others account.
The internet is free and with that one of the few places to find "real" information on controversial subjects.
One network will report a landslide victory while most others can state it was opposite, or is someone wrong is it biased by money.

Atleast take the time to look and you will find hopefully you didnt have to kill and shouldnt have to die.

I do not doubt your honesty or bravery but do doubt your access to real information.
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somewhatgifted said:
Omen you said "we thought there were WMD's" well there isnt so why are they still dying?
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Robinkuwait said:
Actually they found them.

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Dude, I just showed you an article that they found WMDs. Adams said he personally dismantled WMDs. WTF?:frustrate
 
DAdams91982 said:
No... I left like a month or so before it opened. I seen it finished though... place was freakin HUGE!!!!

I would have been there for the opening, but someone ran through the attatched hotel and vandalized a ton of the rooms. Delaying the overall opening.

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Someone trashed the hotel? WTF...

Probably some kid at Ramstein High.
 
RobInKuwait said:
Dude, I just showed you an article that they found WMDs. Adams said he personally dismantled WMDs. WTF?:frustrate
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Fox news... buddy not exaclty a "realiable" or even "accurate" source.

look at the thousands of sites that arent funded or owned outright by war profiteering people. Thats the whole point here :frustrate.
 
somewhatgifted said:
Fox news... buddy not exaclty a "realiable" or even "accurate" source.

look at the thousands of sites that arent funded or owned outright by war profiteering people. Thats the whole point here :frustrate.
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So personal biased blogs are a better source for your information?

Adams
 
somewhatgifted said:
Fox news... buddy not exaclty a "realiable" or even "accurate" source.

look at the thousands of sites that arent funded or owned outright by war profiteering people. Thats the whole point here :frustrate.
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You still didn't address Adams. He said he dismantled WMDs while there. Are you calling him a liar. Is he part of the "conspiracy"?

Before you try discredit a reputable news source, why don't you try reading it and seeing if there is supporting documentation that supports the article. You'll see that the supporting documentation is a National Ground Intelligence Center report released to congress.

Here's a Department of Defense newslink:

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RobInKuwait said:
You still didn't address Adams. He said he dismantled WMDs while there. Are you calling him a liar. Is he part of the "conspiracy"?

Before you try discredit a reputable news source, why don't you try reading it and seeing if there is supporting documentation that supports the article. You'll see that the supporting documentation is a National Ground Intelligence Center report released to congress.

Here's a Department of Defense newslink:

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Vials and vials of unknown:
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Yup... that would be used atropine... there were THOUSANDS of these all around:
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Sarin much?
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I have a TON more... but you get the jist.

Adams
 
Adams, can you post more pictures? Very interesting.

somewhatgifted, I agree with some of what you're saying, except for the part about the U.S. being involved with 9/11. Also, the fact that the Internet is free does allow truths to be told by alternative sources, but it also lets allows the whackos to come out at night.
 
one says cleaning liquid, and poison. Teh second the label is not visible. The sarin is obviously what you say. They were going to mount a global assault with those babies right there in the rubble.

Watch "loose change" its facts all facts then come back to me.

Cmon if another country bombed the US to bits what would they find for WMD's. I think a few little bottles are hardly weapons of MASS destruction.
 
somewhatgifted said:
one says cleaning liquid, and poison. Teh second the label is not visible. The sarin is obviously what you say. They were going to mount a global assault with those babies right there in the rubble.

Watch "loose change" its facts all facts then come back to me.

Cmon if another country bombed the US to bits what would they find for WMD's. I think a few little bottles are hardly weapons of MASS destruction.
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Way to be right there. Iraq had a WMD sanction against them because they tested those very weapons against... get this... THEIR OWN PEOPLE. I showed you just a few pictures. There are a ton I will not post on the internet, there are things that need to stay behind closed doors.

But you go ahead and keep trying to discount what others do to keep you and everyone else safe.

Again... way to be.

Adams
 
somewhatgifted said:
one says cleaning liquid, and poison. Teh second the label is not visible. The sarin is obviously what you say. They were going to mount a global assault with those babies right there in the rubble.
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You're changing your argument. You said NO WMDs were found. Keep in mind, this is ONE Servicemember's account. I've heard many fellow Soldiers who were there in the initial invasion in 2003 give similar accounts. Not to mention the reports I cited that you still haven't acknowledged.

somewhatgifted said:
Watch "loose change" its facts all facts then come back to me.

Cmon if another country bombed the US to bits what would they find for WMD's. I think a few little bottles are hardly weapons of MASS destruction.
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Who's going to bomb the US to bits?

Sarin is defined by the UN as a WMD. That is not in dispute.
 
This is utterly useless. Theres always going be some little detail you will argue. If you really want to blow my argument out of the water watch loose change and zeitgeist to save me from posting page upon page of facts. other than that i guess you win and im retarded because no matter how much i say about ethics and human rights you dont care, watch the vids.
 
somewhatgifted said:
This is utterly useless. Theres always going be some little detail you will argue. If you really want to blow my argument out of the water watch loose change and zeitgeist to save me from posting page upon page of facts. other than that i guess you win and im retarded because no matter how much i say about ethics and human rights you dont care, watch the vids.
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I have watched zietgiest, and unfortunately it is like Michael Moore movies. Twisted words, interviews, and propaganda passed off as facts.

Adams
 
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baNzSK_ljqU"]YouTube - Zeitgeist 2 (Part II: all the world's a stage - b)[/ame]

Have you seen this?
 
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sm73wOuPL60&feature=related"]YouTube - Bush Caught Lying About September 11th[/ame]

Blatant lies by bush.
 
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlWSv0NZBRw&NR=1"]YouTube - Evidence that George W. Bush had advanced knowledge of 9-11[/ame]

The same lie another time, so it wasnt a one time mistake.
 
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwq04_KhCeI&feature=related"]YouTube - 911 Clues EVERYONE MISSED[/ame]

questions about the media and the inconsistencies around "eye witnesses" and "experts".
 
[nomedia="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xx5IKBFW1B8&feature=related"]YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.[/nomedia]

Aaron russo atests that he was told about 9/11 11 months before it happened by nick rockafeller.
 
DAdams91982 said:
I have watched zietgiest, and unfortunately it is like Michael Moore movies. Twisted words, interviews, and propaganda passed off as facts.

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Isnt that Fox news? Fair and Balanced, thats right. LOL.

For the record, I dont hate America. Just because I dont agree with this Administration's policy in Iraq and the 9-11 official story. DOES NOT make me hate america. Where did you a s s holes deduce that from.

Again for the record. I dont hide behind the constitution that you fight for. Your insane. A constitution that means nothing. We are lucky we still have the bill of rights. The president doesnt follow the constitution, not many in regards to war, have.

You mean this thing-

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Your were not the only one it Iraq buddy.......I have many friends and family members.

Almost all of them told me its a bullshit war. One even said, he would shoot bush himself. Im not sure if he was under distress, but those words came from his mouth.

When one of my buddies got out, he went back over under the privatized portion of it and make a killing. Go figure.

Somewhat, it is futile.

They have there opinions and so do we. Its a shame though, they can have theres, but we cant have ours.
Hypocrisy. I love it.

I have a problem when difference of opinion leads to implied threats, personal insults and brow beating.
 
somewhatgifted said:
This is utterly useless. Theres always going be some little detail you will argue. If you really want to blow my argument out of the water watch loose change and zeitgeist to save me from posting page upon page of facts. other than that i guess you win and im retarded because no matter how much i say about ethics and human rights you dont care, watch the vids.
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Some little detail? Are you kidding me? You said this war was started on the faulty premise that there were WMDs in Iraq. That little detail Adams and I showed you is that there were WMDs in Iraq.

Your argument holds no weight because it is false.

Tell me what "ethics and human rights" Saddam adhered to. He was one of the most evil, vile and detested men in the world.
 
Saddam used to work for the CIA, the US governement tried all the usual tactics, the 1)econimists come in to bribe him, try to make him corrupt. 2)jackals try to kill him, one way or another 3) war. Noone could get in on saddam becasue his security was so high. He was put in power to control the people and with many other leaders who stand up to the US they kill him.

Obviously and of course, Saddam Hussein belongs in the lowest circle of Dante's Hell, and now, that's where he is. And most of the awful things we've been told about his years in power were true. But what haven't we been told?
Simply put, Saddam Hussein's brutal reign was made by the USA. He worked for the CIA before be became politically prominent in Iraq. He was one of America's closet Mideast allies during the 1980s, and received substantial US military and financial aid.

When you hear references to his tyranny, his cruelty, the accounts are generally true -- he was one hell of a bastard. The 'unknown news', though, is that at the peak of Saddam's tyranny and cruelty, the Reagan administration didn't just tolerate having Saddam in charge of Iraq, they funded and armed his regime. He was America's ally, just like several of the world's most despotic bastards are America's allies now.
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And once captured, Saddam could have faced justice in an international tribunal, but if he had, there were all sorts of true stories he could have told about American complicity in his crimes. So instead he was given an obviously rigged trial in an Iraqi court, surrounded by American soldiers and overseen by American authorities, and then he was executed -- on the first day of the Islamic holy days Eid ul-Adha, for a little added insult to Muslims around the world.



If you look at the photo of Saddam with neck in noose, getting ready for his "road trip", notice the masked men doing him up. I see that more and more these days; not just in Iraq but also the U.S. We did that once before here, with mobs of men too cowardly to show their faces as they hanged people: the KKK.

It won't be long before Saddam's crimes will be forgotten by most in Iraq and the Middle East -- but songs will be sung, legends told, movies made about his American-controlled kangaroo trial and execution, and future generations of angry insurrection will be inspired.
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And of course, now that Saddam Hussein is dead, his tyranny becomes irrelevant. What's been accomplished by the war and occupation of Iraq, and the trial and execution of Saddam Hussein, is only this: We've made a madman into a folk hero. A tyrant has been re-cast as a victim.
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How America armed Iraq

The Sunday Herald [Glasgow, Scotland]

June 14, 2004

Under the successive presidencies of Ronald Reagan and George Bush, the USA sold nuclear, chemical and biological weapons technology to Saddam Hussein.

In the early 1990s, UN inspectors told the US Senate committee on banking, housing and urban affairs -- which oversees American export policy -- that they had “identified many US-manufactured items exported pursuant of licenses issued by the US department of commerce that were used to further Iraq’s chemical and nuclear weapons development and missile delivery system development programs”.

In 1992, the committee began investigating “US chemical and biological warfare-related dual-use exports to Iraq”. It found that 17 individual shipments totaling some 80 batches of biomaterial were sent to Iraq during the Reagan years.

These included two batches of anthrax and two batches of botulism being sent to the Iraqi ministry of higher education on May 2, 1986; one batch each of salmonella and E.Coli sent to the Iraqi state company for drug industries on August 31, 1987.

Other shipments from the US went to the Iraqi Atomic Energy Commission on July 11, 1988; the department of biology at the University of Basra in November 1989; the department of microbiology at Baghdad University in June 1985; the ministry of health in April 1985 and Officers’ City military complex in Baghdad in March and April 1986.

As well as anthrax and botulism, the USA also sent West Nile fever, brucella melitensis, which damages major organs, and clostridium perfringens, which causes gas gangrene. The shipments even went on after Saddam ordered the gassing of the Kurdish town of Halabja, in which some 5000 people died, in March 1988.

The chairman of the Senate committee, Don Riegle, said: “The executive branch of our government approved 771 different export licenses for sale of dual-use technology to Iraq. I think it’s a devastating record.”

Other items which were sent by the US to Iraq included chemical warfare agent precursors, chemical warfare agent production facility plans and technical drawings, chemical warfare filling equipment, biological warfare-related materials, missile fabrication equipment and missile system guidance equipment.
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Of course they has SOME but cmon buddy your missing the point all together here. Quit hiding behind one little indescrepancy to validate a rediculous unvalidated war. Ok they had chemicals, whoppidy do guess who sent them.

This isnt a suprise the US has controlled countries placed figure head governemnts and empowered individuals to lead their best interest.

As soon as these "dictators" try to help the people (use their resources to help themselves) they get killed, its happened in panama, honduras and tried it with chavez and saddam. Bananas, the canal, oil and opium... people dont matter money does, freedom my azz.

Opium production increased in afghanistan since 2001.

Michael Chossudovsky said:
Legal Business and Illicit Trade are Intertwined

Michel Chossudovsky is the author of the international best America’s "War on Terrorism" Global Research, 2005. He is Professor of Economics at the University of Ottawa and Director of the Center for Research on Globalization.

There are powerful business and financial interests behind narcotics. From this standpoint, geopolitical and military control over the drug routes is as strategic as oil and oil pipelines.

Moreover, the above figures including those on money laundering, confirm that the bulk of the revenues associated with the global trade in narcotics are not appropriated by terrorist groups and warlords, as suggested by the UNODC report. In the case of Afghanistan, the UN Office on Drugs and Crime estimates that a mere 2.7 billion accrues as revenue within Afghanistan. According to the US State department "Afghanistan drug profits support the Taliban and their terrorism efforts against the United States, its allies and the Afghan government." (statement, the House Appropriations foreign operations, export financing and related programs subcommittee. September 12, 2006)

However, what distinguishes narcotics from legal commodity trade is that narcotics constitutes a major source of wealth formation not only for organized crime but also for the US intelligence apparatus, which increasingly constitutes a powerful actor in the spheres of finance and banking. This relationship has been documented by several studies including the writings of Alfred McCoy. (Drug Fallout: the CIA's Forty Year Complicity in the Narcotics Trade. The Progressive, 1 August 1997).

In other words, intelligence agencies, powerful business, drug traders and organized crime are competing for the strategic control over the heroin routes. A large share of this multi-billion dollar revenues of narcotics are deposited in the Western banking system. Most of the large international banks together with their affiliates in the offshore banking havens launder large amounts of narco-dollars.

This trade can only prosper if the main actors involved in narcotics have "political friends in high places." Legal and illegal undertakings are increasingly intertwined, the dividing line between "businesspeople" and criminals is blurred. In turn, the relationship among criminals, politicians and members of the intelligence establishment has tainted the structures of the state and the role of its institutions including the Military.
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Rugger this ones for you my friend. Please watch.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YurhFvPy14"]YouTube - Zeitgeist: Addendum 2/13[/ame]

P.s Thanks for this REP
The Buyout- Your opinions 10-07-2008 07:36 AM Rugger stop. no one likes you
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RobInKuwait said:
Some little detail? Are you kidding me? You said this war was started on the faulty premise that there were WMDs in Iraq. That little detail Adams and I showed you is that there were WMDs in Iraq.

Your argument holds no weight because it is false.

Tell me what "ethics and human rights" Saddam adhered to. He was one of the most evil, vile and detested men in the world.
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Hahaha ive said alot of things, He was put in power by the US, The US gave him WMD's, his job was to filter funds to the US and give lucrative contracts to american big buisness. So he killed some people the US does it and its ok for them?
He was made a martyr and a hero and iraqi kids will hate your kids for your efforts. Nice work now they can fight to the death in the future or you just slaughter them now becaue they are tired of being raped.
 
somewhatgifted said:
Hahaha ive said alot of things, He was put in power by the US, The US gave him WMD's, his job was to filter funds to the US and give lucrative contracts to american big buisness. So he killed some people the US does it and its ok for them?
He was made a martyr and a hero and iraqi kids will hate your kids for your efforts. Nice work now they can fight to the death in the future or you just slaughter them now becaue they are tired of being raped.
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Okay.. I am done with this fukkin thread. Comparing the US to Saddam is just blatant ignorance, and shows you know nothing about this. I dont believe you even live in the US, nor Iraq?

Funny that you mention the Iraqi kids, because they love us over there. First time they got to experience a refrigerator and air conditioning. BTW, the sanction said saddam was to have NONE of those chemicals, I guess we are forgetting Halabja huh? No, he wouldnt try that anywhere else would he? More Ignorance.

Like I said... I am done, your ignorance in this matter is giving me a headache, and your conspiracy theories are so far off even the deep far left would find it comical.

Adams is OUT!

Adams
 
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Yx9NRX37SM"]YouTube - Loose Change 2nd Edition (Full)[/ame]

People who were there. said there were bombs in the basement of WTC buildings, seen military planes and many mnay scientific facts that tell you 9/11 was an inside job. Around 10 of the alledged hijackers are still alive and had nothing to do with it.
 
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(Whiskers does not advocate defacing currency. This post was for entertainment only.)
 
all i can see is that the average american is getting f*cked in the ass by the govt and big business (banks and oil companies), how about bailing out the average american joe instead of those greedy muthaf*ckers on wall street.

it doesn't matter who becomes president because the system is too ingrained to be changed by a presidential puppet who's strings are being pulled by higher powers who only care about more money & more power.

i think america is great, the people are great but the govt sucks.
 
b unit said:
all i can see is that the average american is getting f*cked in the ass by the govt and big business (banks and oil companies), how about bailing out the average american joe instead of those greedy muthaf*ckers on wall street.

it doesn't matter who becomes president because the system is too ingrained to be changed by a presidential puppet who's strings are being pulled by higher powers who only care about more money & more power.

i think america is great, the people are great but the govt sucks.
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you are correct. "joe six pack and hockey mom" needs the bailout, not the fat cats. (btw, palin is an idiot)

I have an eery feeling that we will get zilch from this theft. Except more debt. lol

global markets are crashing,,,,,,,,,,, ........ feds drop the rate, again...........

lets see where this magic bailout goes...........


Did i mention Bush and Congress have screwed the pooch, AGAIN?
 
Anyone remember these pictures?

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I don't think Saddam Hussein should ever have been ousted as leader of Iraq. Because if you think Iraq should have been invaded, your logic should dictate that North Korea, Saudi Arabia, and many other countries should be invaded and their leaders ousted, at which point we prop up a puppet government long enough until we pull out.
 
AM07 said:
Anyone remember these pictures?

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I don't think Saddam Hussein should ever have been ousted as leader of Iraq. Because if you think Iraq should have been invaded, your logic should dictate that North Korea, Saudi Arabia, and many other countries should be invaded and their leaders ousted, at which point we prop up a puppet government long enough until we pull out.
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I think i spread myself entirely too thin and reached too far to say the same rough point. Well said. great post.
 
In all fairness, some bugs you swat, some you spray with Raid, others you need to bomb the whole house and stay in a hotel for a day or two. Why we haven't invaded these other countries is a valid question, but don't be so quick to think there isn't a valid answer.

AM07 said:
Anyone remember these pictures?

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I don't think Saddam Hussein should ever have been ousted as leader of Iraq. Because if you think Iraq should have been invaded, your logic should dictate that North Korea, Saudi Arabia, and many other countries should be invaded and their leaders ousted, at which point we prop up a puppet government long enough until we pull out.
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the bailout for the fatcats and coat-tails is a joke.....

I would be willing to be my nutsack this isnt an isolated incident.

Screwed again by W.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoL2Q2KItV4"]YouTube - 10/7 AIG Executives Scandal $500K Spa Resort Vacation Party[/ame]
 
Another good one.....

7.75 years of public money into private hands, .25 years of massive private debt put into public hands...great job!

We suck. I am in awe of the ignorance of the american populus .

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CJMw914Zvk&feature=related"]YouTube - Americans + Bailout = REVOLUTION[/ame]
 
CDB said:
In all fairness, some bugs you swat, some you spray with Raid, others you need to bomb the whole house and stay in a hotel for a day or two. Why we haven't invaded these other countries is a valid question, but don't be so quick to think there isn't a valid answer.
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Well if everyone is a bug, who decides what bugs should die.
 
:clap2: Kristopher68SS Absolutely incredible contributions to this argument! Ive seen all these vids save the one from Marcy Kaptur and its perfectly obvious that the intent of this Bailout was never to fix a problem created on purpose. It seems all the prior questions arguments and deabtes are settled. There are solutions, none of them easy, but i am glad you have the sense to see this scam for what it is and i respect the manner in which you have tabled your opinions. I will now return to my aforementioned "retarded, ignorant" position full of "conspiracy theories" and put back on my foil hat. Thank you.
 
Heres a tin foil hat post :) .

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2ty3b4EBMg"]YouTube - V for Vendetta Televised Speech[/ame]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7i8b7YwMWhs"]YouTube - Clip from V for Vendetta[/ame]
 
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