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Anyone ever do 4ad + formestane in a td?

EasyEJL

EasyEJL

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Just thinking that would be a good feeling way to control estrogen on a 4ad transdermal cycle. So did anyone do this back in the day?
 
EasyEJL said:
Just thinking that would be a good feeling way to control estrogen on a 4ad transdermal cycle. So did anyone do this back in the day?
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I was considering this combo only with oral 4 Diol so I'd like to see feedback as well. I'd rather do a dermal 4AD but I have pre-capped 4AD which is surely loaded with too much magnesium sterate and white rice powder as fillers.
 
For me transdermal 4ad is a little scary with the wife and kids and all, but if you had powder for both.... not the worst thing for a mass gain cycle.
 
I did alot of trans 4ad 4/5 years ago. Never used anything to control estrogen and never had any problems. The little bit you will have will help your joints and give your strength a big boost. I would not add it unless I had to.
 
dg806 said:
I did alot of trans 4ad 4/5 years ago. Never used anything to control estrogen and never had any problems. The little bit you will have will help your joints and give your strength a big boost. I would not add it unless I had to.
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I've ran a couple successful 4-Diol solo cycles many years ago as well without any adverse effects but I think this would be attractive for the synergistic effects Formestane could provide. I LOVE Form!
 
Ziquor said:
I've ran a couple successful 4-Diol solo cycles many years ago as well without any adverse effects but I think this would be attractive for the synergistic effects Formestane could provide. I LOVE Form!
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Thats why 4/ad and 1 test transdermal worked so good together. Wish it was still legal and cheap.
 
Rodja said:
It would be a ***** to get into solution at a good dose, though.
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Are you saying that as in trying to get both form and 4ad in the same solution? I know form has a rep for being tricky to get into solution. Is this the same issue with 4ad?
 
celc5 said:
Are you saying that as in trying to get both form and 4ad in the same solution? I know form has a rep for being tricky to get into solution. Is this the same issue with 4ad?
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Yes, 4AD has to be added very slowly to the carrier during a water bath and with a ball-bearing in the carrier to help break up the clumps.
 
Rodja said:
Yes, 4AD has to be added very slowly to the carrier during a water bath and with a ball-bearing in the carrier to help break up the clumps.
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Thanks bro :cheers:

Just out of curiosity, do you add formestane because 4ad will aromatize? Wouldn't that make 4oht a preferential choice over 4ad?
 
celc5 said:
Thanks bro :cheers:

Just out of curiosity, do you add formestane because 4ad will aromatize? Wouldn't that make 4oht a preferential choice over 4ad?
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I have never used them together, but I would assume to lower aromatization, increase IGF-1, and for extra strength gains.
 
EasyEJL said:
i was mostly asking cause i have both :)
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Easy, have you gotten any feedback on results of 4ad solo runs? Usually it's just used as a base, right?

SOB, 4ad and 4oht should still be available. It'd make SD and tren cycles so much easier IMO :rant:
 
celc5 said:
Easy, have you gotten any feedback on results of 4ad solo runs? Usually it's just used as a base, right?

SOB, 4ad and 4oht should still be available. It'd make SD and tren cycles so much easier IMO :rant:
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it seems to be effective solo as it converts to test, so not that different from doing a test base cycle.
 
again out of curiosity, how long do you plan on running this stack? What gains do you expect.

I'd say about +10 or 12 with 1ad/4ad but lethargy gyno pop up.

Maybe +4 or 5 with 4ad/form? :think:
 
id guess it depends on cycle length. im not too likely to actually do this as a cycle tho, as the contact risk to wife, daughters and infant son is too high with 4ad
 
EasyEJL said:
id guess it depends on cycle length. im not too likely to actually do this as a cycle tho, as the contact risk to wife, daughters and infant son is too high with 4ad
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Ya the thought of contact with the kids would definately keep me from running TDs.

Good discussion, nonetheless :cheers:
 
I feel far less concerned with formestane itself, as it is "just" an aromatase inhibitor. so the effect particularly on the girls wouldnt be so severe as they accidentally getting some 4ad.
 
Regarding the instructions on slowing adding the powder into a heated solution -- does it really make a difference if you are willing to let it set for a few days? Wouldn't it either enter solution or not, and that equilibrium is not dependent on the way it is initially mixed? Supersaturated is supersaturated, unless you are going to somehow keep it at a high temperature permanently.
 
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