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first test cycle

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hey guys im about to start my first cycle using real gear instead of ph/s but i was an advanced PH user.. my cycle will be

weeks 1-10 500mg Test Enth
weeks 1-4 dianabol 40-50mg
weeks 8-12? winstrol 50-100mg

Was going to use deca instaed of winstrol weeks 1-10 but i heard alot of it is bloat and i would prefer to dry it out at the end and make clean gains...
 
Looks like a very basic, yet extremely effective cycle. Have fun bro.
 
The enanthate looks fine, but if you're thinking the winny will dry you out at the end, it wont. Its not going to cause retention, but it doesnt work to alleviate it either.

holy
 
so is there a better compound to use instead of winny.. should i do the deca and worry about cutting the water weight after.. or no i figured the gains on winny are easier to maintain at the end opposed to all the water retention from everything else... ya know?
 
Yes, winstrol is going to promote much leaner muscle gains than most other steroids, but the point I was trying to make is that it wont have any effect whatsoever on the water you attain while using the enanthate. If you're interested in doing that, you need to use some sort of aromatase inhibitor along with the test. Personally, I dont like the trend towards adding things in at the end, and would just run the deca or the winny from the onset.

holy
 
ohh okay well maybe ill just stick to d-bol and test my other option was to up the test dosage to 600 or 750 but i dont want to overdue it, but im not a beginner and i know my receptors have been used from the PH's cycles i have done ...
 
Generally speaking the more mgs of test you run, the more water you will retain...that doesnt really sound like the way you were wanting to go.

holy
 
You'll be fine water is just going to help you gain strength. Yuo can keep it lower but you don't need no water. the water will leave after you come off. Try some adex .25 eod. That should help with bloat if needed.
 
im just going to not use any adex.. i figured the water weight will help strength like u said and help my gain size.. so im leaning towards the winstrol at the end of the cycle but is there going to be any benefits with it..?? will i notice my muscles harden at all?
 
sportf190 said:
im just going to not use any adex.. i figured the water weight will help strength like u said and help my gain size.. so im leaning towards the winstrol at the end of the cycle but is there going to be any benefits with it..?? will i notice my muscles harden at all?
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Be warned, water weight is far from pretty, and you better do something to block gyno. A bloated mess is not what you want, trust me. At least run nolva 10mg a day to block breast tissue. That much test WILL cause you to grow boobies over time. I never had any issues with loss of gains using an AI, that is pure bullsh*t .
 
ohh alright well im going to stick with the cycle above just test at 500mg for 10 weeks...I have winny and will adding it in the end help solidlfy my gains at all??.. like weeks 8-12 or 9-12..?? im not expecting to lose water weight i just would like it to help solidfy the gains.. i read on other boards it does whats ur take?
 
sportf190 said:
ohh alright well im going to stick with the cycle above just test at 500mg for 10 weeks...I have winny and will adding it in the end help solidlfy my gains at all??.. like weeks 8-12 or 9-12..?? im not expecting to lose water weight i just would like it to help solidfy the gains.. i read on other boards it does whats ur take?
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if your bloated and prone to gyno use the ADEX please.

you can stop the adex if you want when you add winny, but i wouldnt,

also if you do winny 50mg EOD is all you need, inject it .

you can mix the test and winny in the same syringe just shake it up first .
 
ok i will get the adex and i have the oral winstrol but i shoulda got the injectable.. I also heard winny is alot easier to come off making it easier to maintain your gains..
 
crazyfool405 said:
if your bloated and prone to gyno use the ADEX please.

you can stop the adex if you want when you add winny, but i wouldnt,

also if you do winny 50mg EOD is all you need, inject it .

you can mix the test and winny in the same syringe just shake it up first .
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Are you sure about that?
 
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