FOXDIE
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ok so here is what i am doing. i have been doing my own thing since i started TRT, adding in dhea, then preg, trying adex, etc. never had great results with TRT....
I am going back to basics.
1.) I was going to go to once a week injections, as this is what Dr. Crisler recommends, but I think I'll stick with twice weekly. Regardless of whether this is unnecessary, it can only help doing it more frequently, correct? If things look I will switch to once weekly later on...
2.) Dropping pregnenolone completely. I was taking 100mg a day, then 50mg a day. I don't even know if I really feel better with it or not, so I'm dropping to baseline, and after holding all other things static for a while, I reintroduce pregnenolone, it will be in transdermal form, as Dr. Crisler says this is superior to oral, as oral's first pass through the liver converts some of it into a sedative-like product.
3.) I am dropping DHEA from 150mg to 50mg a day. I was going it completely, but I know that even with 200mg DHEA daily I was only at 481 DHEA-S, which is well, well within range. I just keep reading too much from Dr. Crisler, and around the net that 50mg is the most the average guy should take, so well see how that works out. If/when I increase it I will do it after holding all other things static for a while. From what I have read, DHEA results are equivalent when taken orally compared to transdermally, i.e. there are NO BENEFITS WHATSOEVER besides absorption rate (as comparted to PREG's aforementioned problem with the first pass through the liver). Plus unlike PREG, DHEA doesn't leave me wondering if my body is converting the excess to progesterone, or one of the million other things it changes into. DHEA is a much more predictable beast. Surely it will only end up, if anything, changing my estrogens or androgens a tiny bit.
4.) No arimidex. Dr. Crisler says that it is RARE for anyone to need arimidex, EVEN WITH HCG included with TRT. I have been brainwashed by the small sample of people on all these online forums, the same people always harping about this e2 level or arimidex, or what have you. They are the minority; this is not the standard practice and its taken me 2 years on TRT to finally realize all my research and learning has been hurting more then its helping. TRT hasn't been prescribed to the average joe who never hits a forum in his lifetime, and they generally have great results with TRT. People with problems, who avidly post on forums are the minority. It's time to trust the professional and standard medicine. (this is not to say older men may not have problems with e2, other hormones, etc and will not benefit from arimidex!) but for someone with no e2 problems BEFORE TRT and only 23 years old, I assume my body can cope with the physiological T levels, because it did so very well just a few years ago.
5.) No DIM. God knows if its antiandrogenic properties are imposed throughout the body, and not just prostate cells. It reduces acne doesn't it? And young guys I've heard of taking it, complained of lower libido not higher... Young guys who's Testo and Estro are at peak values. (This is not to say it doesn't have it's uses, or isn't helpful for some people!).
Supplements I plan on still taking:
Multivitamin
Vitamin E, D-3, B complex (I have colitis, and have deficiencies)
DHEA 50mg time 6-8hr release
Pancreatin 10x
Probiotic 10-20
Mega EFA
ToCoQ10
Levothyroxine 137mcg. (I was on 75mcg synthroid before and felt crappy, then tried 1g armour, felt better, then tried 3 grains felt better but something wasn't right... TSH results came back at ZERO. not .1, but plain old 0. That mean's my body was saying whoa, too much thyroid, were not making ANY more. Now I'm on 137mcg and my results were .6 range is (i believe) {.5 - 5.0}. Things feel alot more level, but I do feel less zing then when I was on the 3g.)
None of those except the DHEA are anything that, as far as logic/knowledge dictates are extraordinary compounds that could negatively impact my health in any way at all.
How does that sound everyone? Any flaws in my post? Does anyone here think they felt better on once a week injections, and think I should revert to that immediately as well?
One thing to note: I have colitis so I basically have completely cut fruits/vegetables out of my diet. If i take all the aforementioned vitamins, do you see anything I could be deficient in with taking fruits/vegetables out of my diet?
Biggest problems with my TRT is mental fog, sedated tired feeling often, yawning more than anyone I'm around at night, gynecomastia (but only happened during my 3g armour trial...musta been hyper...FUK!), and no fire in the belly, brain-penis connection called libido....
hopefully by the end of the week I'll be turned on by even this chick :chick:
Thanks everyone, you guys are amazing support and tremendous help!
I am going back to basics.
1.) I was going to go to once a week injections, as this is what Dr. Crisler recommends, but I think I'll stick with twice weekly. Regardless of whether this is unnecessary, it can only help doing it more frequently, correct? If things look I will switch to once weekly later on...
2.) Dropping pregnenolone completely. I was taking 100mg a day, then 50mg a day. I don't even know if I really feel better with it or not, so I'm dropping to baseline, and after holding all other things static for a while, I reintroduce pregnenolone, it will be in transdermal form, as Dr. Crisler says this is superior to oral, as oral's first pass through the liver converts some of it into a sedative-like product.
3.) I am dropping DHEA from 150mg to 50mg a day. I was going it completely, but I know that even with 200mg DHEA daily I was only at 481 DHEA-S, which is well, well within range. I just keep reading too much from Dr. Crisler, and around the net that 50mg is the most the average guy should take, so well see how that works out. If/when I increase it I will do it after holding all other things static for a while. From what I have read, DHEA results are equivalent when taken orally compared to transdermally, i.e. there are NO BENEFITS WHATSOEVER besides absorption rate (as comparted to PREG's aforementioned problem with the first pass through the liver). Plus unlike PREG, DHEA doesn't leave me wondering if my body is converting the excess to progesterone, or one of the million other things it changes into. DHEA is a much more predictable beast. Surely it will only end up, if anything, changing my estrogens or androgens a tiny bit.
4.) No arimidex. Dr. Crisler says that it is RARE for anyone to need arimidex, EVEN WITH HCG included with TRT. I have been brainwashed by the small sample of people on all these online forums, the same people always harping about this e2 level or arimidex, or what have you. They are the minority; this is not the standard practice and its taken me 2 years on TRT to finally realize all my research and learning has been hurting more then its helping. TRT hasn't been prescribed to the average joe who never hits a forum in his lifetime, and they generally have great results with TRT. People with problems, who avidly post on forums are the minority. It's time to trust the professional and standard medicine. (this is not to say older men may not have problems with e2, other hormones, etc and will not benefit from arimidex!) but for someone with no e2 problems BEFORE TRT and only 23 years old, I assume my body can cope with the physiological T levels, because it did so very well just a few years ago.
5.) No DIM. God knows if its antiandrogenic properties are imposed throughout the body, and not just prostate cells. It reduces acne doesn't it? And young guys I've heard of taking it, complained of lower libido not higher... Young guys who's Testo and Estro are at peak values. (This is not to say it doesn't have it's uses, or isn't helpful for some people!).
Supplements I plan on still taking:
Multivitamin
Vitamin E, D-3, B complex (I have colitis, and have deficiencies)
DHEA 50mg time 6-8hr release
Pancreatin 10x
Probiotic 10-20
Mega EFA
ToCoQ10
Levothyroxine 137mcg. (I was on 75mcg synthroid before and felt crappy, then tried 1g armour, felt better, then tried 3 grains felt better but something wasn't right... TSH results came back at ZERO. not .1, but plain old 0. That mean's my body was saying whoa, too much thyroid, were not making ANY more. Now I'm on 137mcg and my results were .6 range is (i believe) {.5 - 5.0}. Things feel alot more level, but I do feel less zing then when I was on the 3g.)
None of those except the DHEA are anything that, as far as logic/knowledge dictates are extraordinary compounds that could negatively impact my health in any way at all.
How does that sound everyone? Any flaws in my post? Does anyone here think they felt better on once a week injections, and think I should revert to that immediately as well?
One thing to note: I have colitis so I basically have completely cut fruits/vegetables out of my diet. If i take all the aforementioned vitamins, do you see anything I could be deficient in with taking fruits/vegetables out of my diet?
Biggest problems with my TRT is mental fog, sedated tired feeling often, yawning more than anyone I'm around at night, gynecomastia (but only happened during my 3g armour trial...musta been hyper...FUK!), and no fire in the belly, brain-penis connection called libido....
hopefully by the end of the week I'll be turned on by even this chick :chick:
Thanks everyone, you guys are amazing support and tremendous help!
