19-Norandrosta 4,9 diene- 3,17 dione
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I'd certainly opt for T-roid
while I originally heard not to good reviews on the "tren ph" a lot of players at my colleges baseball team (not ncaa sanctioned) are using it and gaining weight pretty rapidly, one of my buddies put on a little over twn pounds with a bottle (granted he was an AAS/PH virgin going into the cycle)
anyway, if you end up using it let us know how it goes so I can potentially stock up before it's banned.
while I originally heard not to good reviews on the "tren ph" a lot of players at my colleges baseball team (not ncaa sanctioned) are using it and gaining weight pretty rapidly, one of my buddies put on a little over twn pounds with a bottle (granted he was an AAS/PH virgin going into the cycle)
anyway, if you end up using it let us know how it goes so I can potentially stock up before it's banned.
stxnas
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Hey, what's up bud!?!
Anyway, I'm not following you on this...
Cyclo Tren is 60 caps at 35mg = 2.1 grams per bottle. It's $39.99 at Nutraplanet.
T-Roid is 90 caps at 30mg = 2.7grams per bottle and is only $32.95 at Nutraplanet.
10195079
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I've been using cyclo tren for 3 weeks now (I plan on running it for 6 weeks), so I can give you a mid cycle report.
This compound appears to agree with me very well, besides slightly elevated body temp, blood pressure and some disturbed sleep during the first 3 days, I have not experienced any sides over the last 3 weeks. My strength has increased dramatically, my weight is up and the pumps are amazing.
Unlike my previous experience with epi I do not appear to be carrying any water (no moon face). Prior to taking cyclo tren I read a lot of posts suggesting this compound is not a great bulker, I don't agree with these statements, I'm trying to cut at the moment and have still managed to gain weight.
Sounds too good to be true right? It isn't all good news, I've been advised that shutdown from 19-nor's can be quite severe, so without proper PCT you could be in trouble. I've also been told that despite it being a non-methyl, stress on the liver can be quite harsh, though with the proper support supps you should be fine.
10195079
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I was running it at 70mg (as recommended by the manufacturer) for the first 2 weeks, but over the last 2 days I have bumped it up to 105mg and will run it at this dose for the remainder of my cycle.
Because I only experienced sides for the first 3 days, I initally thought the product was garbage. I remember during my run with epi, I had that 'on' feeling the entire time.
My libido has not suffered at all, though this could change as I come to the end of my cycle.
My moods have not been altered at all either, though I'm pretty laid back in general. Its like Valentino said, roids will turn a little a$$hole into a big a$$hole.
If you use the strength increase this product causes to your advantage, eat and sleep right, I think you can use this product to make some great gains/changes.
Because I only experienced sides for the first 3 days, I initally thought the product was garbage. I remember during my run with epi, I had that 'on' feeling the entire time.
My libido has not suffered at all, though this could change as I come to the end of my cycle.
My moods have not been altered at all either, though I'm pretty laid back in general. Its like Valentino said, roids will turn a little a$$hole into a big a$$hole.
If you use the strength increase this product causes to your advantage, eat and sleep right, I think you can use this product to make some great gains/changes.
10195079
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PCT is Nolva and PCS, Nolva at 20mg for 4 weeks and PCS as recommended by the manufacturer for 4 weeks.
I'm not at big fan of the 'take everything' approach to support supps, so I kept things basic:
ADAM multi, 2 times a day.
Fish Oil, 6000mg (split between 3 doses)
NAC, 1200mg (split between 2 doses)
Vitamin C, 3000mg (split between 3 doses)
CoQ 10, 300mg (split between 2 doses)
Glucosamine, 1500mg (split between 2 doses)
ZMA, (taken at night)
Gut Health, (once in the evening)
I'm getting additional antioxidants from several cups of green tea and drinking large amounts of water each day (in excess of 2 litres).
Additionally, I'm eating 6 times a day (more fish and less carbs than normal because I'm cutting) and sleeping 8 hours (minimum) every night.
I'm not at big fan of the 'take everything' approach to support supps, so I kept things basic:
ADAM multi, 2 times a day.
Fish Oil, 6000mg (split between 3 doses)
NAC, 1200mg (split between 2 doses)
Vitamin C, 3000mg (split between 3 doses)
CoQ 10, 300mg (split between 2 doses)
Glucosamine, 1500mg (split between 2 doses)
ZMA, (taken at night)
Gut Health, (once in the evening)
I'm getting additional antioxidants from several cups of green tea and drinking large amounts of water each day (in excess of 2 litres).
Additionally, I'm eating 6 times a day (more fish and less carbs than normal because I'm cutting) and sleeping 8 hours (minimum) every night.
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That's perfect to hear/read. I'm running it with h-drol for 6 weeks.
Yes sir.
Oh, I'm going with t roid! Thanx.
GQNemesis
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oh i thought the troid was forty bbucks too .. read it wrong
yah t-roid isnt that bad a deal ..but i would put in an extra dollar and get the Xtreme Tren ..since there are loads of users who have used it with great results.