When in doubt empty the magazine... - GMG760's Epistane Cycle

Sooo, you'd run it at my "planned" dosing scheme? Or my new roided out dosing scheme?

I'm taking this mother to another level.
:FUfinger:

the roided out one, naturally!:head:

but that's just me. I am by no means condoning such behavior of a beginner steroid user. oh wait...I think I may have...inadvertantly, of course.
 
YES BUT I run Das FUHER's AA stack..... when you gots Adderall you don't need the E&C just the A to go with the A you already gots......

LOL... heavies is on the pharmacutical crank when he works out...

I used to take that **** to study with in college... **** would keep me wired for HOURS. Like an illegal white powder kinda wired...

So I just got my white flood in the mail a few days ago... I think I might start using it Pre-wo to get me more amped up. I dropped the caffeine intake for this cycle... and I really miss it. I was taking the superpump with my MMV2 and I loved it... think these next two weeks will be supercharged with some caffeine. I'll just up my hawthorn berries.
 
Off to destroy my chest. See you guys in a few.

yeah man, I want to see those numbers when I log in tonight...they better be rediculous!

and check the incline bench before you lift!!!!
 
Ok, so I got a pretty sick chest workout yesterday. Work is turning out to be crazy, so I haven't had much time to be online screwing around... I'll keep updating though and dropping by to make fun of you guys. :D


CHEST/TRICEPS

CHEST
Bench Press - 135x4, 185x4, 205x4, 225x4, 250x4, 225x4, 185x8, 135x10... killer pump. felt really strong.

Incline DB Press - 70x10, 80x10, 90x5, (really felt drained from my bench press)

Incline Hammerstrength - 2 platesx10, 3platesx6

Flat Hammerstrength - 1 plate x10, 2platesx 6

Decline Hammerstrength - 3 platesx10, 4 platesx4, 3 platesx10

Flys- 35x10, 45x10, 55x10

Triceps
Skull Crushers/CG bench - 35'sx10, 45'sx6, 55'sx4, 35'sx8
dips - 3 sets of 20
press downs (overhand and underhand superset) - 120x10, 140x10, 140x10

Chest is sooore today. :head:
 
Ok, so I got a pretty sick chest workout yesterday. Work is turning out to be crazy, so I haven't had much time to be online screwing around... I'll keep updating though and dropping by to make fun of you guys. :D


CHEST/TRICEPS

CHEST
Bench Press - 135x4, 185x4, 205x4, 225x4, 250x4, 225x4, 185x8, 135x10... killer pump. felt really strong.

Incline DB Press - 70x10, 80x10, 90x5, (really felt drained from my bench press)

Incline Hammerstrength - 2 platesx10, 3platesx6

Flat Hammerstrength - 1 plate x10, 2platesx 6

Decline Hammerstrength - 3 platesx10, 4 platesx4, 3 platesx10

Flys- 35x10, 45x10, 55x10

Triceps
Skull Crushers/CG bench - 35'sx10, 45'sx6, 55'sx4, 35'sx8
dips - 3 sets of 20
press downs (overhand and underhand superset) - 120x10, 140x10, 140x10

Chest is sooore today. :head:

Yikes!! That is alot of volume!! How's your recovery been cause when I hit 40mgs on that sht it was like I could do the same wo the next day but for real that IMO is WAY to much volume....
 
Yeah, it's more volume than I would use also. I can't pour all of my heart and soul into that many sets. I think people tend to hold back subconsciously to have something for the next few sets to come. You don't want to do that. I say after your warm-up sets do just 2 all-out worksets of each exercise!! But make sure they're all-out. No half-hearted sh*t will cut it!! DO IT DOOM CREW STYLE!! :head:
 
Yeah, it's more volume than I would use also. I can't pour all of my heart and soul into that many sets. I think people tend to hold back subconsciously to have something for the next few sets to come. You don't want to do that. I say after your warm-up sets do just 2 all-out worksets of each exercise!! But make sure they're all-out. No half-hearted sh*t will cut it!! DO IT DOOM CREW STYLE!! :head:

I know that was a high volume chest workout.

I probably doubled what I had done the previous weeks.

I honestly have felt like I hadn't reached what I thought was the "finishing" point of my workouts lately because I have been laying back on the volume. I think yesterday was over the line, I probably didn't need the hammerstrength presses at all, but I just had a hair up my ass about it yesterday. My shoulder started to pinch as well during the incline db press, so I had to back off to the 80, and I just decided at that point to hit the heavier weight on the hammerstrength, which is easy on my shoulder.

I also think the fact I drank my first dose of white flood yesterday might have had something to do with the intensity and drive to keep going...

Lately I have been going on what I thought "other people" around here would approve of, but I was pretty curious as to how I would feel doing a high volume workout after a while of lower volume work. After doing so I really think that the two both have their legitimacy. I know I am talking to a bunch of dudes who work out DC style and the whole strength before size thing... but if you can't experiment for yourself then you are just a poser who is going by what they have read, not what they have learned. I fell that 3 exercises is a good amount for me, but after doing so for around 10 weeks now I think a high volume "shock" to the musclegroup is good for growth. We'll see how my experiment pans out. My chest is sore as f*ck today.

Anyways, I am off to go eat 30mg of epithin and destroy my legs...

I am pretty much over the whole "I don't want to take my epistane" thing, and am thinking about breaking into the bottle so I can go to 50mg next week... what are the thoughts on this... I know it's where you had a gyno flare up BS... but then again pantera is running it up to 60mg and I have a good 15 lbs on him...:think:
 
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DJ Doom Crew in the Muthafvckin house.:djparty:
 
BTW, defniately noticing the leaning out effects of the epi... I got pretty soft week one, I think it was just glycogen from the big increase in the carbs, I am back down to almost where I was at the end of my cut... except 7 lbs heavier... lets see if I can keep these gains comming!
 
Dude if your feeling it def go to 50mgs IMO. I had some gyno issues as a teen so that was a large part of it IMO. If your good in that regard though I say do it. Keep your h2o intake high as fcuk cause epi is still toxic even though it's not super/phea toxic.
If your digging the volume try some GVT training homie that sht used to be my favourite back in the day!! Go search it at BB.com if your interested. It'll def give you pumps like you've never had before unless you've tried it so........and it's the polar opposite of DC also but I tell you this it's not for the faint of heart so consider yourself warned. I'll be doing it again once I start my Test later this fall/earlly winter:thumbsup:
 
Dude if your feeling it def go to 50mgs IMO. I had some gyno issues as a teen so that was a large part of it IMO. If your good in that regard though I say do it. Keep your h2o intake high as fcuk cause epi is still toxic even though it's not super/phea toxic.
If your digging the volume try some GVT training homie that sht used to be my favourite back in the day!! Go search it at BB.com if your interested. It'll def give you pumps like you've never had before unless you've tried it so........and it's the polar opposite of DC also but I tell you this it's not for the faint of heart so consider yourself warned. I'll be doing it again once I start my Test later this fall/earlly winter:thumbsup:

That's it then, I am going to 50mg... :twisted:

I drink water like a fish.

I'll check out that GVT training. The volume was just to shock my chest... I am gonna stay at the low volume for another 4-5 weeks most likely... probably until the end of my PCT. Then a natty cycle for a month or two, and then off to phera... maybe some test...
 
Yikes!! That is alot of volume!! How's your recovery been cause when I hit 40mgs on that sht it was like I could do the same wo the next day but for real that IMO is WAY to much volume....

I'd have to agree.But I did lots of volume back in the day too.I feel like most do too much in one workout now that I started DC and have been seeing good results.Cause I do so little for 1 muscle every 4-5 days,get sore,drained,wore the fvck out.......all that stuff.Never crazy sore though,but thats actually good.The faster a muscle can heal,the better.It's one of the millions of catch 22's with weight lifting.
My plan now is if/when I take a break from dc,to do dorian yates style.A true split routine,multiple exercises for 1 muscle,but only 1 work set per exercise taken to complete and absolute failure after warm ups.
I highly suggest to any and everyone who does the same 'ole same 'ole,to look into DC and/or low volume high intensity work outs.It has changed the way I view lifting,and I feel for the absolute better!What do most people in the gym do?Multiple sets of multiple workouts for 1 muscle in 1 workout.How do most people in the gym look?
 
Yeah, it's more volume than I would use also. I can't pour all of my heart and soul into that many sets. I think people tend to hold back subconsciously to have something for the next few sets to come. You don't want to do that. I say after your warm-up sets do just 2 all-out worksets of each exercise!! But make sure they're all-out. No half-hearted sh*t will cut it!! DO IT DOOM CREW STYLE!! :head:

No one can TG.When FOOFAC(where the hell is he?Vacation huh?)told me that people subconsiously hold back on beginning sets cause they know they have more to come.Well I thought he was full of sh!t.Ya know?I thought I give it my all,I'm different than others that he's talking about!But when I went to low volume(DC)I seen exactly where he was comming from.It's amasing the change that happens when you tell yourself and/or know that this is it after warming up.This set,and it's done!End of story.Not again for another 4-5 days.I used this analogy before,but it's the differnce of having a loaded gun,or one shot left........
 
Lately I have been going on what I thought "other people" around here would approve of, but I was pretty curious as to how I would feel doing a high volume workout after a while of lower volume work. After doing so I really think that the two both have their legitimacy. I know I am talking to a bunch of dudes who work out DC style and the whole strength before size thing... but if you can't experiment for yourself then you are just a poser who is going by what they have read, not what they have learned. I fell that 3 exercises is a good amount for me, but after doing so for around 10 weeks now I think a high volume "shock" to the musclegroup is good for growth. We'll see how my experiment pans out. My chest is sore as f*ck today.

Anyways, I am off to go eat 30mg of epithin and destroy my legs...

I am pretty much over the whole "I don't want to take my epistane" thing, and am thinking about breaking into the bottle so I can go to 50mg next week... what are the thoughts on this... I know it's where you had a gyno flare up BS... but then again pantera is running it up to 60mg and I have a good 15 lbs on him...:think:

I know what you're going through man.It's hard to tell yourself that less is actually more.But it truly is,if done right!I have done 25 working sets for bi's before cause I read thats what Markus Ruhel does............Before I learned how to eat right,all I did was work more and more.Thats what society makes you believe,If you want it badly,you have to work harder and longer.9 times out of 10 in bb'ing,you need to eat more though,not exercise more.I just recently got into the strength before size cause I want to be stronger.At the same time though,I have always looked at getting stronger as a means to an end to getting bigger.Get the same reps with proper form but more weight,and you will grow!Proper form is huge though.I could loosen the form,let the weights drop,loose the mind muslce connection for a few extra lbs,but as a bb'r.....no fvcking way!It's def good to experiment,thats how I became so strong with my current beliefs.........And today is my second day at 60.
 
I know what you're going through man.It's hard to tell yourself that less is actually more.But it truly is,if done right!I have done 25 working sets for bi's before cause I read thats what Markus Ruhel does............Before I learned how to eat right,all I did was work more and more.Thats what society makes you believe,If you want it badly,you have to work harder and longer.9 times out of 10 in bb'ing,you need to eat more though,not exercise more.I just recently got into the strength before size cause I want to be stronger.At the same time though,I have always looked at getting stronger as a means to an end to getting bigger.Get the same reps with proper form but more weight,and you will grow!Proper form is huge though.I could loosen the form,let the weights drop,loose the mind muslce connection for a few extra lbs,but as a bb'r.....no fvcking way!It's def good to experiment,thats how I became so strong with my current beliefs.........And today is my second day at 60.

All good points Pantera.

BS - my recovery has been complete each week, I have felt 100% for each muscle group prior to the workout. My chest feels the most worked out this week as compared to the previous weeks, and if it is not sore next week, I will have some indication that my little experiment with volume might be working in my favor. Time/Recovery will tell.
 
All good points Pantera.

BS - my recovery has been complete each week, I have felt 100% for each muscle group prior to the workout. My chest feels the most worked out this week as compared to the previous weeks, and if it is not sore next week, I will have some indication that my little experiment with volume might be working in my favor. Time/Recovery will tell.

Cool, I like frequency over volume these days myself, But just remember, "Everything works but NOTHING works forever":thumbsup:
 
Great discussion going on here boyz!! :thumbsup: I love talking shop!! Pantera you will notice in my latest workouts, I've adopted a variation of DC/Thundergod training. It's like a marriage of DC and Mentzer H.I.T training. Very much like Dorian Yates' training routines. I'll use DC methods on my basic exercise for the muscle group. Then I'll add a back off set at less weight for some really strict reps with slow negatives and static holds at the end. And then I add different exercises to hit the muscle from different angles and such. You have to mix things up every now and then to shock your muscles into new growth like Blackie is saying. NOTHING works forever!! You've made a good choice to stick to DC for the rest of your cycle and PCT. Then a switch over to a more Dorian Yates style workout will be a wonderful change to your training. You'll start a whole new growth spurt!! If you need any of Dorian Yates' routines, hit me up in the PM's. I'll write you one out!! You guys come check out my workout report from this morning. It was totally off the hook!! ROCK ON DOOM CREW!!:head:
 
Great discussion going on here boyz!! :thumbsup: I love talking shop!! Pantera you will notice in my latest workouts, I've adopted a variation of DC/Thundergod training. It's like a marriage of DC and Mentzer H.I.T training. Very much like Dorian Yates' training routines. I'll use DC methods on my basic exercise for the muscle group. Then I'll add a back off set at less weight for some really strict reps with slow negatives and static holds at the end. And then I add different exercises to hit the muscle from different angles and such. You have to mix things up every now and then to shock your muscles into new growth like Blackie is saying. NOTHING works forever!! You've made a good choice to stick to DC for the rest of your cycle and PCT. Then a switch over to a more Dorian Yates style workout will be a wonderful change to your training. You'll start a whole new growth spurt!! If you need any of Dorian Yates' routines, hit me up in the PM's. I'll write you one out!! You guys come check out my workout report from this morning. It was totally off the hook!! ROCK ON DOOM CREW!!:head:

Yeah, I actually have been plotting next week and the week after to make sure I get the most out of my last 2 weeks. What I've come up with, which I think I will be using next week, is a combination of low rep, really high weight, and light weight negatives. I think you just gave me a good idea of how to do it, TG.

For ex.

Bench (x 2)
1 x 4 @ 305lb
1 x failure @ 135lb (doing negative reps)

Repeat for incline and decline...

What do you think, TG?
 
Yeah, I actually have been plotting next week and the week after to make sure I get the most out of my last 2 weeks. What I've come up with, which I think I will be using next week, is a combination of low rep, really high weight, and light weight negatives. I think you just gave me a good idea of how to do it, TG.

For ex.

Bench (x 2)
1 x 4 @ 305lb
1 x failure @ 135lb (doing negative reps)

Repeat for incline and decline...

What do you think, TG?
Damn dude!!! I didn't know you could hit 305 X 4!! That's strong for your bodyweight!! But that's a little lower-rep than I prefer. I would do (judging your strength level) 1 X 8 @ 270 or so. Then for the second lighter back-off set I would go 1 X failure @ 185 with an emphasis on slower negatives. The 135 would be too light in my opinion. You can do this thing however you want to of course, but I would keep the reps higher than 4 on the heavy set, and I wouldn't lighten up the second set so much. At 135 you should be able to pound out 25 reps or so. That's too many IMO!! The 185 with the emphasis on slow reps with strict form, then slow negatives at the end of the set should knock your reps down to around 12 or so. That's better for muscle growth. This is just the way I would do it!! :thumbsup:
 
Yeah, I actually have been plotting next week and the week after to make sure I get the most out of my last 2 weeks. What I've come up with, which I think I will be using next week, is a combination of low rep, really high weight, and light weight negatives. I think you just gave me a good idea of how to do it, TG.

For ex.

Bench (x 2)
1 x 4 @ 305lb
1 x failure @ 135lb (doing negative reps)

Repeat for incline and decline...

What do you think, TG?

How much do you weigh dude??
 
So I haven't been on much lately... I apologize for this.

I have been keeping up with my workouts, and having GREAT results at 40mg e/d.

My mood is great, my attitude in the gym is ferocious, and the weight is getting lighter and lighter. So here are the updates from the last two workouts.

LEGS

Quad extention - 45's x10, 45'sx10
Squat - 135x10, 185x10, 225x10, 275x6 (PR!)
RDL - 225x10, 315x4, 405x1 YEA BUDDY!
Leg press - 4 platesx10, 5platesx10, 6platesx10
Seated calves - 100x20, 120x20, 140x15


BACK/BICEPS

BACK

Pull ups - felt a pinch in my trap during my first pull up. felt it the rest of the day... gone now... kinda was bugging me but I still got a good workout. 15, 15, 10, 8
Bent BB row - 135x10, 185x10, 205x10 (PR!)
CG Pull downs - 140x10, 160x10, 180x10 (PR)
TBAR rows - 2 platesx10, 3 platesx10, 4 platesx10
Low lat pull downs - 50x10, 60x10, 60x10... my lat really started to bug me on this one.

Biceps
BB curl superset with DB curl
95lbsx10 w/ 25x10, 95x10 w/ 35x10, 95x10 w/ 45x6

Cable curls under/overhand grip superset - 120x10 each, 140x10 each

concentration curls - 30x10 x3sets

GREAT WORKOUT!!! CANT WAIT TO GET SHOULDERS TODAY.

I am pouring out a shaker full of protein for my fallen soldiers Heavies, Pantera, Dkkon, and BS of course. RIP guys... I'm sticking around here at AM, but I know where to find you fools.

I wish this whole freaking mess never started. Whatever. Keep on pushin. I'm surprised T-lake and I are still around. Oh well. TG, TG2, T-lake, You all still with me?
 
I'm still with you guys. I'll help you with any kind of training, nutritional, or supplementational issues that I can. I'm here for your support as well. You are still my boyz, so let's keep training like freakin' beasts and breakin' sh*t like always!! It's how the others would have wanted it!! KEEP BLASTIN' DAT IRON YOU FREAKIN' MANIACS!!! :fool2::aargh::head:
 
Damn dude!!! I didn't know you could hit 305 X 4!! That's strong for your bodyweight!! But that's a little lower-rep than I prefer. I would do (judging your strength level) 1 X 8 @ 270 or so. Then for the second lighter back-off set I would go 1 X failure @ 185 with an emphasis on slower negatives. The 135 would be too light in my opinion. You can do this thing however you want to of course, but I would keep the reps higher than 4 on the heavy set, and I wouldn't lighten up the second set so much. At 135 you should be able to pound out 25 reps or so. That's too many IMO!! The 185 with the emphasis on slow reps with strict form, then slow negatives at the end of the set should knock your reps down to around 12 or so. That's better for muscle growth. This is just the way I would do it!! :thumbsup:

Well, last week I did 295, so next week I was going to try to top it off by 10, but your suggestion makes a lot of sense. And you're right about the 135lb also. I normally warmup w/ 20 @ 135lb, so even w/ negs and after a heavy set it might be too light. I'm going to try this way and see how it works out.
 
Today I got shoulders... and took my first 50mg dose of epi... finally what feels about right... I feel like I am on the sauce finally. F*ck 30mg, even 40mg wasn't ****. 50mg... that's more like what I was thinking I was gonna feel like. No sides yet... a little shut down... still beating my girls pussy up like a 15 year old in a whorehouse, but there is less volume when I nut, making me think I am a bit shut down. Whatever, I'll shoot blanks, I dont give a ****, as long as my johnson still stands at attention, I could care less. I think I am gonna take this ***** for 6 weeks... what you guys think? 60mg anyone?!!! This means I am gonna have to break into my epistane... :twisted:... lets see if I can eat two whole bottles in 6 weeks hehehehehehe.... j/k.... sort of.

Shoulders

Military
135x10 like a feather... 155x10 still light, 185x5 (PR!!!) That one was for all my fallen Doom Crew brethren... and those still with us, especially TG!!!, dropped 135x10

Upright rows - 95x10, 115x10, 135x10, 135x8

lateral/front/rear delt raise tri-set from hell - 20's x 10 each, 30's x 10 each, 40's x6 each (PR)... the 40's were rough. But I felt strong. SOOO MUCH Vascularity its recockulous.

BB Shrugs - 225x20, 315x10, 365x10, 225x20

Hammerstrength miltiary press - plates to exaustion

forearms - reverse grip curls - 45x10, 65x10, 65x10

BB wrist curls - 45x20, 65x20, 65x20

I am feeling great... no sides yet other than the small loads... no hair loss, no loss of libido, just great gains in strength and I am getting bigger... noticably... a lot of the trainers at my gym who never talked to me before are all on my jock now, asking me what I am taking/ what I do for training etc... kinda an ego kick.

I keep getting these scared/impressed looks from little dudes/chicks and envious looks from the guys who I know cycle but arn't on right now... hehe. What a good workout...
 
New anthem cause I don't give a **** anymore... This thread is gonna go nuts from here on out. No more of this sensible bullsh!t. It's time to bring some madness back in this neck of the woods. I've got a few bad ideas left in me, and I think I am gonna spread them all over this thread.

DOOM CREW.

"You call me anti-social? Well you're ****ing right. Cause I hate this goddamn world, and everyone in sight. I've got some kind of hate." -Blood for Blood

For B.S. Dkkon and Heavies... taken before their time. ;)
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Right on my brother!! I'm not going to change who I am, nor how I act just to keep from getting banned!! If it happens.....it happens!! DOOM CREW 4-LIFE!!! :head:
 
Today I got shoulders... and took my first 50mg dose of epi... finally what feels about right... I feel like I am on the sauce finally. F*ck 30mg, even 40mg wasn't ****. 50mg... that's more like what I was thinking I was gonna feel like. No sides yet... a little shut down... still beating my girls pussy up like a 15 year old in a whorehouse, but there is less volume when I nut, making me think I am a bit shut down. Whatever, I'll shoot blanks, I dont give a ****, as long as my johnson still stands at attention, I could care less. I think I am gonna take this ***** for 6 weeks... what you guys think? 60mg anyone?!!! This means I am gonna have to break into my epistane... :twisted:... lets see if I can eat two whole bottles in 6 weeks hehehehehehe.... j/k.... sort of.

Shoulders

Military
135x10 like a feather... 155x10 still light, 185x5 (PR!!!) That one was for all my fallen Doom Crew brethren... and those still with us, especially TG!!!, dropped 135x10

Upright rows - 95x10, 115x10, 135x10, 135x8

lateral/front/rear delt raise tri-set from hell - 20's x 10 each, 30's x 10 each, 40's x6 each (PR)... the 40's were rough. But I felt strong. SOOO MUCH Vascularity its recockulous.

BB Shrugs - 225x20, 315x10, 365x10, 225x20

Hammerstrength miltiary press - plates to exaustion

forearms - reverse grip curls - 45x10, 65x10, 65x10

BB wrist curls - 45x20, 65x20, 65x20

I am feeling great... no sides yet other than the small loads... no hair loss, no loss of libido, just great gains in strength and I am getting bigger... noticably... a lot of the trainers at my gym who never talked to me before are all on my jock now, asking me what I am taking/ what I do for training etc... kinda an ego kick.

I keep getting these scared/impressed looks from little dudes/chicks and envious looks from the guys who I know cycle but arn't on right now... hehe. What a good workout...

Rock that sh!t, home slice! Nice work on the mils.

And as for shooting blanks, you said it. So your supersoaker is going "drip, drip" instead "squirt, squirt". So your sack is a little tighter than you're used to. So what? As long your soldiers always ready for action, who cares? At least that's my motto.
 
just posted my cycle, a lot of the ideas came from talking to you guys and reading off your logs. tg, never directly spoke to you but wouldn't mind any feedback you can give
 
dude, i don't even know how to get a picture up on this biatch......nevermind throw a link on here

Copy and paste the URL. the board makes the link for you.

You can post a picture by hitting the manage attachments button and uploading a photo.
 
LOL... my name isn't GMC:lol:

GMG homie...
Or G-Money!! Now, that's just cool!! So how's the higher dose of Epi treating ya bro? Did you say you ate 40 mg. pre-workout last time?!! WOW!! How long B4 the workout did you take 'em? I remember heavies talking about how he dosed sh*t 3 hours pre-workout due to the length of the half-life of the compounds. D-Bol for instance, has a half-life of 6 hours....generally. Peak blood concentrations occur at the 3 hour point after ingestion. So it does make some sense to me. I've been meaning to either run this topic by PistonPump (he knows his sh*t) or even starting a thread about it to get more opinions. I'm very intrigued about this issue. I want to get the most workout aggression and benefit from my gear. So I want to be taking it long enough B4 the workout to be at peak concentrations!! 1 hour may not be long enough like we've all been told. :think:
 
Or G-Money!! Now, that's just cool!! So how's the higher dose of Epi treating ya bro? Did you say you ate 40 mg. pre-workout last time?!! WOW!! How long B4 the workout did you take 'em? I remember heavies talking about how he dosed sh*t 3 hours pre-workout due to the length of the half-life of the compounds. D-Bol for instance, has a half-life of 6 hours....generally. Peak blood concentrations occur at the 3 hour point after ingestion. So it does make some sense to me. I've been meaning to either run this topic by PistonPump (he knows his sh*t) or even starting a thread about it to get more opinions. I'm very intrigued about this issue. I want to get the most workout aggression and benefit from my gear. So I want to be taking it long enough B4 the workout to be at peak concentrations!! 1 hour may not be long enough like we've all been told. :think:

Eh... the hour mark is about where I start to feel that uneasy, tight feeling in my stomach, and I start amping up... An hour feels about right for me, but if we learn that it's 3 hours, then I'll definately change my routine.

I liked the 40mg p/wo... I may have to bump up my dosage to 60mg next week though, I think that I might want to spread the doseage out more across the day, so I might take 30mg today pre workout, and 10mg in the morning, and 10mg in the evening, and wait for the 40mg p/wo till next week. I have only dosed 40 mg p/wo once... I think 30mg might be just as good... not sure though... I think I am gonna try just 30mg p/wo today... might change my mind. lol.
 
I liked the 40mg p/wo... I may have to bump up my dosage to 60mg next week though, I think that I might want to spread the doseage out more across the day, so I might take 30mg today pre workout, and 10mg in the morning, and 10mg in the evening, and wait for the 40mg p/wo till next week. I have only dosed 40 mg p/wo once... I think 30mg might be just as good... not sure though... I think I am gonna try just 30mg p/wo today... might change my mind. lol.

You're a fcukin' madman...A FCUKIN' MADMAN, I TELL YOU!!!
 
You're a fcukin' madman...A FCUKIN' MADMAN, I TELL YOU!!!

We apparently react very different to the epi... it's taken a pretty big dose for me to get that "rage", and it only lasts for the gym for me... I am really mellow on this designer.

G-Mack, lol... I haven't heard that one before.

I should start a solo project aside from my main band called Gmoney with special sauce. lmao.
 
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