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BlackSheep's: NO BS M-Drol Quickie!!!!!

Dis is fo you Heavies:.....

ATTENTION:Anyone who feels the DOOM CREW is out of line or inappropriate please consult the complaint department....Have a nice day:thumbsup:
 

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TimberLakers said:
Man, I can't understand you when we can't curse...
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LMAO..... thats bad.......

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I was editing myself....... sorry for the confusion..... I am just proving to myself that I am a changed man...... shhhhhhhh! big brother is watching....LOL JK JP LMAO I am not serious I am a LIAR
 
heavies said:
LMAO..... thats bad.......

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I was editing myself....... sorry for the confusion..... I am just proving to myself that I am a changed man...... shhhhhhhh! big brother is watching....LOL JK JP LMAO I am not serious I am a LIAR
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Not being an ass or anything, but this is a serious question. If ya'll have a problem with the mods, and how the board is run, then why not just open a Doom Crew Forum yourself? It is relatively inexpensive for a start up, and you all have enough people to do so.

You all just seem very unhappy with being here because of the rules set in place.

Honest question, no ill intent implied.

Adams
 
DAdams91982 said:
Not being an ass or anything, but this is a serious question. If ya'll have a problem with the mods, and how the board is run, then why not just open a Doom Crew Forum yourself? It is relatively inexpensive for a start up, and you all have enough people to do so.

You all just seem very unhappy with being here because of the rules set in place.

Honest question, no ill intent implied.

Adams
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I'm just having a good time with it....... I thought it was funny thats why I put the JK JP LOL after it all..... It was just me being cynical...my bad...

I just don't understand the need for such legalism. I mean yeah we fvcked up with MS, but other than that we have stayed within our threads and left everyone else alone....... now our every move is being tracked, and that makes me feel like I am in the matrix personally.
 
heavies said:
I'm just having a good time with it....... I thought it was funny thats why I put the JK JP LOL after it all..... It was just me being cynical...my bad...

I just don't understand the need for such legalism. I mean yeah we fvcked up with MS, but other than that we have stayed within our threads and left everyone else alone....... now our every move is being tracked, and that makes me feel like I am in the matrix personally.
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I dont think you are being tracked... or a mod would have made comments about the many comments of angering them.

I think you are all good to go anywhere on the board, just slow down on the mod comments. Only because there is alot of truth said in jest.

Adams
 
DAdams91982 said:
I dont think you are being tracked... or a mod would have made comments about the many comments of angering them.

I think you are all good to go anywhere on the board, just slow down on the mod comments. Only because there is alot of truth said in jest.

Adams
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I feel ya, and your right many things are hidden within humor........ thanx for the post.
 
TimberLakers said:
I don't think anyone has a problem with how the board is run... I have never spoken out against mods.
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No you haven't.... I......... maybe might could did possible absolutely not have done the aforementioned thing......

edit****** but I am over it now DA is cool..... so I will drop the cynical sh!t....
 
TimberLakers said:
I don't think anyone has a problem with how the board is run... I have never spoken out against mods.
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I don't have a problem with the mods or anyone on this board for that matter. It was all in good fun....I thought. When I'm attacked, I have the uncontrollable urge to retaliate and protect myself. That's just following the self-preservation instinct!! I am a very kind and thoughtful person. Just don't wrong me, and I won't release the demons!! :smite:
 
DAdams91982 said:
Not being an ass or anything, but this is a serious question. If ya'll have a problem with the mods, and how the board is run, then why not just open a Doom Crew Forum yourself? It is relatively inexpensive for a start up, and you all have enough people to do so.

You all just seem very unhappy with being here because of the rules set in place.

Honest question, no ill intent implied.

Adams
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I gotta say it's very,very,very uncanny that you brought this up. I was just thinking about putting something like that together. Just to try at least. I'm no programmer but i think i could figure it out. Any advice adams, PM if you have some. Much obliged.
 
dkkon1 said:
I gotta say it's very,very,very uncanny that you brought this up. I was just thinking about putting something like that together. Just to try at least. I'm no programmer but i think i could figure it out. Any advice adams, PM if you have some. Much obliged.
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software and a domain name......
 
DAdams91982 said:
Sorry... didnt mean to sidetrack ya'lls thread. Just don't want to see unnecessary ban's for people that do contribute.

Adams
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D@mn brother, You finally show up and the party is pretty much over already :(. O' well pct starts tomorrow.
And for the record I personally talked to Jayhawkk yesterday and he was hella cool:thumbsup:
 
DAdams91982 said:
I wasnt even invited prior. WTF? :(

Adams
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Dude I though about that as I wrote my prior post. This sht just got carried away in here and before you know it two weeks was over :(. I could have swore that I saw you in one of the first few pages though?? No?? IDK, I get lost around here alot. My bad brother. I'll be pinnin Test prop before to long and I'll def invite you to that party.:thumbsup:
 
BlackSheep said:
Dude I though about that as I wrote my prior post. This sht just got carried away in here and before you know it two weeks was over :(. I could have swore that I saw you in one of the first few pages though?? No?? IDK, I get lost around here alot. My bad brother. I'll be pinnin Test prop before to long and I'll def invite you to that party.:thumbsup:
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Now your speaking my language... what type of layout you thinking? Cutting? Bulking?

Adams
 
DAdams91982 said:
Now your speaking my language... what type of layout you thinking? Cutting? Bulking?

Adams
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I see what happened....You weren't on my buddy list so I unknowingly didn't send the invite but your on there now so... we're BFF now FOREVER lol..
I'll be bulking, 100mgs eod, 4 days a week, .5 adex maybe eod or as needed. No dbol (gyno prone) 6-8 weeks. Starting sometime around October first-ish...
 
When I used to pin I never received too much knowledge of PCT, but I was fortunate enough to have a medic give and tell me to take clomid. I am trying to figure out what is the best to take to keep gains out of clomid, nolva or torem? I have 6 OXO as well. So what it is Doom Crew?!?!
 
Ya'll already know that I am on M drol. Starting week 3 and still do not feel much of anything similar to how I felt on Epidrol earlier this year. :aargh: :frustrate
 
Papa T said:
When I used to pin I never received too much knowledge of PCT, but I was fortunate enough to have a medic give and tell me to take clomid. I am trying to figure out what is the best to take to keep gains out of clomid, nolva or torem? I have 6 OXO as well. So what it is Doom Crew?!?!
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Well that all depends on what kind of gear your using bro. For something like superdrol Nolva is fine IMO. In fact that's what I'm using but it's really up to you. Clomid can have some nasty sides so IMO it should NEVER be used for more that the initial first few days to help jump start the HTPA again followed by nolva ran at a dose of our discretion. 3 weeks of super though and I'd go 30,30,20,10. You could do 40mgs for the first few days to get it in your system faster but unless you have a problem there is no need IMHO. Look around at LB.com for Dinoiii's pct articles..
 
bassgod272 said:
Do nolva at 40,40,40,30,30,30,30/30/20/10 and if you want to restore your HPTA faster, do clomid at 50mg every night before bed. DON'T use the 6-OXO. An AI should not be used during a Superdrol PCT. Ph, and you DEF won't feel anything like you did on Epidrol. They are 2 totally different compounds and IMO Epidrol is 100000X better. I will never use Superdrol again.
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What?!?!?! I liked superdrol better kinda. The sides were worse but I couldn't feel anything at all on Epidrol until.......my nipps started hurting that is lol.. There both junk IMO.:thumbsup: But the strength gains on super were worth it:head:
 
I started my pct today. Took a tab of DTHC before breakfast this morning and I've been taking nolva low dosed for a few days already so I'll up it to 30mgs tonight. IDK, I was going to do the typical 40mgs but Dinoiii seems to disagree with this so, who am I to argue with that dude right.
IDK what say you bass? Also I don't think I'll run the nolva for 4 weeks I'd like to keep it at just 3, I mean the cycle was only 14 days long so..
Fcuk it I'll do what needs be done but I know that nolva use dose increase the number of estro receptors in the tissues it block it from so I'd like to keep that bullsht to a minimum. (At least that's what I read) Especially since I have a prop run coming.
 
bassgod272 said:
TTTTEEEESSSSTTTT!!! YEA BUDDY!!!! PH's are for pus$ies! :lol: You want strength gains, get yo self some TREN :twisted:
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Fcuk, yea right my nipps leak off these ph's I could only imagine that sht!!
On that note my nipps are already fcuking leaking.....YEA!!:thumbsup:
Fcukin, fcuk!! Why the fcuk!!! do guys have nipps any the fcukin way!?!?!?
How should I dose this Vitex? I would like to not have to use the p5p cause I think that stuff was fcuking with me as far as the leaky nipps coming back every time I came off it for more than an hour lol...
My Vitex caps are 300mgs so I was going to do 300mgs morning, noon, night for 4 weeks?? Of course tappering that sht down 900mgs, 600mgs, 300mgs, 300mgs eod?
 
BlackSheep said:
Why not??
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It's the one thing I'd believe to be a liver killer.... haha. But it just jacks up strength and hardness along with aggression. I'm going to take a break from PHs and whatnot for a little while. Focus on eating red meat, etc. I don't like PCTs ;)
 
Force of Green said:
It's the one thing I'd believe to be a liver killer.... haha. But it just jacks up strength and hardness along with aggression. I'm going to take a break from PHs and whatnot for a little while. Focus on eating red meat, etc. I don't like PCTs ;)
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Halo is a killer of a liver, but problem is people wanted to run "cycles" of it. This isnt what Halo is really for. Its for every once in a while dropping a few MG's before a workout, and raging through the iron. This is why fighters get their hands on it for a fight. makes you fvckin nuts strait up.

If you have tried cheque drops, same thing, just a shlt ton more intense.

Adams
 
Papa T said:
When I used to pin I never received too much knowledge of PCT, but I was fortunate enough to have a medic give and tell me to take clomid. I am trying to figure out what is the best to take to keep gains out of clomid, nolva or torem? I have 6 OXO as well. So what it is Doom Crew?!?!
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many in the BB community feel clomid is pointless, I would say nolva and bigtime Test booster..... lots of zinc DHEA and try and pick up some extra calories.......
 
heavies said:
many in the BB community feel clomid is pointless, I would say nolva and bigtime Test booster..... lots of zinc DHEA and try and pick up some extra calories.......
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I disagree with this statement. If you know the workings of both, restarting natural testosterone is helped more by clomid. Nolva has the blocking of estrogen at the breast tissue yes, and obviously has its place. But the LH stimulating properties of Clomid is unsurpassed. Hence the reason porn stars use it to sometimes triple the size of their load... for that all inclusive money shot.

Each has their place, and really dont place one above the other, but you cannot ignore the science behind the fertility drug clomid as a use. Does it turn you into a whiney little girl? oh yeah.

Adams
 
DAdams91982 said:
I disagree with this statement. If you know the workings of both, restarting natural testosterone is helped more by clomid. Nolva has the blocking of estrogen at the breast tissue yes, and obviously has its place. But the LH stimulating properties of Clomid is unsurpassed. Hence the reason porn stars use it to sometimes triple the size of their load... for that all inclusive money shot.

Each has their place, and really dont place one above the other, but you cannot ignore the science behind the fertility drug clomid as a use. Does it turn you into a whiney little girl? oh yeah.

Adams
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I disagree as well....

Out of over 100
bodybuilders I questioned, about 1 in 4 experienced in the use of steroids and aromatase
blockers admitted that Clomid didn't have the effects they were hoping for. Many also
claimed that Nolvadex, which has a very similar structure to Clomid, caused a loss in
libido and a weak ejaculation. Even among those who felt it helped them, there were
complaints about "emotional distress" and "weepiness", both of which suggest an
increase in estrogen.
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There are several major problems associated with Clomid, as well as Arimidex,
Nolvadex, Teslac or any other estrogen blocker. For one thing, all these compounds are
indiscriminate in how much estrogen they block. So what's bad about that? Well, the
whole point of using an anti-estrogen is to protect against the spillover of estrogen that
comes with the excessive use of androgens. If the body can't metabolize all that
testosterone, it aromatizes into estrogens. What the experts fail to address is the fact that
the amount of aromatization varies greatly from individual to individual. If the steroid
dosages are moderate, there might not be any aromatization of any consequence, and the
anti-estrogens may lower levels below what they were normally! And keep one very
important fact in mind. A little estrogen in men is necessary for a healthy libido. (It's
also necessary for other things such as bone density, skin tone, etc., but I can't think of
anything more important to most men than their dicks.)
More recently, it's even been suggested that estrogen may play a role in the proliferation
of androgen receptors. This may explain why some experienced steroid users claim that
they get decreased results when adding an anti-estrogen to their stack. It was once
thought that anti-estrogens such as Nolvadex decreased IGF-1, but this has not been
validated with any concrete evidence. Nevertheless, studies done on rats found that
androgen receptor binding was dramatically increased after the administration of
estradiol, increasing the anabolic potency of the androgenic steroid. If nothing else, this
shows that estrogen is, on some level, directly or indirectly involved in the process of
promoting muscle growth. There's also the added element of strength and size gains due
to the water retention that estrogen inflicts. And just as a kicker, anti- estrogens may also
increase sex hormone binding globulin which is the last thing you want when coming off
a cycle.
In the case of Clomid, the effects may be even worse than other anti-estrogens since
Clomid is a mild estrogen itself. The basic theory behind its use (which is sounding more
and more stupid every day) is essentially that the Clomid will occupy the estrogen
receptor sites thus disallowing the formation of more estrogen. Maybe. What's more
likely in cases where estrogen levels are normal, the Clomid will simply add more
estrogen. This may the reason for some people's apparent aversion to Clomid and its
estrogen-like side effects.
Even if Clomid did lower estrogen, there's no evidence that lower estrogen will
necessarily lead to increased testosterone, yet this is the premise which everyone follows.
Clomid has also been known to produce a decrease in the LH response to LH releasing
hormone. This is something that has been known for a while, (findings on this date as far
back as 1978) yet curiously ignored. Naturally, studies aren't conducted to benefit the
bodybuilder on steroids, so we must learn to read between the line sometimes. In doing
so, conclusions can be drawn. All too often steroid gurus draw them incorrectly.
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I have NEVER used Clomid and only used Nova 1 time and have cycled numerous times and always retained over 70% of my gains..... there are BETTER ways to handle E and prevent Aroma. IMO......
 
heavies said:
I disagree as well....



I have NEVER used Clomid and only used Nova 1 time and have cycled numerous times and always retained over 70% of my gains..... there are BETTER ways to handle E and prevent Aroma. IMO......
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Like I said, I am not placing one above the other, but to say Clomid is useless is completely unfounded. Clomid has been recovering people long before Nolva, and has a better track record for safety. Nolva made me piss blood after cycle, I have never had that issue with clomid. Nolva is hard on both the liver, and the kidneys.

But like I said, everyone is different and responds differently to different compounds. Just stating that with its long track record, and still current use, you cannot say clomid is pointless. It is a safer alternative to the Chemo Therapy drug of Nolva.

Now if you want to get into the best of the best, then Torm is the way to go... best of all worlds.

Adams
 
DAdams91982 said:
Like I said, I am not placing one above the other, but to say Clomid is useless is completely unfounded. Clomid has been recovering people long before Nolva, and has a better track record for safety. Nolva made me piss blood after cycle, I have never had that issue with clomid. Nolva is hard on both the liver, and the kidneys.

But like I said, everyone is different and responds differently to different compounds. Just stating that with its long track record, and still current use, you cannot say clomid is pointless. It is a safer alternative to the Chemo Therapy drug of Nolva.

Now if you want to get into the best of the best, then Torm is the way to go... best of all worlds.

Adams
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Yeah, well all I was saying was that some, not necessarily me, say clomid is not worth it, thats all I was getting at......
 
heavies said:
Yeah, well all I was saying was that some, not necessarily me, say clomid is not worth it, thats all I was getting at......
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I hear ya.. just providing some good debate. Just didn't want him to think what he had on hand was useless for what he was trying to accomplish.

Adams
 
I would suggest just dunking your balls in grape juice for a couple hours twice daily. This is much better than clomid / nolva / torem... plus it dyes your sack.
 
DAdams91982 said:
Halo is a killer of a liver, but problem is people wanted to run "cycles" of it. This isnt what Halo is really for. Its for every once in a while dropping a few MG's before a workout, and raging through the iron. This is why fighters get their hands on it for a fight. makes you fvckin nuts strait up.

If you have tried cheque drops, same thing, just a shlt ton more intense.

Adams
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It is bad on the liver but no where near methyltrienolone or dimethyltrienolone, the most toxic but none stronger.........

Never got to do any cheque drops though......
 
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