Starting Havoc Cylce

jzp0010

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5'9"
177 lbs
max bench- 275

I just started a cycle of havoc plan on running it at 20/30/40/40
I preloaded AI Cycle Support for the last 10 days and am also taking multivitamin, glucosamine, and flax seed oil for the joints.

I have a very strict diet and training regime.

My diet is as follows:

Breakfast- 3 whole eggs, 2 egg whites 2 packets quaker weight control oatmeal, 1 banana

Midmorning snack- tuna fish on ezikal bread

Lunch- chicken breast on ezikal bread

Midafternoon snack- myoplex or protein bar

Preworkout- apple and handful of blueberries

Postworkout- 60g ON pro complex protein, enough raisins to equal about 100g of carbs

Dinner- 2 chicken breast, brown rice or quinoa, plate full of veggies

Evening snack- 1 cup skim milk, 2 cups 1% cottage cheese


As far as my training goes..

Mon- chest, back heavy
tues- bis, tris, shoulders heavy
wed- legs
thurs- chest, back light
fri- bis, tris, shoulders light
sat- legs light

For PCT i have nolva which ill run at 80 1st day followed by 40/30/20/10. I will be using superpump and some creatine monohydrate afterwards to help maintain my gains. I will also continue the AI cycle support.


I know its a ton of information but its the first ph cycle im running and I've researched the forums for the majority of this stuff but if anyone can help me with these questions that would be great.

I have some trib and ZMA lying around would it hurt to use that during my PCT?
I also have 6-oxo but at what time in my PCT should i run that?
Is the diet i have enough it equates to about 3500 calories?
Any other suggestions would be appreciated

Thanks
 
Alright man. your asking a question about PCt. If you dont know how to dose from a single epi cycle, i would not bother with ph's. but yes,, youd be tapering down the amount of ingerstion per week.
 
jzp0010 said:
yeah i got all that but as far as the diet goes is that enough food to be eating?
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work out how many calories that is per day and then tell me the total, and i'll help you from there... also if you can work out your daily intake of protein, carbohydrates and fats that would be useful in helping answer you.

:)
 
crowpass said:
Alright man. your asking a question about PCt. If you dont know how to dose from a single epi cycle, i would not bother with ph's. but yes,, youd be tapering down the amount of ingerstion per week.
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I'm sick of reading sh!t like this. "If you dont know how to dose from a single epi cycle, i would not bother with ph's" what??????????? where the fvck is he supposed to start?? its his first run. where did you start super star?? This guy has done his research, has everything in line, and is just asking for some help finalizing details. He's pretty specific in his diet and dosing and has obviously searched what people have used in the past. this website is for people to ask questions and learn, which is what he is doing. if you're going to give advice and then throw in a comment like that, just keep your fvcking mouth shut
 
hahaha i agree
I was just wondering with the 6oxo i should prolly start that on the 3rd week of my pct but i only bought the 60capsule bottle, so does anyone have any dosing suggestions?
 
You asked about 6-oxo and PCT here is some good info on that by Don

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Will you be doing a log for this?


CROWLER
 
I would also like to see a log. Thank you for using Cycle Support it has helped me on my cycles. I will include a link if you want to read up on the benefits of the ingredents in Cycle Support. I wish you the very best on your cycle.

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"I know its a ton of information but its the first ph cycle im running and I've researched the forums for the majority of this stuff but if anyone can help me with these questions that would be great."

My buddy tryed to convince me that havoc was just a ph simple as that. And i know many people think that ph and ps are the same thing. And in some ways i guess i cant argue. I know you've done your research but many people warned me Havoc is NOT a ph but a
steriod. Not trying to throw it in your face, just throwing it out there.
 
yeah thats what i planned on doing...

Thanks for you help I want to make a log for this but seeing as its been almost a week since ive started taking havoc.. it wont make sense
 
jzp0010 said:
yeah thats what i planned on doing...

Thanks for you help I want to make a log for this but seeing as its been almost a week since ive started taking havoc.. it wont make sense
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Good luck bro:thumbsup:
 
I also got my blood pressure tested 110/70 so thats fine

I just have one last question i should start 6 oxo in week 7 on my pct right and what dosages should i use for that?
 
austink3417 said:
I'm sick of reading sh!t like this. "If you dont know how to dose from a single epi cycle, i would not bother with ph's" what??????????? where the **** is he supposed to start?? its his first run. where did you start super star?? This guy has done his research, has everything in line, and is just asking for some help finalizing details. He's pretty specific in his diet and dosing and has obviously searched what people have used in the past. this website is for people to ask questions and learn, which is what he is doing. if you're going to give advice and then throw in a comment like that, just keep your ****ing mouth shut
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I agree. I give this bro credit. You can tell he has done his research and just would like some additional opinions on it. Everything seems to be pretty spot on. IMO, as long as you have nolva for PCT the 6-OXO really wouldnt be necessary, but definetly does not hurt.

One question though, maybe I missed you posting it. How old are you?
 
I'm going to be 22 in September i just upped to 40mg a day and still haven't been noticing any side effects, but i am going up in all my weights
 
i recommend a serm with the havoc i did the ol' otc route, advanced pct and activate extreme and ended up with my chest looking a lil pointy at the nips. no lumps or anything just a more slanted formation of the pecs.
 
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