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HCG during M1T cycle ?

BigFroggie

BigFroggie

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Hi guys,
I posted this trhead on the OTC forum but i didn't get answers so i moved it here :


I'm thinking about my next cycle, wich will be M1T for 3 or 4 weeks as I have some left.
But i need some advice for using HCG during this cycle.

- As M1T is quite suppressive, would it be a good idea to take HCG during the cycle (250 IU twice a week) ?

- And what about the last week ? PCT must start the day after the last M1T dose, but the last HCG would be taken 8 days before PCT and M1T is suppressive after 3-4days.
that means i need to stop HCG at the beginning of the last week (to be able to start PCT at the end of the week, the day after le last M1T administration) BUT during this last week i'll continue to take M1T for 7 days, so it'll suppress my own test production => It will have been useless to take HCG ?

Any advice ?


As it's my 1st post, some information :
I'm 36 years old, training for about 20 (discontinued). 165cm 72 kgs 12%BF.
Did a few cycles before (Deca 10 years ago, susta + eq last year, i'm finishing a 16 weeks cycle SD + Epi)

Cheers
JB
 
BigFroggie said:
Hi guys,
I posted this trhead on the OTC forum but i didn't get answers so i moved it here :


I'm thinking about my next cycle, wich will be M1T for 3 or 4 weeks as I have some left.
But i need some advice for using HCG during this cycle.

- As M1T is quite suppressive, would it be a good idea to take HCG during the cycle (250 IU twice a week) ?

- And what about the last week ? PCT must start the day after the last M1T dose, but the last HCG would be taken 8 days before PCT and M1T is suppressive after 3-4days.
that means i need to stop HCG at the beginning of the last week (to be able to start PCT at the end of the week, the day after le last M1T administration) BUT during this last week i'll continue to take M1T for 7 days, so it'll suppress my own test production => It will have been useless to take HCG ?

Any advice ?


As it's my 1st post, some information :
I'm 36 years old, training for about 20 (discontinued). 165cm 72 kgs 12%BF.
Did a few cycles before (Deca 10 years ago, susta + eq last year, i'm finishing a 16 weeks cycle SD + Epi)

Cheers
JB
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You're finishing a 16 week cycle of SUPERDROL AND EPISTANE?!! IS THIS CORRECT? Please describe this cycle.

-Papa!-
 
Welcome to AM BigFroggie. The only advice I can offer is to get bloodwork done ASAP to make sure you get lipids and hormones back in balance. Afterward wait until next year to run your M1T cycle. Health first and best of luck.
 
honestly.... the cycle u ran is suicide, seriously.

go2 the doctor & get checked out

if u run that m1t cycle anytime this year ur guna get toast. recovery time from a normal 4 weeker @the very minimum is: time on + pct

oral cycles are not like injectables. u cant run orals for a long period of time.
 
papapumpsd said:
You're finishing a 16 week cycle of SUPERDROL AND EPISTANE?!! IS THIS CORRECT? Please describe this cycle.

-Papa!-
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I just think this guy wants to be 7 again.:icon_lol:
 
In fact i did
Week 1-4 : SD (20 mg)
Week 3-7 : Epi (30 mg),
Week 8-10 : SD (20 mg) + Epi (20 mg)
Week 11-14 : Epi (30 mg).
Week 15-17 : SD (30 mg)
I din't expected to do a so long cycle, but each time i stoped SD i lost what i gained, even with Epi after (maybe i was on too low dose of Epi), so i decided to finish with SD before my PCT.
I'm on last week, no sides until now unless a few back pumps.
I try to eat as clean as i can, no alcohol, no fat food. and i'm using Perfect cycle from Genetic Edge to protect my liver.

I'm planing M1T not before next year (jan 2009), it's just that i like to take the more info i can before to start.
JB
 
By the way, i'm not the only one who do this kind of cycle.
And If i use Epi again in the future, I'll not go under 50-60 mg as 30 mg didn't do anything for me (maybe keep the stengh I gained from SD but nothing more).
JB
 
BigFroggie said:
By the way, i'm not the only one who do this kind of cycle.
And If i use Epi again in the future, I'll not go under 50-60 mg as 30 mg didn't do anything for me (maybe keep the stengh I gained from SD but nothing more).
JB
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Just because people have done it doesnt make it right imo. Idk that much about steroids but that seems like a long ass cycle, hope you had a good pct. Good luck!
 
BigFroggie said:
By the way, i'm not the only one who do this kind of cycle.
And If i use Epi again in the future, I'll not go under 50-60 mg as 30 mg didn't do anything for me (maybe keep the stengh I gained from SD but nothing more).
JB
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check your liver enzyme values, you`ll have a big surprise...
every time I do a 3 week with a methyl my liver enzymes go trough the roof, I have no sides though .
liver damage come in a silent way, you only notice when your are really f**** up, methyl's are no joke and I have to say that you need to do a lot of research before taking them again
 
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