11-oxo or 3-ad

just93

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will i see shutdown from either of these, what one has less androgenic sides:think:
sup renegaderows....if you see this thread lol
 
Just to let you know:
1. This is not the steroid section.
2. 3-ad and 11-oxo are no longer similar in the least in regards to being cortisol control products. 11-oxo is a cortisol controller and a ph, 3-ad is another ph, but has nothing to do with cortisol.
 
thnx..., but thats not my question what one has the most androgenic sides??
P.S., i will try the steroid section
 
will i see shutdown from either of these, what one has less androgenic sides:think:
sup renegaderows....if you see this thread lol
..............do research and ill be nice and reply

oxo11 is a antiestrogen and 3-ad is a prohormone or steroid
no u wont see shutdown on oxo11 and yes on 3-ad
oxo11 has less androgenic sides, does no one do research ne more?
 
3-ad

11-oxo is a cortisol suppressor......so if your wanting to lean up you could stack it with an estrogen suppressor and make some nice changes. 3-ad is gonna be more adrogenic.....you could get on 11-0x0 for short period right after you run the 3-adInvalid Link Removed Patrick Arnol just published an article about it. The importance of suppressing cortisol coming off a cycle.
 
11-oxo in large doses will cause shutdown. Despite it's primary use as cortisol control it is mildly anabolic.
 
..............do research and ill be nice and reply

oxo11 is a antiestrogen and 3-ad is a prohormone or steroid
no u wont see shutdown on oxo11 and yes on 3-ad
oxo11 has less androgenic sides, does no one do research ne more?
is not asking questions on forums considered research?
and 11oxo is marketed as an "cortisol modulator"/PH and IS NOT an anti estrogen.
 
will i see shutdown from either of these, what one has less androgenic sides:think:
sup renegaderows....if you see this thread lol
if you keep your 3AD cycle short and sweet (6 weeks) shut down is supposed to me minimal, nothing that OTC PCT cant jump start.
 
is not asking questions on forums considered research?
and 11oxo is marketed as an "cortisol modulator"/PH and IS NOT an anti estrogen.
thats not really research bc someone can be lyin to promote it, the product can work worse for u or it could of workd better than u so they can never work the same for people, research is research of companys, ingredents the most part.

and oh ya i didnt read it i was thinkin 6oxo i just saw the oxo and assumed its was 6oxo and 11oxo is just androstone.
 
Unless you're really superdosing 3-AD for a long period of time, I'll confirm that shutdown should be minimal if any at all. Safety factor is very high in that regard. And you should also not see any sort of estro-related effects, either.

As for 11oxo...no idea.
 
Unless you're really superdosing 3-AD for a long period of time, I'll confirm that shutdown should be minimal if any at all. Safety factor is very high in that regard. And you should also not see any sort of estro-related effects, either.

As for 11oxo...no idea.

Yeah, minimal shutdown. Most users report that they dont feel the normal shutdown feelings.
 
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