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3AD/Havoc cycle

BadBoy

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Hi guys.
I gonna start 3AD for 45 days(3 boxes) a 6 pills/day, Im a 200lbs guy, and week 5 start Havoc 30/30/40/50. What do you think guys? Too much? I cycled PHs before, pct in hand serm and 6 oxo extreme too.
thanks for any comments and sugestions.

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I talked to Matt Cahill, formulator of 3-ad, and he said that Havoc doesn't need to be dosed that high. His suggestion to me was 20mg of Havoc.

My plan was to do something similar to you. 6 per day 3-AD, 4 per day MassFX Max, and 2 per day Havoc first thing in the morning.
 
I don't see anything wrong with that Havoc dose, he's running a bridge so only the first 2 weeks dosed 30/30 will overlap with 3AD
 
UnrealMachine said:
I don't see anything wrong with that Havoc dose, he's running a bridge so only the first 2 weeks dosed 30/30 will overlap with 3AD
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i didn't say anything was wrong with it......i was just suggesting what the FORMULATOR of the compound had suggested to me.
 
macedaddy said:
i didn't say anything was wrong with it......i was just suggesting what the FORMULATOR of the compound had suggested to me.
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It's cool that you got his input and all but why bridge to 20mg of Havoc? I doubt most users will get the results they want with that dose.

If i had to run Havoc/Epi again I would START at 50mg... because I just ran 30/30/40/40 and had negligible sides and negligible gains.

Everyone is different, but 2 things are true
1) on a bridge the 2nd compound should be much stronger or dosed high because the body has already become desensitized to androgens
2) 20mg Havoc is universally acknowledged as a low dose
 
macedaddy said:
not a bridge.......run them BOTH the whole time.
Sorry.
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Alright that makes a lot more sense to me :thumbsup:
A nice recomp stack.
 
3AD + Havoc its a good stack :thumbsup:

Probably the only side will be hairloss (havoc its harsh for hair, and 3AD PH (Androsterone (3a-hydroxy-5a-androstan-17-one)) its DHT related), so if you are prone to MPB, say "goodbye" to your hair.

But if you aren't concerned about hairloss, 3AD+Havoc its a good stack
 
Well, I will start my 3AD/Havoc cycle next week. After this cycle I look, if no better shape, I will gonna have a new e nice nickname...
Bad Boy... to... BALDBoy... thanks to havoc/3ad cycle, lol.

Thank you guys for the replys.

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im starting the same cycle. 4 caps 3 ad, 30 mg of havoc. I will also be taking cycle support, yohimbine hcl. Oh and 11 oxo. Any thoughts?
 
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