I love to cycle! ...last half of cycle mini log.

pistonpump said:
Im thinking of getting some niacin and starting that. Think ill make a trip to vitamin shoppe today and check it out......niacin, liver detox, fishoils, anything else i should look into?
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Piston, get the regular "flush" type of Niacin, as I hear the flush-free type is harder on the liver as it is time-released to stop the instant red flush you get from the regular type. I got the flush-free without knowing this. Next time I'll get regular Niacin. And 1,000 mg. per day will suffice. Get you some Zinc (100 mg. ED), DHEA (also 100 mg. ED), Resveratrol (Really need 1 or 2 grams ED), and maybe some ZMA and Creatine also. These will only help your PCT run smoother. THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
 
Thank you TG and BG :lol: that was just what i was looking for. I havent even noticed but im 15 days into PCT and i feel like i just got off.....not a big drop off and pretty smooth imo. Now i think i got natty test and LH working up nicely i want to focus on overall cleansing and cardiovascular health etc.

ALCAR
Niacin (flush type)
I have zinc in my multi...
already taking creatine....
not sure i want to spend the money on reservatrol as its tough finding a bioavailable extract for it to be cost effiecient...
Fish oils
Liver Aid of some sort

anything else come to mind?

Im also going to make that customcapsule.com slumber cap ive been meaning to make:
zinc 15MG
damiana leaves 500MG
GABA 2G
valerian root 500MG
rhodiola rosea root 100MG
lemon balm extract 200MG
L-tryptophan 100MG
phoshatidyl-serine 100MG
magnesium 400MG

per austrailianmade's suggestion im leaving out the melatonin and ill just by that on the side. What you guys think, does it look sound?
 
pistonpump said:
Thank you TG and BG :lol: that was just what i was looking for. I havent even noticed but im 15 days into PCT and i feel like i just got off.....not a big drop off and pretty smooth imo. Now i think i got natty test and LH working up nicely i want to focus on overall cleansing and cardiovascular health etc.

ALCAR
Niacin (flush type)
I have zinc in my multi...
already taking creatine....
not sure i want to spend the money on reservatrol as its tough finding a bioavailable extract for it to be cost effiecient...
Fish oils
Liver Aid of some sort

anything else come to mind?

Im also going to make that customcapsule.com slumber cap ive been meaning to make:
zinc 15MG
damiana leaves 500MG
GABA 2G
valerian root 500MG
rhodiola rosea root 100MG
lemon balm extract 200MG
L-tryptophan 100MG
phoshatidyl-serine 100MG
magnesium 400MG

per austrailianmade's suggestion im leaving out the melatonin and ill just by that on the side. What you guys think, does it look sound?
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holy sh!t bro! you will get knocked da fvck out with that combo! :lol: i didn't know they had damiana leaves!?? i will DEF have to make a lil suttin suttin of my own :thumbsup:
 
pistonpump said:
noticed a big drop in strength today during chest day and im just looking flat. Starting to feel the PCT blues...
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i hear ya brother they suck. fvck it jump back on :twisted: i kid i kid! lol are you takin any pre workout orals for a little boost?
 
pistonpump said:
noticed a big drop in strength today during chest day and im just looking flat. Starting to feel the PCT blues...
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increase the carbs and cals bro! just don't eat many carbs after like 6pm and you won't gain any fat. remember to use 2g of the ALCAR in your pre-bed shake or take it with your pre-bed meal. it'll help in the fat department as well. FVCK the PCT blues! just keep pushin weight, eating according to how you trained, and rest! it'll get better man, you know as well as i that the damn strength decrease right after the cycle stops is a b!tch. fvcks wit yo head n shyt. power through it and keep tearing it up man!! :bruce2:
 
pistonpump said:
noticed a big drop in strength today during chest day and im just looking flat. Starting to feel the PCT blues...
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Fukk dat sh!t Braddah!! Your strength WILL climb back up and you'll be feeling great in no time! Have you changed up your training routine lately? If not, maybe it's time to back off some intensity type techniques and concentrate on low-volume strength training (3 sets of 6 to 8 reps per exercise) for a while to increase your strength again. As for the looking flat, increase the GOOD carbs slowly each day until you see yourself filling out. Adjust the extra calories accordingly to avoid any fat gain. You'll be looking big and lean in a few short weeks. Keep it real dawg!!:afro: THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
 
Oh SNAP!!:whip: Piston, did Aussie just call you a cat? No.... wait a minute.....whoa, now I get it!! LOL You know we just be phukkin' wid ya , don't ya Brah? :toofunny: THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
 
Sorry i never got back at you guys these past days... ive dropped the clen and now just started the leviathan. Im weighin in at 214lbs but im getting comps from alot of guys at the gym on my detail and crazy vasularity. Im gonna go in a bit early today and get a caliper bf% test. They say you have to go without a pump for accurate testing.
3 optimen
3g vit c
6 dthc
400mg i3c
60mg torem
20mg nolva
1 lxt
2 restore
2 50% cissus
4-6 scoops xtend
2 scoops vasocharge pre
5g cre mono

Igf1 is done and just using pegmgf and ghrp6. Knee is feeling a lil better. I think the strength drop is due to my loss in whatever water i was holding and the loss of androgens but muscle size doesnt seem much effected. Missing the all day pump tho. Performance in the downstairs is good but sensitivity is low and my overall sex drive is just :dump: i have no desire at all! which sucks and i cant wait til i get it back....whenever that may be.....im hoping once i get off the SERMs ill get my sex drive back.
 
Hey Piston, how long are you going to run this PCT? If you mentioned it ealier somewhere, I'm sorry to ask it again. Just curious. Oh, by the way, I just started my new thread today under the steroids sections. I titled it, "Thundergod's Sikk Son Of Odin Strength Cycle". I'd really appreciate your input bro! THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
 
hman85 said:
Any specific reason you are using torm and nolva?
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well i was on the nolva the whole cycle almost and it kept gyno away so im using that as a preventive measure. The torem is strictly for the balls but last PCT i used this same torem and i thought it was weaker than what i expected. Does that sound like a good reason? The nolva i know is legit but the torem im kinda iffy about since its flavored and crap, its not even that strong tasting so idk if its underdosed or what so the nolva is extra protection.


TG i will check that out in a bit. About to go to war with the iron fortress!!! haha.

Aussie, you pussy
 
i got a 4 point caliper test today, bi, tri, lat, oblique....the guy said im 12.6%. THis is actually the first time ive gotten checked in like 6years believe it or not. I thought for sure i was 10% or less but the guy said it could be water retention or just fluctuations which are normal.
 
pistonpump said:
i got a 4 point caliper test today, bi, tri, lat, oblique....the guy said im 12.6%. THis is actually the first time ive gotten checked in like 6years believe it or not. I thought for sure i was 10% or less but the guy said it could be water retention or just fluctuations which are normal.
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12.6%!?? you fat fvck!! :lol: J/K bro! J/K!! lol. after hearing you say that, i am probably at least 14% or so. i thought IIIII was about 12% i have calipers sitting here by me, but they are still in the package. maybe i'm subconsciously afraid to see the results :sad: quick question big P: if a friend of mine were planning a T cycle, would it really matter if he was currently using MMV2 and wanted to just start the T right afterward? or should he run his AI(formestane) after the MMV2, THEN start the T cycle? thanks in advance man.
 
bassgod272 said:
12.6%!?? you fat fvck!! :lol: J/K bro! J/K!! lol. after hearing you say that, i am probably at least 14% or so. i thought IIIII was about 12% i have calipers sitting here by me, but they are still in the package. maybe i'm subconsciously afraid to see the results :sad: quick question big P: if a friend of mine were planning a T cycle, would it really matter if he was currently using MMV2 and wanted to just start the T right afterward? or should he run his AI(formestane) after the MMV2, THEN start the T cycle? thanks in advance man.
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yeah another guy i know at the gym told me yesterday that he was 19.2% and he doesnt even look fat....so that got me to go check mine out.

If you are talking about long ester test then you could go right into it but i would take some kind of oral while you wait for the test to kick. Stopping the mmv2 without pct and waiting 4 weeks for the test is a bad idea, you want to keep some sort of androgen in there. Best thing to do would be to shoot the long ester as normal but get on test prop immediately following the mmv2.
 
pistonpump said:
yeah another guy i know at the gym told me yesterday that he was 19.2% and he doesnt even look fat....so that got me to go check mine out.

If you are talking about long ester test then you could go right into it but i would take some kind of oral while you wait for the test to kick. Stopping the mmv2 without pct and waiting 4 weeks for the test is a bad idea, you want to keep some sort of androgen in there. Best thing to do would be to shoot the long ester as normal but get on test prop immediately following the mmv2.
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:woohoo: that's exactly what my buddy wanted to hear! he has m1,4add so he'll use that at about 120mg to get a decent conversion to dbol. the m1,4 has activity on its own, but why not have it's activity PLUS a decent dose of dbol(20mg) and yea, i'm talking about T-En 500mg/w. TP isn't an option for him atm, so the m1,4 wil do just fine. he'll be logging it here, so be on the lookout! :dance:
 
I agree with Piston, Bass. MMV2 is VERY mild, so have your friend skip any form of PCT and go right into the Test-E run. I would actually have him start a few weeks before he runs out of MMV2 so he can use those for a pre-workout blast! The M1,4ADD and some low-dose D-Bol sounds like a wonderful kick-start. Your friend is gonna get swole!!:bb3: THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
 
thundergod said:
I agree with Piston, Bass. MMV2 is VERY mild, so have your friend skip any form of PCT and go right into the Test-E run. I would actually have him start a few weeks before he runs out of MMV2 so he can use those for a pre-workout blast! The M1,4ADD and some low-dose D-Bol sounds like a wonderful kick-start. Your friend is gonna get swole!!:bb3: THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
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he will run out of the MMV2 next sunday, so he will start then :) he IIIISSSSS gonna get swole!! he's so fvckin psyched about it!!
 
Need advice from my fellow steroid fondling brethren,

It's been nearly 1 month since I finished up pct for a test/epi cycle, and my left nip all of the sudden has a baby marble growing underneath it, and it's sensitive. What do you guys think? Wait it out a bit longer, see what happens, and treat if necessary; or try and eliminate it as quick as possible?

By the way, I've got the following estro-related things on hand:
ATD
Clomid
Toremifene
 
ozarkaBRAND said:
Need advice from my fellow steroid fondling brethren,

It's been nearly 1 month since I finished up pct for a test/epi cycle, and my left nip all of the sudden has a baby marble growing underneath it, and it's sensitive. What do you guys think? Wait it out a bit longer, see what happens, and treat if necessary; or try and eliminate it as quick as possible?

By the way, I've got the following estro-related things on hand:
ATD
Clomid
Toremifene
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use torem or get letro IMO. i'm not a fan of ATD's effects on androgen receptors.
 
it may be nothing to worry about at the moment ozarka so i would try the low dose atd for long term use, like 25mg for 4 weeks or more and see if it goes away.
 
pistonpump said:
it may be nothing to worry about at the moment ozarka so i would try the low dose atd for long term use, like 25mg for 4 weeks or more and see if it goes away.
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Agreed. Low-dose ATD can do wonders for the beginning stages of what may be gyno. I've heard that to use it in a transdermal right on the area may help some. I don't understand this as the Penetrate/Dermabolics Matrix is supposed to be systemic. But I've heard it does work. So that might be an option. THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
 
thundergod said:
Agreed. Low-dose ATD can do wonders for the beginning stages of what may be gyno. I've heard that to use it in a transdermal right on the area may help some. I don't understand this as the Penetrate/Dermabolics Matrix is supposed to be systemic. But I've heard it does work. So that might be an option. THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
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im not sure what is the more bio-available delivery method, oral or td??? Yeah, i hear you on the systematic absorbtion of the td but i would speculate that even tho compounds go systematic in a td that the initial uptake at the site may have direct action as it gets absorbed at that location, then it goes systematic...just speculation tho.

I love when i get compliments people say ive gotten cut up and some still suspect me on cycle. Its pretty well known among all my group of friends that i use steriods, i dont try to cover it up because i dont even look at it as cheating, its just an edge. As is upping your steak intake or water intake is an edge, i look at steroids the same way just with much greater risk. Id like to say that im done with steroid use but quite frankly there are too many interesting compounds out there that i havent used and would really like to...........Tren being one of them ;). And as much as id like to order up some injectables and get my pin on again i have too much stash in my drawer to have just rot away......just off the spur of the moment im gonna think of a cycle.

Trandermal 1test & 4ad high dose.......weeks 1-5
Phera 45/45/45mg............................weeks 1-3
HCG 250iu eod................................weeks 5-6
TrenAce 50mg ed............................weeks 5-9
M1t 10/15mg..................................weeks 6-7
Cabergoline .5mg e3d.......................weeks 6-9
TestProp 100mg ed..........................weeks 5-9
HCG 250iu eod................................weeks 8-9
Tamoxifen if needed.........................weeks 1-9
Full PCT 10-14
Supports on full throttle the whole way...well i just have fun making cycle plans.
 
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thanks for the help guys. I'll give low-dose atd a try if it gets any worse before tomorrow. I guess the best time to take it would be before bed with my last meal??

Thanks again, and piston, those cycles you got lined up there look hella beastly!
 
pistonpump said:
just off the spur of the moment im gonna think of a cycle.

Trandermal 1test & 4ad high dose.......weeks 1-5
Phera 45/45/45mg............................weeks 1-3
HCG 250iu eod................................weeks 5-6
TrenAce 50mg ed............................weeks 5-9
M1t 10/15mg..................................weeks 6-7
Cabergoline .5mg e3d.......................weeks 6-9
TestProp 100mg ed..........................weeks 5-9
HCG 250iu eod................................weeks 8-9
Tamoxifen if needed.........................weeks 1-9
Full PCT 10-14
Supports on full throttle the whole way...well i just have fun making cycle plans.
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Holly sht!!:clap2:
Good to see you finally came off this last one. I have been following along for a while now but haven't checked it out for ever. Looks like your pct is beyond on point as well!!
Good show man, good show!!!!
 
BlackSheep said:
Holly sht!!:clap2:
Good to see you finally came off this last one. I have been following along for a while now but haven't checked it out for ever. Looks like your pct is beyond on point as well!!
Good show man, good show!!!!
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Haha yeah finally came off that was kinda an ever extending cycle for a minute there. PCT is good man nothing to say but loss of libido which is kind of expected. THat is the reason i was so intrigued about using l-histadine in PCT, next PCT i will run it, id like to see someone try it first tho but i guess ill have to do my own experimentation on it. Ive read reports and data showing that l-histadine increases sensitivity and overall libido...well we shall see next run. This cycle that i just thought up......well its not set in stone but those are the main compounds i intend on using: m1t, pp, s1+, testprop, tren ace....maybe masteron too. Ill look beastly for sure!!! I intend to add some nice mass and overall size with the s1+ phera combo then the tren and testprop will come in solidifying and keeping me gaining then the m1t for another mass boost and the tren and test prop to finish.....i think after the m1t hits im gonna look like a complete freak! No holds barred on this one, its gonna be an all out mass monster. If there is one thing ive learned its that my body deals with bloat well and i dont mind it actually i think im going to welcome it because when you come off and nail PCT you just look even more ripped once you start dropping the water. THere is more potential to make muscle i think by adding alot of water, you can push more weight and dont think all that gets pissed away.....im off to the beach with about 5 females....me being the only male!!!! ALPHA IN THE HIZZY!!!!!! lets get it on!:dance:
 
im curious as what is next piston. This already LOOKED NUTS!!!!

I came by this about 30 minutes ago. You can search for workouts based on your goals. I like the Rod Ferris one.
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..I've never really change to much with my workouts(slight change of exercises and reps), but I'm looking into a hypertrophy workout when I begin my injectables. Any recommendations???...I would modify the above one slightly...but for the most part keep it similar.

not trying to jack you piston, but rather ask you for ur opinion as well as TG's and some other folks who come in here.
 
TheeBC said:
not trying to jack you piston, but rather ask you for ur opinion as well as TG's and some other folks who come in here.
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I'm very honored to hear you say this!! :box: And I know Piston would be as well. I think for the first half of your injectable cycle, you'd do well in training heavy with a rep range of 6 to 8 reps, going to absolute failure of course. Even beyond that, with rest-pause reps, forced reps, negatives, and even super-heavy partial reps. Then for the last half of the cycle, you can switch to higher reps (10 to 15 reps) and add drop sets, super sets, and descending giant sets to up the intensity and soldify the gains from the first half of the cycle. You have a lot of options to choose from though. That's what is so wonderful about bodybuilding. So much possible variety!! THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
 
TheeBC said:
im curious as what is next piston. This already LOOKED NUTS!!!!

I came by this about 30 minutes ago. You can search for workouts based on your goals. I like the Rod Ferris one.
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..I've never really change to much with my workouts(slight change of exercises and reps), but I'm looking into a hypertrophy workout when I begin my injectables. Any recommendations???...I would modify the above one slightly...but for the most part keep it similar.

not trying to jack you piston, but rather ask you for ur opinion as well as TG's and some other folks who come in here.
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that workout plan looks good i think it should be fine for your cycle. if you want to see what might be next look up a couple of posts...
 
pistonpump said:
im not sure what is the more bio-available delivery method, oral or td??? Yeah, i hear you on the systematic absorbtion of the td but i would speculate that even tho compounds go systematic in a td that the initial uptake at the site may have direct action as it gets absorbed at that location, then it goes systematic...just speculation tho.

I love when i get compliments people say ive gotten cut up and some still suspect me on cycle. Its pretty well known among all my group of friends that i use steriods, i dont try to cover it up because i dont even look at it as cheating, its just an edge. As is upping your steak intake or water intake is an edge, i look at steroids the same way just with much greater risk. Id like to say that im done with steroid use but quite frankly there are too many interesting compounds out there that i havent used and would really like to...........Tren being one of them ;). And as much as id like to order up some injectables and get my pin on again i have too much stash in my drawer to have just rot away......just off the spur of the moment im gonna think of a cycle.

Trandermal 1test & 4ad high dose.......weeks 1-5
Phera 45/45/45mg............................weeks 1-3
HCG 250iu eod................................weeks 5-6
TrenAce 50mg ed............................weeks 5-9
M1t 10/15mg..................................weeks 6-7
Cabergoline .5mg e3d.......................weeks 6-9
TestProp 100mg ed..........................weeks 5-9
HCG 250iu eod................................weeks 8-9
Tamoxifen if needed.........................weeks 1-9
Full PCT 10-14
Supports on full throttle the whole way...well i just have fun making cycle plans.
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why am i not suprised by this lol:rasp:
 
pistonpump said:
LOL already thinkin about starting next month!!!! :hammer: jk i think i have better discipline than that :lol:
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Sure you do... Once the PCT blues start to come on hard, its not a tough call.
 
THe PCT was successful but ive lost alot of weight. I think i can get it back quick once im totally settled. I havent trained for 3 days now and one of those days my cals were very low.
 
pistonpump said:
THe PCT was successful but ive lost alot of weight. I think i can get it back quick once im totally settled. I havent trained for 3 days now and one of those days my cals were very low.
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Well, if PCT is past tense now, and you're not ready for that insane bulker, what's coming up next? THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
 
sorry TG i havent really been on much to surf posts and check on all my subscriptions.....i usually just check this thread real quick. Ill read up on your cycle thread soon but ill probably have 10pages to catch up on considering how popular your threads have become! Just remember your number 1 bradda from anodda muddah!!!!
 
pistonpump said:
sorry TG i havent really been on much to surf posts and check on all my subscriptions.....i usually just check this thread real quick. Ill read up on your cycle thread soon but ill probably have 10pages to catch up on considering how popular your threads have become! Just remember your number 1 bradda from anodda muddah!!!!
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You humble me, sir.:box:You're the star in my Freakshow Brah!! Any popularity that my threads or I seem to have is simply a response of the kindness that you and all the rest of the people here at AM have shown me!! I feel so honored to have been accepted in like I have! Thank you Piston, and thanks EVERYONE!!!:clap2: :head: THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
 
thundergod said:
You humble me, sir.:box:You're the star in my Freakshow Brah!! Any popularity that my threads or I seem to have is simply a response of the kindness that you and all the rest of the people here at AM have shown me!! I feel so honored to have been accepted in like I have! Thank you Piston, and thanks EVERYONE!!!:clap2: :head: THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
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Wow that Epi is really taming the TG.....
I bet that's sick with Phera :think: no, no I can't think those thoughts......although I do need to do something with the rest of my Epidrol and I do have a full bottle of P-Plex...........nah.:nono:
 
after 4 days off i hit it as hard as i could yesterday. started with chest then shoulders, tris, bis. Its amazing how 4 days off can effect you! Started the hyperdrol and hypertropx today. I need to go make a log for the hypertropx as AMS was so kind to give me some to sample. I had some nice pumps with the vasocharge hypertropx prewo combo. Im still using torem at 60mg ed just gonna keep running it until the bottle is done, almost there probably drop to 30mg for the duration. Still using the i3c which i might save a lil for the future. Weight is down to 212lbs which kind of sucks but oh well still truckin'
 
TheeBC said:
Hey piston, use any MASS shakes while On Cycle? which ones?
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what do you mean mass shakes? im lost on this one man.



quick update been partying way too much this past week and half or so not training as often and ive lost some weight. this goes to show if you dont use it you lose it. Im pretty sure im fully recovered now, sack is hyooooooooooge! lol.
 
It's time for you to toss that hyoooge sack over you're shrinking shoulders and get back in the gym dude!! ha ha I'm looking forward to some more workout reports and an update on the HyperdrolX2/HypertropX combo. Did you ever start a new log for the hypertropx? :think: THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
 
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