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PEG-MGF immediately after injection, weird effects!!!!

all of Dat's anger aside....

i've used GHRP-6 from 2 other sources, and it did precisely the same thing every single time i used it. the time i used the new guy's GHRP-6, i hadnt touched the stuff in months. i didnt nick a vein, either, and even if i had, i know the difference.

Dat....n=1 for you, we have n=2. you might not think anyone but you knows what the f@ck they are talking about, but at least we are giving honest reviews without letting our relationship with the vendor get in the way. can you say the same? your anger seems sudden, and i can only imagine it comes from an defensive position to protect your friend.

i'll take an opinion from knowledgeable, honest, negative dickhead over a biased or incompetent person with a PMA any day of the week.
 
datBtrue said:
Your descriptive words for me are inaccurate, insulting and purposefully derisive.
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those words werent for you, i was just making a point about evaluating sources of information.

When the first word out of your mouth is "bunk" spelled in all caps ...no there is no attempt to be accurate. When you want to run off to other boards to warn people ...warn people about what?
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i never used bunk in caps. i am not being sensational. i offered up a possibility, because i am part of a community that polices and regulates itself. if this thread existed when i was considering a purchase of GHRP-6, i would be REAL sure to tread carefully, and perhaps try a tester order first.

so you are using GHRP-6 and not experiencing anything noticeable??? how in the he11 can you say your stuff is legit, especially when you are using everything but the kitchen sink? THAT's a very cloudy and inaccurate position to be gaging a product from...

as for "sol stirring up trouble" - if trouble is giving my fellow researchers a well-found heads-up about a product that i have personally used and evaluated from a rather thorough and unbiased position, then i ought to be in jail for all the trouble i've caused over the years.
 
SOLARUS said:
i never used bunk in caps. i am not being sensational. i offered up a possibility, because i am part of a community that polices and regulates itself. if this thread existed when i was considering a purchase of GHRP-6, i would be REAL sure to tread carefully, and perhaps try a tester order first.

so you are using GHRP-6 and not experiencing anything noticeable??? how in the he11 can you say your stuff is legit, especially when you are using everything but the kitchen sink? THAT's a very cloudy and inaccurate position to be gaging a product from...

as for "sol stirring up trouble" - if trouble is giving my fellow researchers a well-found heads-up about a product that i have personally used and evaluated from a rather thorough and unbiased position, then i ought to be in jail for all the trouble i've caused over the years.
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:clap2::goodpost:
 
no offense taken bro, i didnt think you were directing anything at me. I should have just stayed out of it with that post but basically i posted that because its good to put out your opinions on a source so that others can make their own conclusions on whether to order from that source. Feedback is good when it comes to online boards etc. This source has me seriously questioning his products, in my case not only the pegmgf had weird effects but ive used igf1lr3 a few times now and his igf1lr3 isnt giving me anything noticable. Personal observations need to be reported imo and thats why i posted that post and thats why i posted this thread in the first place....it was to get some feedback on if this is normal and just to get that observation out there for others to see....i didnt mean to make this a thread about the source, maybe it sounds like im contridicting myself but i hope that made sense.
 
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Wow I was gone for 4 days and come back to this. Hrm...tough to say. I know I am about done with my tyric-6 and I have been doseing .5mL for my entire 6 months and havent felt a real rush like I did from the orginal other than about the 1st week. Its more of just a tingle from time to time. I am getting leaner but not a ton could just be diet and other things. I did notice some crazy recovery during baseball season i can only attribute to tyric-6.

Does that mean its bunk....I dont think so. He seems like he does have a lot on his plate and needs to run his buisness better and has crazy deals but I also imgine there is a good mark up on this stuff like in any other buisness so that doesn't mean much. I know I wont be ordering again b/c of whats going on with A LOT of people I talk to on here and i have gone else where. But I have no hard feelings twords him in any way and hope the best for him.

Sorry guys just my little ol' two cents
 
bro just shot 500 mcgs last night..and the same **** happened to me..felt a flushing feeling over my body and a weird taste in my mouth..

is this a common side effect to PMGF or is it GHRP-6??
 
Its really tough to call this one. I have known this company for a little while; I was introduced to them thru a very good friend. I have never heard any complaints on quality until recently. But I have heard those quality complaints from some personal friends who I trust to be honest.

My only real comment is that I doubt that this is pGH under the guise of being pegMGF because plain and simple, if it was pGH it would take a substantially higher dosage to produce these results then what these researchers are using. Look at a 30 day vial of pGH and look at one of these suspect 2mg vials of pegMGF: there should be a substantial difference in the quantity of lypholized powder in those vials. In my opinion, no way that roughly 250-500mics of pGH would produce such effects. But then again Im no expert.

I think it might be as others have mentioned, the fillers or perhaps a contaminant. Hell this stuff comes from China where there are almost NO production standards.

Be safe in your research guys.

Oh and datB was right, Solarus did attack my character out of nowhere.

bb
 
well i got that deal of buy one get one free and one looked like it had alot less powder than the other so not to sure as to wat to think..
 
babyblu said:
Oh and datB was right, Solarus did attack my character out of nowhere.

bb
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YOU HAVE AN OBVIOUS CONFLICT OF INTEREST THAT YOU DO NOT DIVULGE. your motives are suspect, even if you believe what you are saying.

i think people deserve to know when someone expressing an opinion on the boards has a stake in the product they are supporting. everybody has the right to evaluate the quality and objectivity of a recommendation - i am just giving them more data.

you dont like it? tough. but you cant call my concerns unfounded, at all.

would you trust your stockbroker if he only recommended stocks he personally owns?
 
What is this conflict of interest? Do you think I own that site or something??? I dont. Do you think Im an investor, rep or saleperson for them??? I'm not. Just b/c I know the guy or just b/c I have used their products does not constitute a 'conflict of interest'. So does that mean I am conflicted on Ergopharm b/c I used 11-OXO or Chuck Diesel b/c I used Diesel Test Hardcore or USPLabs b/c I am currently using Anabolic Pump????

IF I WAS SO 'CONFLICTED' WITH THAT COMPANY THEN I WOULD NEVEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEER SAY OH WELL THEIR PRODUCT COULD BE CONTAMINATED OR THEIR PRODUCT HAS SOME KIND OF ****ED UP FILLER. So how would those statements affect this 'stake' you claim I have in this research company, smart guy??

You dont know who the **** I am or what I do.

bb
 
babyblu said:
What is this conflict of interest? Do you think I own that site or something??? I dont. Do you think Im an investor, rep or saleperson for them??? I'm not. Just b/c I know the guy or just b/c I have used their products does not constitute a 'conflict of interest'. So does that mean I am conflicted on Ergopharm b/c I used 11-OXO or Chuck Diesel b/c I used Diesel Test Hardcore or USPLabs b/c I am currently using Anabolic Pump????

IF I WAS SO 'CONFLICTED' WITH THAT COMPANY THEN I WOULD NEVEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEER SAY OH WELL THEIR PRODUCT COULD BE CONTAMINATED OR THEIR PRODUCT HAS SOME KIND OF ****ED UP FILLER. So how would those statements affect this 'stake' you claim I have in this research company, smart guy??
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you have misunderstood.

i never claimed that you have a link to the vendor we've been discussing. i was instead referring to my initial "callout" of your business dealings as they pertained to a conversation months ago - the one that DatBtrue is using to attack me now because he searched through old threads of mine looking for, well, something to attack.

put more simply for you - my comment was directed at your claim that "Solarus did attack my character out of nowhere." which is ridiculous.

if i wanted to attack your character, i'd have said something like "Babyblu is fcuking lying when he pimps GH because he slings the sh1t on the side"...but i would of course never attack anyone's character in such a fashion.
 
1) How have I pimped GH? By discussing gh and every other peptide under the sun in the PEPTIDE forum?

2) Regardless of whether I sell cars, hookers, or cookies, that by no means implies that I lack veracity.

3) You have attacked me out of left field on more than one occassion. You have your own agenda and I could care less what it is but is blatantly obvious you are a hater.

THESE ARE YOUR OWN WORDS BIT$H:

"YOU HAVE AN OBVIOUS CONFLICT OF INTEREST THAT YOU DO NOT DIVULGE. your motives are suspect, even if you believe what you are saying.

i think people deserve to know when someone expressing an opinion on the boards has a stake in the product they are supporting. everybody has the right to evaluate the quality and objectivity of a recommendation - i am just giving them more data.

you dont like it? tough. but you cant call my concerns unfounded, at all.

would you trust your stockbroker if he only recommended stocks he personally owns?"

NOW...considering this is in a thread discussing a specific vendor and their products, there is NO other way to interpret your comments beyond the implication that I am somehow affiliated with that vendor b/c "I'm a stockbroker recommending stock I own". You simply cant back out of your comments now clown. Stick by 'em and show everyone how Im associated with the vendor and their products like you claimed earlier. What cant prove it b/c its not true???? Explain what stake I have in a product I have supported in THIS THREAD.

bb
 
well due to my bad luck with shipping, i will be trying out P-gh starting tonight. I still have 2 mg of p-mgf and im gonna compare the two.
 
isoc said:
I've used pegmgf before at 500-600mcg at once and experienced nothing like that, in fact I have never had an unpleasant side from pmgf. I agree with BB, sounds like pgh. I also have pmgf from this source and will be researching with it in 3 weeks. I hope there is no cross contamination, or mix up. I know pgh is a good product, but I am looking forward to another pmgf run.
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I absolutely agree. pMGF doesn't feel like anything at all. I have used p-GH and pMGF. That MUST be p-gh.
 
It sounds like it has pgh effects upon injection, but pgh doses are much higher. I would hold off with this until it is figured out what is going on. As BB has said, could be a filler, could be some type of cross contamination, no one really knows right now. I would suggest holding off on your research until this gets settled, I know that is what I would do if I were in your position. Better take a monetary loss than to harm yourself. By the way, I am in no way saying this is harmful, nor disparaging the research company, just be careful. I love lifting and research, but there is more to life than that, I have been doing this off and on for about 15 years now, and have made my own share of mistakes caused by impatience, longevity is the key, muscle is developed over time, consistent training, diet and research, dont sacrifice long term results over impatience or a few $$$'s
 
isoc said:
It sounds like it has pgh effects upon injection, but pgh doses are much higher. I would hold off with this until it is figured out what is going on. As BB has said, could be a filler, could be some type of cross contamination, no one really knows right now. I would suggest holding off on your research until this gets settled, I know that is what I would do if I were in your position. Better take a monetary loss than to harm yourself. By the way, I am in no way saying this is harmful, nor disparaging the research company, just be careful. I love lifting and research, but there is more to life than that, I have been doing this off and on for about 15 years now, and have made my own share of mistakes caused by impatience, longevity is the key, muscle is developed over time, consistent training, diet and research, dont sacrifice long term results over impatience or a few $$$'s
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:goodpost: *High-Five*
 
dude but to get in contact with the guy is like getting in contact with the pope..

well i have some serious issues that will be put out here if he doesnt respond to me ASAP..

also if i hold off on the MGF it will eventually get destroyed as it dies quickly..lets see what happens
 
ripped, did you already recon it? If so, I think it does have a matter of a month or two if regfridgerated, if not recon'd, then it should be good for a while. I understand though, I am in much the same position as you
 
Your health is worth a lot more than the $$ you paid for the research products. I would wait until all this mess is cleared up.

bb
 
well i did 30 iu of pgh, and the effects were every similar to the peg-mgf, however it took longer for the effect, the effect was more severe and the effect lasted a lot longer ( pmgf was instant and gone) like 30 mins. This was done subq instead of IM.
 
isoc said:
ripped, did you already recon it? If so, I think it does have a matter of a month or two if regfridgerated, if not recon'd, then it should be good for a while. I understand though, I am in much the same position as you
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yes bro..i already reconed...well only one 2 mg bottle but believe it or not i want to say that i felt great the next day..somewhat pumped but the sides kinda subsided..

dunno what this could possibly be from..im on a very low dose of test and eq right now..but soon to bump it up as im waiting for my goodies..

all in all imm gonna do another shot tonight and see how that goes..
 
babyblu said:
Your health is worth a lot more than the $$ you paid for the research products. I would wait until all this mess is cleared up.

bb
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yes bro but lets say this is PGH..its being said that higher doses are used so it cant be much harm..i mightess well try this out if thats the case
 
Tkenshin said:
well i did 30 iu of pgh, and the effects were every similar to the peg-mgf, however it took longer for the effect, the effect was more severe and the effect lasted a lot longer ( pmgf was instant and gone) like 30 mins. This was done subq instead of IM.
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that could easily be due to the administration method used...IM does hit a bit faster than SC
 
well last night i did 20iu of pgh with 10 mcg of igf-1 rh IM in the shoulder. The effects were immediate this time, metallic taste in the mouth and the flush feeling. Again the effect was more severe and lasted a lot longer.

When i did peg mgf, i did 30iu= about 1/3 mg of peg mgf. I used a solution of 1 mg/ml. For the pgh, I had a 3 month supply in one big bottle and mixed it with 12 ml. I don't know exactly how much mg was in that bottle but it didn't look more than 10-12 mg. And i did not have the same severe flushing and metallic taste as i did with the pgh even though i used a lower dose and probably a lower concentration.

This makes me to believe that maybe the pmgf was contaminated with some pgh powder in the process of sealing it. I do not know the ratio or whether it is true. I will do pmgf again this week to see what i can observe.
 
Tkenshin said:
well last night i did 20iu of pgh with 10 mcg of igf-1 rh IM in the shoulder. The effects were immediate this time, metallic taste in the mouth and the flush feeling. Again the effect was more severe and lasted a lot longer.

When i did peg mgf, i did 30iu= about 1/3 mg of peg mgf. I used a solution of 1 mg/ml. For the pgh, I had a 3 month supply in one big bottle and mixed it with 12 ml. I don't know exactly how much mg was in that bottle but it didn't look more than 10-12 mg. And i did not have the same severe flushing and metallic taste as i did with the pgh even though i used a lower dose and probably a lower concentration.

This makes me to believe that maybe the pmgf was contaminated with some pgh powder in the process of sealing it. I do not know the ratio or whether it is true. I will do pmgf again this week to see what i can observe.
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but your saying you had a lot of PMGF in your bottle..could it be that you reconed it and it just died after a month?? did you notice the flushy feelings in the begining when taking MGF?
 
rippedfreak123 said:
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but your saying you had a lot of PMGF in your bottle..could it be that you reconed it and it just died after a month?? did you notice the flushy feelings in the begining when taking MGF?
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Where did I say i used it within a month? After i recon. it i used it within two weeks at 1 mg per week. yes i did but it was instant and gone soon after.
 
so i started a new vial up and shot 500mcg the other day with only a minor flush, barely noticable. Yesterday i shot 100mcg with 200mcg ghrp6. Today my DOMS is very noticable so i think this is pegmgf just something that is causing the flushing and weird sides after inject (pgh or other contiminate)
 
well today i did around 750 mcg at 1 g/ml solution of peg mgf IM. The effect was a lot greater than the other peg shots at 300 mcg. metallic taste and flush a quite a bit longer(about a minute) however this did not last as long or as severe as .20 ml of pgh. this was a new vial of pegmgf, so either the amount of contamination(if contaminated) varys between each vials, or the curve of the amount used to how long of the effect is not linear.
 
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