I'm just over 2 weeks into my cycle of the Original Mass FX as a standalone and I'm experiencing some pain under my nipples. Is this common?
No pre existing Gyno.Hmmm...Do you have any pre-existing conditions such as pubertal gyno? Any changes in diet lately, or in skin care products? Is the pain associated with a lump or any swelling?
sounds more like a prolactin rather than estrogen problem. some things that can help, l-dopa/b-6/vitex or chasteberry. taking powerful or igf-2 plus b-6 and some vitex should help. if this doesn't help see a doc.My experience I've only seen with one other dude,
Started massfx and HDx2 together and within 2 days my nips were puffy and started to lactate a bit... so I stopped massfx and just ran hdx2 and then realized the cissus in hdx2 causes my gyno to irritate... now I have a lump from the cycle..go figure... I don't know if I had any pre-existing gyno from puberty or not but my nips have never looked the same since before. I've talked to AX guys (great reps, BTW) and talked to them but the gyno shouldn't have happened but it did, and someone telling me its all in my head ain't true when its on the tip of my finger, the lump that is, the puffyness, the leaking... Take from it what you want.
Before MFX did you use any other "hormonal" products? Any PH's or anything?I'm just over 2 weeks into my cycle of the Original Mass FX as a standalone and I'm experiencing some pain under my nipples. Is this common?
If RPM counts than, yes.Before MFX did you use any other "hormonal" products? Any PH's or anything?
i experienced the same thing with my nipples. they are still puffy and i hve been off it now for 5 days. i was told mine is prolactin as well. they were tender to the touch, but now they are still puffy. it goes away sometimes and other times its very noticeable to me and my girlfriend noted it as well.no offense to AX but the stuff is garbage...not worth it at all...I def. know what you mean about the nipple thing and its NOT in your head!!
i think i read in one of you posts that you' re taking igf-2, if so add b-6 and now- vitex or chasteberry. jarrod said that alri restore helps prolactin, you might try that. if this doesn't work see your doc.i experienced the same thing with my nipples. they are still puffy and i hve been off it now for 5 days. i was told mine is prolactin as well. they were tender to the touch, but now they are still puffy. it goes away sometimes and other times its very noticeable to me and my girlfriend noted it as well.
No offense, but care to site any sort of examples or experiences here, pal? It's just that strong statements without any backup behind them usually translates in my head as throwing a ball of grass at my little sister and running away when you see me get up off the porch.no offense to AX but the stuff is garbage...not worth it at all...I def. know what you mean about the nipple thing and its NOT in your head!!
Deprenyl (selegiline) barely helps.sounds more like a prolactin rather than estrogen problem. some things that can help, l-dopa/b-6/vitex or chasteberry. taking powerful or igf-2 plus b-6 and some vitex should help. if this doesn't help see a doc.
Same here, mine have looked the same ever since.i experienced the same thing with my nipples. they are still puffy and i hve been off it now for 5 days. i was told mine is prolactin as well. they were tender to the touch, but now they are still puffy. it goes away sometimes and other times its very noticeable to me and my girlfriend noted it as well.
or you might 'research' cabergoline!Deprenyl (selegiline) barely helps.
Try some B6.What products are there for reducing prolactin if youve had this problem for a while?
Ive had this problem since taking Activate about a year ago. I think some people are more prone to get it than others, and i was prone to get it.
I went to my doctor right after i started to get it, and he said everything was fine. Probably everything is, exept for the fact that it ruins the look of your chest. My doctors an ******* and doesn't respect bodybuilding or cosmetic issues.
Also cabergoline ****s up your heart. don't take it.
At 220 you're right at the edge of needing 6 per day.Maybe the 4 mfx pre-wrkout is what some people need?...lol..I guess that was quite a bit...In my experiences everyone is different so its really hard to get an accurate assumption about anything..maybe garbage was a bit harsh but it just didnt do it for me...Also in my personal experiences with any type of supplement, ph, etc., anything that works is going to have some type of negative effect..maybe i should of been doing 6 pills of each..I'm 5'11 220 and 30yrs. old....BUT was told 4 of each would do it...maybe I got the wrong info...
bro i got it too for ahwile, take P-5-p (B vitamin) that worked for me. People also say take that with Vitrex, and some other stuff and it should clear up!Is this prolactin **** permanent?
Should I go to the Doctor? Can anything be done about it? Other than more supplements and hormones?
I don't know how anyone on here can say that this is all in my head or "doesn't have anything to do with the products. Other than MFX I wasn't taking anything out of the ordinary before or during the cycle.
I feel the pain under my nipples and I can tell they have taken on a new look and feel and it's making me self conscious.
don't forget L-dopa, either powerful or igf-2 will help. alri restore is another one.take between 100-200Mg per day. take it for as long as you feel is appropriate. pretty much till you see it fade away. Also look into vitex, i personally havent used vitex yet but P-5-p helped me out. Supposedly the combination of the 2 is quite effective at reducing prolactin gyno. mine has stayed gone but occassionally will flare up for a day or so if i take something that elevates prolactin levels. so after it fades for you make sure to keep either of the 2 on hand in case they ever happen again
haha, i think several of us have been offering advice. but of course we are not as informed as you. tone it down a bit, you come off as arrogant.Ugh... where is the help in this thread?
Listen Bro, it sounds like the begining stages of gyno. Yes it can be from the supplements you are taking. I would stay on the 6 -oxo if I were you.
Forget what most others are saying I didnt read ever bit of advice but noticed most were way off.
Get some P-5-P Not B6 for prolactin issues.
B6 alone is NOT going to clear up estro/gyno issues. Either and AI or serm at this point should prevent any real Gyno from devolping.
Get your self some nolvadex to take care of the problem along with the p5p. Id still use the 6 oxo in the meantime though
Nolva should take care of the problem. If its already developed into painful or little hard lump/lumps you will want to get letro also and run it first until symptoms are gone, then taper down using nolva when coming off letro.
-Good luck
haha, i think several of us have been offering advice. but of course we are not as informed as you. tone it down a bit, you come off as arrogant.
tone it down big man. he is getting plenty of advice offerings. No one knows if its gyno or if its prolactin related. Also P-5-p is a B-vitamin form. If its prolactin p-5-p and vitrex will do the trick. If not run nolva or clomid along side 100-150mg of p-5-p and you are clear whether or not its gyno. Also pain can be attributed to prolactin levels being high as well. No one knows what he has so everyone is trying to offer the best solutions and adviceUgh... where is the help in this thread?
Listen Bro, it sounds like the begining stages of gyno. Yes it can be from the supplements you are taking. I would stay on the 6 -oxo if I were you.
Forget what most others are saying I didnt read ever bit of advice but noticed most were off.
Get some P-5-P Not B6 for prolactin issues.
B6 alone is NOT going to clear up estro/gyno issues. Either and AI or serm at this point should prevent any real Gyno from devolping.
Get your self some nolvadex to take care of the problem along with the p5p. Id still use the 6 oxo in the meantime though
Nolva should take care of the problem. If its already developed into painful or little hard lump/lumps you will want to get letro also and run it first until symptoms are gone, then taper down using nolva when coming off letro.
-Good luck
Alright, you want my best advice? That's an easy one - seek medical attention. Yup, I said it.tone it down big man. he is getting plenty of advice offerings. No one knows if its gyno or if its prolactin related. Also P-5-p is a B-vitamin form. If its prolactin p-5-p and vitrex will do the trick. If not run nolva or clomid along side 100-150mg of p-5-p and you are clear whether or not its gyno. Also pain can be attributed to prolactin levels being high as well. No one knows what he has so everyone is trying to offer the best solutions and advice
Like prevously stated no reason for anyone to take offense I wasnt aiming at anyone...tone it down big man. he is getting plenty of advice offerings. No one knows if its gyno or if its prolactin related. Also P-5-p is a B-vitamin form. If its prolactin p-5-p and vitrex will do the trick. If not run nolva or clomid along side 100-150mg of p-5-p and you are clear whether or not its gyno. Also pain can be attributed to prolactin levels being high as well. No one knows what he has so everyone is trying to offer the best solutions and advice
Am I in a time warp here? If being arrogant is correcting mis-information that could be potentially harmful to someone on this or any board, then I guess Im arrogant :woohoo:I do agree that arrogance has no place in the help arena. We all appreciate input of all sorts, and as long as it is constructive, we appreciate it.
Listen Bro, no need to freak out your most likley not going to need surgery. Ive been in the supplement business many years and been through exactly the same thing.See I want to go to a doctor but nobody knows **** about what's going on as far a supplements and side effects.
A friend of mine was taking Methyl 1-D and went to the doctor for nipple discomfort.
The doctor told him to take Milk Thistle and stop using it.
I'm getting different answers from you guys, and I'll probably get an entirely different answer or perhaps no answer at all if I go to the doctor.
Not to mention I don't have insurance.
All I have to say is it would have been nice to hear these stories and similar issues before I started taking the product.
Now all of a sudden when I have issues it's like now everyone wants to share their experiences. It's like Closet Homosexuals who only want to come out of the closet when someone else is encouraging them.
I don't have money for surgery, medical assistance or Prescription Drugs not to mention I have no idea how to get them because I have never used anything hormonal before Mass FX so all of this stuff is still pretty foreign to me.
Just curious, care to explain or identify yourself?Ive been in the supplement business many years and been through exactly the same thing.
Im in no way affiliated with these boards, just here to offer some of my experience if it could help someone. For the first reason I wont get into details about my association with the supplement industry.Just curious, care to explain or identify yourself?
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