Factors for healthy male libido

LeanGuy

LeanGuy

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I was wondering if we could build a short list of hormonal factors required for healthy male libido:

Bio/Free Testosterone: mid-upper
DihydroTestosterone: mid-upper
Estradiol: low-mid
Prolactin: low
Progesterone: low
Thyroid/Free T3: mid-upper
Dopamine: mid-upper
Serotonin: mid

What else?
 
LeanGuy said:
I was wondering if we could build a short list of hormonal factors required for healthy male libido:

Bio/Free Testosterone: mid-upper
DihydroTestosterone: mid-upper
Estradiol: low-mid
Prolactin: low
Progesterone: low
Thyroid/Free T3: mid-upper
Dopamine: mid-upper
Serotonin: mid

What else?
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I'm not sure that low progesterone should be in that list. What have you read to convince you of that?
 
Not sure you can generate guidelines set in stone for this. We're all differnet and it's not one size fit all type of thing.. I, for instance have no issues with libido (could be higher) or erections and my total and free T are in the low normal range; so are the rest of my hormones. I've known cases about guys who are in the upper range and can't get it up and don't want to think about sex....

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colkurtz_spf said:
I'm not sure that low progesterone should be in that list. What have you read to convince you of that?
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I'm only 20 years old, but even at age 19 and having a progesterone level 3 times the max of the reference range I was having horrible problems. The rest of my hormone profile seemed pretty normal though..


On a different kind of note, I think a healthy cardiovascular system is also pretty important.
 
Matt Skiba said:
I'm only 20 years old, but even at age 19 and having a progesterone level 3 times the max of the reference range I was having horrible problems. The rest of my hormone profile seemed pretty normal though..


On a different kind of note, I think a healthy cardiovascular system is also pretty important.
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Hormonal balance is the key. Having progesterone 3 times the normal range is quite an imbalance. I've never had high progesterone. Six months ago I added it to my to my daily regimen. My last test showed progesterone on the high side. Others claim it enhances libido. I can't say that I notice any difference at all. My doctor prescribed it for other reasons.
 
BigAk said:
Not sure you can generate guidelines set in stone for this. We're all differnet and it's not one size fit all type of thing.. I, for instance have no issues with libido (could be higher) or erections and my total and free T are in the low normal range; so are the rest of my hormones. I've known cases about guys who are in the upper range and can't get it up and don't want to think about sex....

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I'm in your camp. Before therapy my levels were low, but libido and erectile function were never an issue. My doctor claims that hormones in the brain account for that.
 
Dont forget normal adrenal function and normal Cortisol levels, not high, not low, aswell as good DHEA-S levels.
 
Yeah, my progesterone is a little over the limit, from using prog cream before I knew any better.

Another question... could any of these oils reduce libido via estrogenic activity?

coconut
flax
hemp
cod fish

It *seems* like libido has been waning since I started taking 1 tbsp each daily. Flax is suspect, I think it has phyto-estrogens
 
Matt Skiba said:
I'm only 20 years old, but even at age 19 and having a progesterone level 3 times the max of the reference range I was having horrible problems. The rest of my hormone profile seemed pretty normal though..


On a different kind of note, I think a healthy cardiovascular system is also pretty important.
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I'm having similiar issues with high progesterone. What did you do to combat it?
 
LeanGuy said:
Yeah, my progesterone is a little over the limit, from using prog cream before I knew any better.

Another question... could any of these oils reduce libido via estrogenic activity?

coconut
flax
hemp
cod fish

It *seems* like libido has been waning since I started taking 1 tbsp each daily. Flax is suspect, I think it has phyto-estrogens
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I'm using progesterone pills. My level is over the limit and my libido is off the hook.
 
colkurtz_spf said:
I'm using progesterone pills. My level is over the limit and my libido is off the hook.
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How much, what kind of progesterone pills are you using.
What is you progesterone level?

My progesterone is going down.

Progesterone, LabCorp
Apr-05 ---------- 1.6
8/26/2005 ---------- 1.9
5/5/2006 ---------- 1.3
10/31/2006 ---------- 1.4
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Progesterone, LC/MS/MS (Quest) ---------- (<1.4) ng/mL
Blood drawn 4/13/2007 ---------- 1.4
Blood drawn 8/30/07 ---------- 0.8
Blood drawn 3/19/08 ---------- 0.1
 
LeanGuy said:
Yeah, my progesterone is a little over the limit, from using prog cream before I knew any better.

Another question... could any of these oils reduce libido via estrogenic activity?

coconut
flax
hemp
cod fish

It *seems* like libido has been waning since I started taking 1 tbsp each daily. Flax is suspect, I think it has phyto-estrogens
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I've actually read more than one account on these forums that taking coconut oil before bed improves libido. But yeah you should probably stop taking the flax.
 
LeanGuy said:
Yeah, my progesterone is a little over the limit, from using prog cream before I knew any better.

Another question... could any of these oils reduce libido via estrogenic activity?

coconut
flax
hemp
cod fish

It *seems* like libido has been waning since I started taking 1 tbsp each daily. Flax is suspect, I think it has phyto-estrogens
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Dont know about the other three, but Coconut oil will actually boost testosterone, and subsequently libido (Of course if everything else is in order.) The saturated fats leads to the cholesterol needed for testosterone production. As amino acids are the building blocks for muscle, this would be the building blocks for testosterone.

Also a GREAT oil to used during PCT.

Adams
 
JanSz said:
How much, what kind of progesterone pills are you using.
What is you progesterone level?

My progesterone is going down.

Progesterone, LabCorp
Apr-05 ---------- 1.6
8/26/2005 ---------- 1.9
5/5/2006 ---------- 1.3
10/31/2006 ---------- 1.4
----------
Progesterone, LC/MS/MS (Quest) ---------- (<1.4) ng/mL
Blood drawn 4/13/2007 ---------- 1.4
Blood drawn 8/30/07 ---------- 0.8
Blood drawn 3/19/08 ---------- 0.1
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I take 25 mg of progesterone nightly. My last draw showed a level of 2.9.
 
colkurtz_spf said:
I take 25 mg of progesterone nightly. My last draw showed a level of 2.9.
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Everywhere I check, progesterone is sold as a cream.

LEF have "Pro Fem Progesterone Cream"

But it would be hard to figure out the dose.

How to get progesterone pills?
 
JanSz said:
How to get progesterone pills?
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I believe its by script only... my wife gets compounded pills. Everywhere I read it's better for men to take pregnenolone. Taken w/ DHEA it should metabolize into correct amount of progesterone.
 
JanSz said:
Everywhere I check, progesterone is sold as a cream.

LEF have "Pro Fem Progesterone Cream"

But it would be hard to figure out the dose.

How to get progesterone pills?
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I get a prescription from my doctor. He told me to take it at bedtime. He said it would make the HCG more effective. It also helps me sleep better.
I'm sure the cream would do the same, but the dose would probably have to be less.

FWIW, I also take 75 mg of DHEA every morning.
 
LeanGuy said:
Yeah, my progesterone is a little over the limit, from using prog cream before I knew any better.

Another question... could any of these oils reduce libido via estrogenic activity?

coconut
flax
hemp
cod fish

It *seems* like libido has been waning since I started taking 1 tbsp each daily. Flax is suspect, I think it has phyto-estrogens
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NOPE flax is only ones why i recommended hemp.
 
colkurtz_spf said:
I get a prescription from my doctor. He told me to take it at bedtime. He said it would make the HCG more effective. It also helps me sleep better.
I'm sure the cream would do the same, but the dose would probably have to be less.

FWIW, I also take 75 mg of DHEA every morning.
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Thank you.
Where do you go with that script, regular or compounded pharmacy?
 
colkurtz_spf said:
My guess is that it's from a compounded pharmacy. Cenegenics slaps their label on it.
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Sorry, previously I could not find pregnenolone tabs.
Now I got plenty of then.

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Pregnenolone 25mg 60 tabs from Source Naturals Price: $4.57
 
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