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My M-drol Cycle

thundergod said:
You don't need to be eatin' burgers and fries anyway! lol It's steak and sweet potatoes for real men! ha ha THE THUNDERGOD
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:toofunny: I once was blind.But now I see!It's been very healthy here lately.Trying to cut some BF and lower the 'ole BP.Courtesy of my Pa!
 
Hi all. I sometimes come across this blog to view dif subjects. Im a long member of muscletalk.co.uk. Anyways I am currently on my fourth M drol cycle, I do two a year. Im 24 198lbs at 5'9. First off I have never came across anyone who had a problem eating on SD. I myself, become a complete lion and cannot help but eat everythign in sight. When im off cycle I cant seem to go past 3500 cals without feeling uncomfortable. When on SD, I easily hit at least 5000, mostly 6000 cals and feel good with hunger still growling. I dont know, thats just me... Anyways good day all:hot:
 
Up six pounds, workout yesterday went awesome. I think its just about at full throttle now. Skin got a little oily but i went out to the pool for a day to make sure i didnt get any acne
 
nattydisaster said:
Up six pounds, workout yesterday went awesome. I think its just about at full throttle now. Skin got a little oily but i went out to the pool for a day to make sure i didnt get any acne
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This is like, what, day 11? And 6 pounds already? Sounds like you're doing everything right natty! Train hard, eat right, drink lots of water, and get at least 7 hours or more of sleep per night. This is the recipe for growth! THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
 
nattydisaster said:
you guys think its a bad idea to start 25mg/day ATD? Just to keep estrogen under control. Im not taking any formestane, it never came through.
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Have you told us what you're running for a PCT behind this. I'm curious. As far as the ATD goes, it's pretty strong stuff in my opinion. I say just start out with 25 mg. EOD (every other day) at first. See how you tolerate it. For some, it lowers estrogen too much and kills their libido. Wouldn't wish that on anyone! Try it 25 mg. EOD and see how it goes. This just might be all you need of it. THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
 
sounds good. I'll go with that. i found it for ~$1.50 per gram, so i'll go with it since it dirt cheap. my PCT is undecided, i have everything needed for PCT. Probably just a SERM and ATD 25mg EOD
 
nattydisaster said:
sounds good. I'll go with that. i found it for ~$1.50 per gram, so i'll go with it since it dirt cheap. my PCT is undecided, i have everything needed for PCT. Probably just a SERM and ATD 25mg EOD
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Are you running Nolva at 20/20/10/ or what? And during your PCT you could use the ATD everyday @ 25 mg. I would just do it EOD while on-cycle however. This keeps everything you're doing at a nice low dose level that matches your low dose M-Drol at 10/10/10/. It all sounds good natty! :thumbsup: :hammer: THE THUNDERGOD
 
Hey Natty, give us an update bro! Please. And I have a question for you. How are you taking your ATD powder anyway? Did you make a transdermal, make an olive oil suspension, or cap it? I'm thinking of just making mine into an olive oil suspension. 2 grams into 100 milliliters of olive oil will yeild 20 mg. per 1 ml. Perfect dose too! And this will give you 100 doses. Just think how far your 20 gram container of ATD is going to go now. 1,000 doses @20 mg. each! WOW! :woohoo: I was just curious as to how you are taking yours? And do let us know how this cycle is going! THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
 
thundergod said:
Hey Natty, give us an update bro! Please. And I have a question for you. How are you taking your ATD powder anyway? Did you make a transdermal, make an olive oil suspension, or cap it? I'm thinking of just making mine into an olive oil suspension. 2 grams into 100 milliliters of olive oil will yeild 20 mg. per 1 ml. Perfect dose too! And this will give you 100 doses. Just think how far your 20 gram container of ATD is going to go now. 1,000 doses @20 mg. each! WOW! :woohoo: I was just curious as to how you are taking yours? And do let us know how this cycle is going! THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
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Well this week I will give my final weight for the cycle, and also my final lift increases. As of today I have gained 9 pounds since starting. I dont look bloated either, but pretty vascular. Skin is a little oily. I am taking ym ATD orally, suspended in oil. Looks like we are doing the same thing with the ATD haha. I am concerened if i should take this during PCT. I read a study over the weekend stating that AI's are fine on the liver on cycle when extrogen is high, but when they are combined with a SERM during PCT, they are not needed near as much, and actually cause liver damage. So i will either drop the ATD post cycle, and just use a SERM, or use ATD at 20-25mg EOD during PCT. I am also thinking about taking some HCG during PCT. I am not havig any trouble down there, but I dont think it could hurt. i was going to go with a three week protocal, ~1000iu every 4th day. Then continue PCT.

My PCT will be as follows.

SERM
Nettle Root
Tribulus
Mild ATD
Hcg?
 
I have seen a few who routinely use a serm only.I'm going to try this one day.I klnow I'm not prone to gyno cause if I was I would surely have it due to being uninformed before I joned this site. :)
 
nattydisaster said:
Well this week I will give my final weight for the cycle, and also my final lift increases. As of today I have gained 9 pounds since starting. I dont look bloated either, but pretty vascular. Skin is a little oily. I am taking ym ATD orally, suspended in oil. Looks like we are doing the same thing with the ATD haha. I am concerened if i should take this during PCT. I read a study over the weekend stating that AI's are fine on the liver on cycle when extrogen is high, but when they are combined with a SERM during PCT, they are not needed near as much, and actually cause liver damage. So i will either drop the ATD post cycle, and just use a SERM, or use ATD at 20-25mg EOD during PCT. I am also thinking about taking some HCG during PCT. I am not havig any trouble down there, but I dont think it could hurt. i was going to go with a three week protocal, ~1000iu every 4th day. Then continue PCT.

My PCT will be as follows.

SERM
Nettle Root
Tribulus
Mild ATD
Hcg?
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Well done on the weight increases natty. Yours and with the iron! ha ha I would advise taking ATD @25 mg. EOD during the cycle. Then the first week of PCT you could start dosing it @25 mg. ED while your SERM dose is high. Then during week 2 you would increase your ATD to 50 mg. ED and lower your SERM dose a little. Then on week 3 you can taper off your ATD @25 mg. EOD again and lower your SERM to its very lowest dosage. This will prevent an estrogen rebound. I think this will work very well for you. It's what I'm doing after my cycle this time. And I wouldn't run the Hcg if I were you. You won't need it after such a low dose cycle like yours. Great work on your cycle here bro! THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
 
No doubt!The only time I hear of someone running HCG is a pro who stays on basically yr round.I know theirs more that run it.So far thats all I ever hear about it though.
 
STARTED MY M-DROL cycle today I was wondering if I should go 20/20/20/20 or should I stay at 10's? also taking PC im 5'10 210 18% b/f what other supps should I take I was thinkin of takin some CEE pre workout. And Im taking recreate for my burner. is there anything else I should take?
 
clemdawg said:
STARTED MY M-DROL cycle today I was wondering if I should go 20/20/20/20 or should I stay at 10's? also taking PC im 5'10 210 18% b/f what other supps should I take I was thinkin of takin some CEE pre workout. And Im taking recreate for my burner. is there anything else I should take?
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I guess thats a mis type?What's PC?
 
Well you only need to do three weeks.Any more will be next to worthless.Stay at 10 and go to 20 only if needed.You don't need anything to stack with SD,just make sure and use the creatine during pct as well if you're using it during the cycle.
 
clemdawg said:
STARTED MY M-DROL cycle today I was wondering if I should go 20/20/20/20 or should I stay at 10's? also taking PC im 5'10 210 18% b/f what other supps should I take I was thinkin of takin some CEE pre workout. And Im taking recreate for my burner. is there anything else I should take?
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Before any of us can accurately advise you on your dosages, we're gonna need some info first. How old are you, what's your size, your diet, lifting experience, past PH/PS experience, training routine,...etc. THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
 
IM 25 workout 6 days a week cardio about 4 or 5 days a week eat clean with one cheat day usually sunday along with my rest day. havent used any PH since i took androl in high school my workouts consists of one body part a day with the exception of back and shoulders which I do together. cardio is a sessions of long distance and a couple of days in which I just run sprints.
 
clemdawg said:
IM 25 workout 6 days a week cardio about 4 or 5 days a week eat clean with one cheat day usually sunday along with my rest day. havent used any PH since i took androl in high school my workouts consists of one body part a day with the exception of back and shoulders which I do together. cardio is a sessions of long distance and a couple of days in which I just run sprints.
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If this is your first cycle with M-Drol (superdrol) you need to run it 10/20/20 for a 3 weeker. The extra supps you'll need are: 20 grams of healthy EFA's everyday. I take 12 grams of fish oil and 8 grams of flax seed oil. You'll need 2 grams of Vitamin C per day as well as 2 extra grams of Vitamin C pre-workout. This will help with cortisol control. It's also anti-catabolic and will refresh your receptors. The Recreate will be fine as will the Cycle Support. I wouldn't take the CEE during the cycle. Save it for PCT. What's your PCT involve anyway? THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
 
My bench increased by 30lbs. My deadlift increased by 20lbs. I only did deadlifts the 1st and 3rd week. Squat increased by 20lbs as well. Not bad. I gained 11.5 pounds by the time it was all said and done. Not bad either.
 
nattydisaster said:
My bench increased by 30lbs. My deadlift increased by 20lbs. I only did deadlifts the 1st and 3rd week. Squat increased by 20lbs as well. Not bad. I gained 11.5 pounds by the time it was all said and done. Not bad either.
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Not bad?? I think it's outstanding natty. Way to go. This is what happens when people research like you have and follow a well-devised plan. Great success! Keep us updated on your PCT please. THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
 
OK for PCT im going to take some 6oxo extream and some AP as well as the CEE. Im also taking a multi right now. I also have some sern oils Do you thing I should take that since it has CLA and flax seed oil?
 
clemdawg said:
OK for PCT im going to take some 6oxo extream and some AP as well as the CEE. Im also taking a multi right now. I also have some sern oils Do you thing I should take that since it has CLA and flax seed oil?
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You need a serm!You shouldn't have started this cycle man.Get some nolva or clomid.
 
clemdawg said:
why do you say that?
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Well first off a serm and superdrol is mandatory.Not optional.And second not only should you have things planned out from begiing to end,you should also have evrything including pct before you even take your first pill.The research you are doing now should of been done before you started the cycle.You still have time and all and you do belong here so you'll get it figured out.

Support supps are important,but I feel we should stick with the serm as that will keep you from getting boobs.I use nolva and so do most others.20/20/10 or 30/20/10 should be good.Also get some p-5-p and bulk 1 carboxy for prolactin induced gyno.Dose both as directed during pct and get them from NP.You can even taper them down if you want.
 
pantera101 said:
Well first off a serm and superdrol is mandatory.Not optional.And second not only should you have things planned out from begiing to end,you should also have evrything including pct before you even take your first pill.The research you are doing now should of been done before you started the cycle.You still have time and all and you do belong here so you'll get it figured out.

Support supps are important,but I feel we should stick with the serm as that will keep you from getting boobs.I use nolva and so do most others.20/20/10 or 30/20/10 should be good.Also get some p-5-p and bulk 1 carboxy for prolactin induced gyno.Dose both as directed during pct and get them from NP.You can even taper them down if you want.
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:goodpost:Right on Pantera!! Best post I've seen in a while. I'll try to rep ya, but it'll probably tell me to spread the love around to others first. But you are exactly right in your advice here. A SERM is a must. An AI would also be nice to taper up as he tapers the SERM down. Then with the p-5-p and the bulk 1 carboxy, plus some DHEA and fenugreek, he'd be ready for PCT! THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:EDIT: It let me rep you!! Good!!
 
pantera101 said:
Well first off a serm and superdrol is mandatory.Not optional.And second not only should you have things planned out from begiing to end,you should also have evrything including pct before you even take your first pill.The research you are doing now should of been done before you started the cycle.You still have time and all and you do belong here so you'll get it figured out.

Support supps are important,but I feel we should stick with the serm as that will keep you from getting boobs.I use nolva and so do most others.20/20/10 or 30/20/10 should be good.Also get some p-5-p and bulk 1 carboxy for prolactin induced gyno.Dose both as directed during pct and get them from NP.You can even taper them down if you want.
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WHat is "p-5-p and bulk 1 carboxy"?
 
Sharia said:
WHat is "p-5-p and bulk 1 carboxy"?
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P-5-P is what a b or b vitamins convert to.It gives you a much bigger dose with less,and without the negative sides that high dosing b vitamins will give you like permanent nerve damage.Bulk 1 carboxy is one of the actives in powerfull.Both inhibit the production of prolactin and can be bought at NP.I just put the carboxy in my mouth then chased with water.Some cap it though.You will need a 1/4 tsp measuring spoon for the carboxy.
 
pantera101 said:
P-5-P is what a b or b vitamins convert to.It gives you a much nigger dose with less,and without the negative sides that high dosing b vitamins will give you like permanent nerve damage.Bulk 1 carboxy is one of the actives in powerfull.Both inhibit the production of prolactin and can be bought at NP.I just put the carboxy in my mouth then chased with water.Some cap it though.You will need a 1/4 tsp measuring spoon for the carboxy.
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lol. Hmmm. P-5-P, 1 carboxy and Vitex ... good combo to combat and/or prevent progestin related gyno/puffyness?
 
CrownOfHorns said:
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lol. Hmmm. P-5-P, 1 carboxy and Vitex ... good combo to combat and/or prevent progestin related gyno/puffyness?
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And yes I have seen people get rid of puffiness lactating with just P-5-P while on.IDK about vitex though.If people have been succesful with p-5-p alone,then the carboxy thrown in should do just fine.I actually only used the bulk 1 carboxy during my mdrol cycle and pct.I didn't need to throw in the p-5-p.
 
pantera101 said:
Oh god thats funny sh!t.I am laughing very hard right now!!!I'll have to edit that.I love biggers!Honestly!!!
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You love biggers?!! OMFG, you're killin' me!!:toofunny: THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
 
Currently running 3ad for 3 weeks and with bridge into sd
Will be running a 10/10/10 of original sd been debating on using for some time now.
Running torfemine for serm have extras liKe AI PCS, IGF2, MASSFX, ALRI RESTORE, cissus drol. plus fish oils,xtend cycle support.

Hows this look it's been awhile since i've looked into this stuff but had a quick read in the pct forum.


week1 3ad
week2 3ad
week3 3ad + sd
week4 sd
week5 sd


(or might just to 3 weeks seperate of each no overlap)

week6 Tor 120-90 first fewdays(need to play with the dose what do u think) +pcs
week7 Tor 60 +pcs
week8 Tor 30 +pcs
week9 Tor 30 or lower +pcs

week10 massfx +igf2
week11 massfx +igf2
week12 massfx +igf2
week13 massfx +igf2

I have ax retian as well when do u think i should through that in week 8-9? I have 6 bromo in cissusdrol or restore but might just try running the serm by itself if anything id low dose it into week10.

Any suggestions.
 
ams1 said:
why no milk thistle on cycle?
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Do some searching and you'll see where many people feel that Milk Thistle will hinder the effects of your andogens while on-cycle. THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
 
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