oh sh!t yea i forgot you tested the hemo, lol. actually slow-mun pm pantera a bunch of logs and he sent em to me. that's why i bought it. rave reviews man. nah, not making the form myself. i bought it pre-mixed in a transdermal carrier, but it's not e-form. from a different company who doesn't sell it in the carrier anymore. i will be buying more form powder though and a TD carrier and mixing it myself. it's really easy to do and not that expensive. i'd throw the white flood out bro, lmao. i read when you first said you took some pre-wo and it was all hard and sh!t. i was like "wtf dude, guess he's keepin it hardcore" :lol: yea the DTH and R4W should be synergistic since the R4W also increases natty test a lil bit. beware though, it made me appetite disappear post-wo. fvckin sucked bro. no problemo mayne, like i said before bro's help each oher out and are just cool as fvck, lol. we all lift hard and heavy, answer each other's questions, and you're all cool, so i consider you no different than my homies i see here locally. :head: