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THUNDERGOD'S 3-WEEK BLITZ-KRIEG with Methyl-E, M-Drol, And D-Bol

Omega 3 butter :think: WOW!I love hot wings too and would never consider them a cheat meal.Unless they are deep fried and half the time "naked" wings are better anyways!Some deep fried chicken is worse than fatty fast food beef.
 
CrownOfHorns said:
Just for the dose. Reason is because I'm planning on downing a meal on my last break at work w/ the DROL then 2 1/2hrs later take off to the gym and be there within 30 mns, change, warm up get down to business. I wouldn't wanna drive all the way home, get a good meal w/DROL, wait an hr or 2 then drive ALL the way back to the gym... which is kind of far.
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I would eat when I leave for work too.Don't you eat every 2-3 hrs?You got some weight on you so it must be working.Weight lies but it looks like you got some shoulders on you in the pic.Also,being that SD is methylated it doesn't have to be taken with a meal.Thats the whole point of methylation,to give it a high oral bioavailability and to resist break down in the body.I would take it an hr before the gym on a quick water break,and down a blended protien drink on the way with skim milk,oats,and whey thats waiting in the car in a cooler.
 
thundergod said:
I've been told that since M-Drol is high on the anabolic end but very low on the androgenic end, it doesn't affect workout aggression or strength or focus. Strong androgens exert these effects. But no matter what I'm taking on a cycle, I like to dose 1 hour before my workouts. It may just be mental or placebo, but hey, I'll take it! THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
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Yeah im exactly the same, it gives me the focus and drive to crush everything in my way.
I just took my methoxy like you suggested bro, hope it will kick in soon, chest time!!!!
BTW Do you make your own peanut butter tg, I just made some with almonds, peanuts and walnuts, with walnut oil and butter, with a touch of sesame oil. This is my fave mix as i get a good blend of essential oils along with a gorgeous taste.
 
I just buy the smuckers natural pb myslef.Ingredients are peanuts and salt with 1 gram of sugar.Other natural pb's have more sugar is why I choose smuckers.
 
pantera101 said:
I would eat when I leave for work too.Don't you eat every 2-3 hrs?You got some weight on you so it must be working.Weight lies but it looks like you got some shoulders on you in the pic.Also,being that SD is methylated it doesn't have to be taken with a meal.Thats the whole point of methylation,to give it a high oral bioavailability and to resist break down in the body.I would take it an hr before the gym on a quick water break,and down a blended protien drink on the way with skim milk,oats,and whey thats waiting in the car in a cooler.
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SD should be taken with a meal containing a nice dose of healthy fats. or at least take it with fish oil. this will lessen its negative effect on your lipids.
 
russianstar said:
Yeah im exactly the same, it gives me the focus and drive to crush everything in my way.
I just took my methoxy like you suggested bro, hope it will kick in soon, chest time!!!!
BTW Do you make your own peanut butter tg, I just made some with almonds, peanuts and walnuts, with walnut oil and butter, with a touch of sesame oil. This is my fave mix as i get a good blend of essential oils along with a gorgeous taste.
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I eat a couple of tablespoons of peanut butter almost everyday. But I've never even thought about making my own peanut butter. Although your recipe sounds delicious. Especialy with the almonds and walnuts. I might try making some with pecans and cashews (my favorite nuts) and see how it tastes.:food: Thanks for the idea! THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
 
thundergod said:
I eat a couple of tablespoons of peanut butter almost everyday. But I've never even thought about making my own peanut butter. Although your recipe sounds delicious. Especialy with the almonds and walnuts. I might try making some with pecans and cashews (my favorite nuts) and see how it tastes.:food: Thanks for the idea! THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
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Hey thats a good idea about the pecans, i love cashews but they tasted strange in my peanut butter.:food:
 
thundergod said:
Then you need to carry a good protein bar to work with you. And about 30 minutes before you leave, eat it and take your Drol then go to the gym. This will time out so that you have some food and your drol in you 1 hour before your workout. You can make it happen!! Go get 'em dude!!:head: THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
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Protein bar with Drol, ey! Sounds convenient. I could probably wolf down those quick without being seen.

I've been told that since M-Drol is high on the anabolic end but very low on the androgenic end, it doesn't affect workout aggression or strength or focus. Strong androgens exert these effects. But no matter what I'm taking on a cycle, I like to dose 1 hour before my workouts. It may just be mental or placebo, but hey, I'll take it! THE THUNDERGOD
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I've heard around that Drol gives you a great pump if eaten about and hr - 2 hrs pre w/o w/carbs... but I wouldn't know about M drol in particular. A buddy once gave me about 1/4 bottle of LG M1D (those red pilled ones). I took 3 caps(recommended dose) about an hr and a half before hitting the iron and man... I had one of the best pumps ever. Now he's a small dude and it said the M1D didn't do squat for him at the rec. dose, so that's why he gave them to me. Since I'm larger I said what the hell and wasn't expecting anything either. I even asked myself why the hell am I so pumped then I remembered I had taken them... so I'm guessing I could rule out placebo effect to some degree. I tried it again the next week and same thing happened time and time again. So yeah, I just thought since Drol is stronger I could probably get some killer pumps out of it. I still plan to dose it pre-wo though!

I would eat when I leave for work too.Don't you eat every 2-3 hrs?You got some weight on you so it must be working.Weight lies but it looks like you got some shoulders on you in the pic.Also,being that SD is methylated it doesn't have to be taken with a meal.Thats the whole point of methylation,to give it a high oral bioavailability and to resist break down in the body.I would take it an hr before the gym on a quick water break,and down a blended protien drink on the way with skim milk,oats,and whey thats waiting in the car in a cooler.
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Yea I do eat every 2 hrs (some are basic protein shakes) except pre w/o... so I usually have a big serving of extend or purple wrath as soon as I get in the car after work then take off to the gym. I have to be careful with what I eat I put on weight like crazy! But It's mostly fat... I guess that's just the way I am. I was 250 lbs at my worst... used horrible dieting techinques to my all time lightest 185 which weren't so lean haha.... then got serious and was sporting a half assed sixer at 192 ( i looked better than i did 185!) I got a pic of it somewhere

Hmm... a shake with oats? Don't yo uhave to cook those? (I try to steer away from carbs so I'm not so familiar... except with instant whole grain brown rice!)
 
bassgod272 said:
SD should be taken with a meal containing a nice dose of healthy fats. or at least take it with fish oil. this will lessen its negative effect on your lipids.
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? Methyls can be taken with or without food, and taking it with fish oil will not make any difference on lipids.
 
Hey Tripster! Are you getting ready to run something or log something? I miss your logs bro. They're Uber entertaining! :aargh: THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
 
thundergod said:
Hey Tripster! Are you getting ready to run something or log something? I miss your logs bro. They're Uber entertaining! :aargh: THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
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Yo killer, I want to do something different, so i'm still planning things. Nothing for a few weeks probably. Don't want to give any details cause then i'd have to kill hman85 for knowing too much information. ;)
 
BlackSheep said:
TG any sides to report soldier?
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Other than bein' hornier than a 4-balled tomcat, no! lol Libido is to the point of being pornographic!:twisted: My wife will probably buy my next round of D-Bol.:whip: ha ha Nothing bad to report my brudda frum anudda mudda! Even mixing methyls, a 17a-alkylated, and a few other goodies. Of course, I'm not aware how my lipids or liver enzymes are doing. I am curious, but not to the point of paying out of pocket for bloodwork. I'm taking all precautions I can with ancillaries and support supps and all! I'm enjoying this ride extremely thus far!!:head: THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
 
TripDog said:
Yo killer, I want to do something different, so i'm still planning things. Nothing for a few weeks probably. Don't want to give any details cause then i'd have to kill hman85 for knowing too much information. ;)
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Hey man thats sounds like fighting words:numbered: So whats it going to be just go ahead and tell me now, I need the inside scoop:hammer:
 
Crown of horns;
No you don't have to cook the oats.Just put enough milk,or water,to blend them together.And then add the other stuff.I like to do this to get the oats a little more finer.
 
arizonanewbie said:
I grind my oats dry in a coffee grinder and just mix them in my water for my w/o drink. Easy peasy.
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I'm guessing with protien?They actually have oat flour at stores,but it's staright up expensive for as much as you will go through.I don't know if it digest slowly either.Ofcourse it's made from oats,but it's a powder as opposed to flakes.......
 
hman85 said:
Hey man thats sounds like fighting words:numbered: So whats it going to be just go ahead and tell me now, I need the inside scoop:hammer:
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BLITZ-KRIEG DAY 10--Just took my morning dose of 10 mg. each of M-Drol, Methyl-E, and D-Bol. D-Bol is meltin' under my tongue right now! YUMM! I will keep my dosages the same as now for the duration of my cycle. It was, and will continue to be, 20 mg. each of M-Drol, Methyl-E, and D-Bol everyday for the entire 3 weeks. If I feel I need to up anything, it will be on a future cycle. Not this time! I'm testing new waters here! I feel extremely good on this cycle. No lethargy, no back pumps, nothing bad really. BP is still unelevated at 130/86 and I'm taking 2 grams of Hawthorn Berries everyday. I would love to see my lipids levels right now. I'm taking 20 grams of healthy EFA's, 1,000 mg. of Flush-Free Niacin, and 40 mg. of Policosanol everyday to help with my lipids and cholesterol levels. I would also like to know my liver enzymes also. I took 2 grams of Milk Thistle everyday for 3 weeks before this cycle. I do NOT take liver supps during my cycles. But all in all, I feel absolutely great. No bad sides to report. Everything is very positive at this point. Pumps are insane, vascularity starting to really show (Epi), endurance is good, libido is seriously elevated, recovery is quick, and strength is coming on hard now! I'm up 2 very lean pounds as of right now. This is my best cycle to date thus far! :woohoo: THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
 
TG, taurine does wonders for my BP. Try dosing in the 8-10g range per day and see if it has any effect for ya. Usually kicks in within 36-48hours for me. It remedied some MAJOR BP issues for me a few weeks back. If not, you can just scrap it and cost is relatively cheap.

Flush free niacin requires liver enzymatic action. Might want to switch back to the typical standard flush type considering your choice of methylated candies ;) ...that's according to some googling that I did a while back when I wanted to increase my niacin dosage.

Another popular strategy with liver support is to stagger your oral steriod and liver support doses by 4 hours. Supposedly takes about 3-4 hrs to completely make passes through the liver so it should negative the "interference theory." This is popular on the lean bulk board if you wanna check out doc's stickies.
 
celc5 said:
TG, taurine does wonders for my BP. Try dosing in the 8-10g range per day and see if it has any effect for ya. Usually kicks in within 36-48hours for me. It remedied some MAJOR BP issues for me a few weeks back. If not, you can just scrap it and cost is relatively cheap.

Flush free niacin requires liver enzymatic action. Might want to switch back to the typical standard flush type considering your choice of methylated candies ;) ...that's according to some googling that I did a while back when I wanted to increase my niacin dosage.

Another popular strategy with liver support is to stagger your oral steriod and liver support doses by 4 hours. Supposedly takes about 3-4 hrs to completely make passes through the liver so it should negative the "interference theory." This is popular on the lean bulk board if you wanna check out doc's stickies.
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I always greatly appreciate all of your input Celc. I'm already taking 2 grams of Taurine per day now. But I'll up it to see if it helps. That BP reading is not really that bad for me. It's really came down a lot from 10 months ago when I was 30 pounds heavier (fatter)! Thanks for the tip on the standard flush type Niacin. I'll get some, and use my Flush-Free version during PCT. But with the liver support, I'll stick to my guns on that one. None during cycle. I've been reading up on this from Dana Dinoii over at DA forums. I respect his knowledge and opinions. I'll resume 2,0000 mg. of Milk Thistle right after the cycle, during my PCT. I'm going to add some SamE this time as well. But all in all this is turning out to be my best cycle thus far, despite some people's negative opinions of my choices for this stack. At one point, all now popular stacks were just in the imagination of some individual that decided to run it to see if it was successful or not. This is exactly what I'm doing with this cycle. I've got more experiments to follow.:fool2: Everyone.....stay tuned! THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
 
I'm not using it right now,but I was just taking one 500mg tablet a day.Thats what the bottle suggest and I was also taking fish oil and CS which has 2 things for lipids I believe.
 
thundergod said:
How much are you dosing Pantera? THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
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I flush HARD on run of the mill niacin tabs and look silly with a red face at work :fool2: So I break my 500mg tabs into 4's (125mg) and take about about 4-8 throughout the day with meals. I haven't run anything that has a horrible cholesterol reputation (halo and phera so far) so take my experience with a grain of salt as far as dosing goes.

But as pantera said, I think 500mg should typically do the trick... just remember you are in uncharted waters here and we're not sure how the combo will affect lipids.
 
celc5 said:
I flush HARD on run of the mill niacin tabs and look silly with a red face at work :fool2: So I break my 500mg tabs into 4's (125mg) and take about about 4-8 throughout the day with meals. I haven't run anything that has a horrible cholesterol reputation (halo and phera so far) so take my experience with a grain of salt as far as dosing goes.

But as pantera said, I think 500mg should typically do the trick... just remember you are in uncharted waters here and we're not sure how the combo will affect lipids.
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does the nonflush work the same as the regular?


On another note tg what are your goals on this cycle? (gain, strength, or just experimenting)
 
hman85 said:
does the nonflush work the same as the regular?


On another note tg what are your goals on this cycle? (gain, strength, or just experimenting)
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Of course I'm always looking to gain muscle size and strength, but yeah this was an experiment. I was told how foolish this plan was in the beginning of my log. So I'm going to show that there was a method to my madness after all. The Epi. is an anti-estrogen. So it will serve to keep me lean, hard, and bloat-free. It also has SERM like properties so as to keep circulating estrogen levels from binding to the ER. The d-bol is obviously for some added size and strength, but it will cause water retention and bloat, hence the need for the Epi. The M-drol is for strength also and fat-free mass as it is totally non-aromatizing. So I had some reasoning behind this mix of anabolics. It was not just happenstance.:study: "A man without a plan, is NOT a man"!! THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
 
hman85 said:
does the nonflush work the same as the regular?
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it's supposedly slow release, which is what makes it hard on the liver. The purpose of the slow release is just allowing a little at a time into the blood stream, so that prevents the flush from a higher dose all at once.
 
Yo TG awesome bro.
Your doing good, i think you chose a good combo, i think it does have a very good effect on vascularity, and keeping bloat away, ive noticed im looking drier myself.
All the best im here and watching!!!
 
russianstar said:
Yo TG awesome bro.
Your doing good, i think you chose a good combo, i think it does have a very good effect on vascularity, and keeping bloat away, ive noticed im looking drier myself.
All the best im here and watching!!!
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Appreciate it bro! Yeah this is my first experince with the d-bol and the Epi. Epi is very good for leaning up and increasing vascularity. When I'm working out, my veins are freakin' bulging. It's cool as fokk!! You're doing great on your cycle as well. It's every bodybuilder's dream come true to add weight and drop bodyfat at the same time. You're doing awesome dude!:clap2: THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
 
thundergod said:
I was told how foolish this plan was in the beginning of my log. So I'm going to show that there was a method to my madness after all. THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
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Hmmmm.......Fck the Naysayers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I was always told "Fail to Plan and your Planning to Fail". There is no try or try not!! Only DO or DO not!!!:aargh:
 
BlackSheep said:
Hmmmm.......Fck the Naysayers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I was always told "Fail to Plan and your Planning to Fail". There is no try or try not!! Only DO or DO not!!!:aargh:
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Right on, my brudda frum anudda mudda! I may be crazy, but I'm not stupid. Of course this is always open to debate! ha ha I think about what each designer or steroid will do that I'll be taking together. I contemplate the individual actions of each. Then I take into account how they will work in conjunction with one another! I do give it some forethought. I've got some more mad experiments lined up for the future. :fool2: It's mad fun!!:woohoo: THE THUNDERGOD:hammer: P.S. I like that quote from Master Yoda, "Do or do not. There is no try"!!
 
thundergod said:
I always greatly appreciate all of your input Celc. I'm already taking 2 grams of Taurine per day now. But I'll up it to see if it helps. That BP reading is not really that bad for me. It's really came down a lot from 10 months ago when I was 30 pounds heavier (fatter)! Thanks for the tip on the standard flush type Niacin. I'll get some, and use my Flush-Free version during PCT. But with the liver support, I'll stick to my guns on that one. None during cycle. I've been reading up on this from Dana Dinoii over at DA forums. I respect his knowledge and opinions. I'll resume 2,0000 mg. of Milk Thistle right after the cycle, during my PCT. I'm going to add some SamE this time as well. But all in all this is turning out to be my best cycle thus far, despite some people's negative opinions of my choices for this stack. At one point, all now popular stacks were just in the imagination of some individual that decided to run it to see if it was successful or not. This is exactly what I'm doing with this cycle. I've got more experiments to follow.:fool2: Everyone.....stay tuned! THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
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Is that a typo 20,000mg of milk thistle?
 
thundergod said:
Right on, my brudda frum anudda mudda! I may be crazy, but I'm not stupid. Of course this is always open to debate! ha ha I think about what each designer or steroid will do that I'll be taking together. I contemplate the individual actions of each. Then I take into account how they will work in conjunction with one another! I do give it some forethought. I've got some more mad experiments lined up for the future. :fool2: It's mad fun!!:woohoo: THE THUNDERGOD:hammer: P.S. I like that quote from Master Yoda, "Do or do not. There is no try"!!
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TG, I definitely have that quote in my top 5 'real-time' quotes that I use about every couple days.
 
TripDog said:
Is that a typo 20,000mg of milk thistle?
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My bad Tripinski! Of course that's a typo. I take 2 grams, so 2,000 mg. lol THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
 
crader said:
Hows it going in here?!
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It's all crazy up in here! You know that! My training has taken a sadistic turn now. I'm incorporating more drop sets, descending sets, and rest-pause reps at the end of my heaviest work sets now. I've seen the way you're training crader, so I've decided to up my training a notch! I love the insanity......oh, the humanity! :fool2: THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
 
DAY 11---Battle Briefing---CHEST AND TRICEPS---The intensity was thru the roof this morning. I'm breaking out the little 2 and 1/2 pound plates now just so I can report an increase! lol I can't even entertain the thought of not increasing weight or reps while on this loaded cycle! Some numbers from the battlefield. Flat Bench Presses: 285 X 10. Immediate drop to 235 X 8. Incline Bench Presses: 270 X 11. Immediate drop to 225 X 8. Pec-Deck Flyes: 190 X 10. Immediate drop to 150 X 10. Cable-Crossovers: 80 X 15. Immediate drop to 60 X 10. Standing Triceps Pushdowns: 170 X 10. Immediate drop to 130 X 10. One-Arm Seated Overhead Cable Extensions: 70 X 10! Immediate drop to 50 X 9. Reverse-Grip Pushdowns: 120 X 10. Immediate drop to 90 X 9. I felt so strong and confident with the weights this morning. Like I could've lifted anything I put on the Bar! Aggression is extremely elevated.:aargh: It's good that I workout alone.I'm not exactly sociable when I'm in my Beserker rage! :frustrate I take it all out on the weights! I definately had on the "bear shirt" this morning! THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
 
crader said:
LOL Its a nice rush to feel your heart pounding as you superset and drive your body to push harder.
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It makes one feel very much alive! My heart was pounding faster than a diabetic hummingbird's on Reese's pieces! lol THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
 
thundergod said:
It makes one feel very much alive! My heart was pounding faster than a diabetic hummingbird's on Reese's pieces! lol THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
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hey so you workout at your house or do you mean you workout alone with no partner but go to a public gym?

Personally if i had a gym all to myself like one in a basement or something i would enjoy it more, i mean u can do whatever you want, yell as loud as you want, slam weights, throw weights, spit, punch things, whatever you want! I try to be a lil considerate at my local 24hr fitness...:rolleyes:
 
pistonpump said:
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hey so you workout at your house or do you mean you workout alone with no partner but go to a public gym?

Personally if i had a gym all to myself like one in a basement or something i would enjoy it more, i mean u can do whatever you want, yell as loud as you want, slam weights, throw weights, spit, punch things, whatever you want! I try to be a lil considerate at my local 24hr fitness...:rolleyes:
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:woohoo:
 
pistonpump said:
:toofunny:

hey so you workout at your house or do you mean you workout alone with no partner but go to a public gym?

Personally if i had a gym all to myself like one in a basement or something i would enjoy it more, i mean u can do whatever you want, yell as loud as you want, slam weights, throw weights, spit, punch things, whatever you want! I try to be a lil considerate at my local 24hr fitness...:rolleyes:
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I actually have everything I need at home. Machines and free weights. A very cool set-up! But I also go to my local Community Center. There's usually no one there in the mornings when I workout. I have the run of the store! THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
 
THUNDERGOD!!!! DUDE your quote from your MMV2 cycle is posted on the Front Page of this site on the LG add bro!!!! Fckin sweet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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