bassgod272
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I already mentioned this to you bass...!!!
you repped me for it!!!!
I already mentioned this to you bass...!!!
I've already heard several people say the injections will make your phukkin' leg quiver like Elvis on meth or something! Doesn't sound like much fun! I've changed my mind about the quads. No quads for the gods. I'll stay with delts for the diety! ha ha THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:no quads for the gods?
Strength is all relative I think. I just lift what it takes to make me grow. I started this journey when I was 19 years old. That's 25 years ago this June. What an anniversary! So I've been at it a while. I've stopped a few times over the years. I've been back at it for almost 4 years now after a 4 year lay-off due to job responsibilities. I decided this is more important to me. Took a lower paying job and been happy ever since! The iron is my life dude!:aargh: THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:Tg i have to say you throw some damn weight around. ha
THE POWER OF THUNDER GENTS!!!!
BEEN THERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I couldnt walk right for months, and it still really messes with me. Hit ventro glute, NOT glute. One of the dumbest things I ever did, and I payed the price trust. That is a pain that is unbearable.........I was whining like a little bithc cause I couldnt even move my dam leg....not fun, cant do squats anymore because of it also, and running is not an option either...UGH!!!!!!!!!!
Celc, how wonderful to hear from you!
With Form being so hard to find right now (of course I have some stashed) I'm leaning more towards the Trione more lately anyway. I feel good on it. So, I've been adding more trione into my TD Form/Trione combo. I use twice as much trione than the form. I like it. I'm actually doing this to stretch out my bulk Form longer. I haven't tried 6 Bromo yet. And I may not. Seems some report libido issues along the lines of ATD, which I hate. The Trione seems to be great FOR libido to me. I'm not using the Form/Trione on-cycle this time. I'll use it low-dose in PCT. I am taking Epistane, which is a suicidal aromatase inhibitor in actuality. So it should help keep me dry. And the M-Drol is also very dry to me. I can't wait until about 7 to 10 days into this Blitz! Keep watching friend! THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:Thanks for the warm welcome. I post less on the boards but I do browse frequenty.
Just a thought, the formestane doesn't work so well in post cycle for me. I didn't quite get the typical aggression kick or libido enhancement that I normally get with form. It did keep me lean though. Others have had similar opinions on form in post cycle, but I had to try it myself to be sure that they were right
There's some interesting theory floating around because of formestane's proven DHT INHIBITORY affect. The line of thought goes that blocking DHT on cycle with form is an added benefit to prevent prostate hypertrophy (of course as well as AI properties). However, allowing DHT to bind in post cycle is what makes some other AI's a better choice including 6bromo and 6oxo.
I like 6-oxo myself but it is rough on my joints!!
Ya I forgot about that Crader. 6oxo simply wrecked my shoulder, but was otherwise fantastic. Good point :cheers:
Edit: I also forgot about something peculiar with 6oxo. I had horrible shin splints. Running was completely out of the question but they didn't interfere with any lifts.
thats good news on the hx2 cuz i just picked up a bottle.Agreed on budgeting the TD form. I just mixed a batch yesterday and cringed when I realized I only have about 10 grams left
We seem to share the same opinion on AI's. I absolutely love 6oxo but haven't tried it TD yet. It's on my "to do" list.
My experience with hyperdrol x2 is that it is the only non-ph/designer that comes close to formestane. It was just outstanding, even at only 4 caps. There's a lot of hype that goes around but Hx2 is legit. Libido was slightly enhanced, slight strenth/endurance increase. Vascularity and hardness was outstanding! There was also a moderate/noticable leaning effect with Hx2. No negatives, but my buddy had horrible GI upset with it (fow what it's worth). Hope that gives you some insight.
Try some 6-0xO in TD, and you won't go back to the capsules! I've been contemplating a trial run of some HyperdrolX2. I was going to try out Juggernaut Nutrition's T-Drive, but it only has about half of the 6 Bromo that HX2 does. Dr. D seems to think that Form is good for on-cycle and 6 Bromo is good for PCT. So I'll probably give this protocol a try in my next PCT. Not this one though. I stick to a plan once I have it all lined up. I've always heard, "A man without a plan, is not a man"!! Now to go shopping for the very cheapest HX2 I can find. I am a cheap Bastage!! THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:Agreed on budgeting the TD form. I just mixed a batch yesterday and cringed when I realized I only have about 10 grams left
We seem to share the same opinion on AI's. I absolutely love 6oxo but haven't tried it TD yet. It's on my "to do" list.
My experience with hyperdrol x2 is that it is the only non-ph/designer that comes close to formestane. It was just outstanding, even at only 4 caps. There's a lot of hype that goes around but Hx2 is legit. Libido was slightly enhanced, slight strenth/endurance increase. Vascularity and hardness was outstanding! There was also a moderate/noticable leaning effect with Hx2. No negatives, but my buddy had horrible GI upset with it (fow what it's worth). Hope that gives you some insight.
I've heard several people allude to this. I have never experienced any joint pain myself. And I'm an "older person". ha ha It's very likely due to the fact that I take 20 grams of EFA's everyday. The Omega 3's have anti-inflammatory properties. Keeps my joints well lubed!! THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:I like 6-oxo myself but it is rough on my joints!!
Now you've got me riding the fence on this again F.O.G. I've heard more than just yourself criticize 6 Bromo. I may just stick to what I know works. And that is Form and 6-oxo. I've got quite a bit stashed. I don't mind giving a product 1 fair try, but not if it receives a lot of negative feedback. Thanks for your input as always F.O.G. THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:I personally think that 6-Bromo has no good purpose in bodybuilding. It's God-aweful for PCT and as on cycle estrogen modulation, 6-OXO and formestane stomp it in the nuts.
No problem ThunderGod. My opinion doesn't reflect everyone's, but I'm sure you will find bromo to be no where near as good as the others and the only good thing about 'trying' the bromo is to feel for yourself that it's a waste.Now you've got me riding the fence on this again F.O.G. I've heard more than just yourself criticize 6 Bromo. I may just stick to what I know works. And that is Form and 6-oxo. I've got quite a bit stashed. I don't mind giving a product 1 fair try, but not if it receives a lot of negative feedback. Thanks for your input as always F.O.G. THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
Thanks for your input Aussie! I haven't tried out many "new" things that I do like lately. I tend to think inside the box, if you know what I mean. I stick to ways that I know are effective for me. I may give something 1 fair trial, but if fails to impress me, then it doesn't get another. Trione (6-OXO) is always good to me, so I'm definately not tossing it out anytime soon. Form I love, but it's hard to find. When you can find it now, it's very expensive. They jacked it up to over twice what it was just a couple of months ago. I'm hearing more bad feedback on Hyperdrol, so it probably won't get a chance to waste my money. THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:I tried HDX2 in PCT and got nada out of it. Useless. 6oxo on the other hand has been great to me.
Exactly my man! You always seem to recover quickly in your PCT's so what you've been running works great for you. IT makes no sense in changing it around for the sake of trying something new.:fool2:Thanks for your input Aussie! I haven't tried out many "new" things that I do like lately. I tend to think inside the box, if you know what I mean. I stick to ways that I know are effective for me. I may give something 1 fair trial, but if fails to impress me, then it doesn't get another. Trione (6-OXO) is always good to me, so I'm definately not tossing it out anytime soon. Form I love, but it's hard to find. When you can find it now, it's very expensive. They jacked it up to over twice what it was just a couple of months ago. I'm hearing more bad feedback on Hyperdrol, so it probably won't get a chance to waste my money. THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
Thanks Mate!! You're right, as usual. My PCT's are running as smooth as peanut butter! I recommend my PCT to others to try out sometime. I've come to this particular recipe after several hit and miss trials. I would only try something new behind something very mild, like another MMV2 run or Halo-drol or somehting along those lines. Maybe even behind a "natty" test boosting cycle. But it won't be HyperdrolX2!! What do the rest of you guys think of Formadrol behind a mild PH run? And, no, not behind this Blitz-Krieg. It's anything but mild!! :aargh: I was just wondering about all of your opinions on Formadrol. THE THNDERGOD:hammer:Exactly my man! You always seem to recover quickly in your PCT's so what you've been running works great for you. IT makes no sense in changing it around for the sake of trying something new.:fool2:
It's IGH2. But, no, I'm still sitting on that one. I think it would be good in some PCT sometime. That was a deal though!! That 1 bottle of MMV2 will last me quite a while at 6 caps per week on-cycle only!! So, that's 18 caps in one month. And then the next month is a PCT. So it goes a long way. Same with the MethylRage you gave me. I stretch it out by mixing it with the same kind of compounds that will have synergy together. I love to experiment!! :fool2: THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:Never tried Formadrol but it is available quite cheap so may look into it.
Did you end up running the free IGF2 or whatever its called from LG?
Did you ever try the methyl rage on its own pre workout? Can still get it quite cheap here so may get some to pulse pre workout perhaps in a few months. Im still sitting on that M-dien as well.It's IGH2. But, no, I'm still sitting on that one. I think it would be good in some PCT sometime. That was a deal though!! That 1 bottle of MMV2 will last me quite a while at 6 caps per week on-cycle only!! So, that's 18 caps in one month. And then the next month is a PCT. So it goes a long way. Same with the MethylRage you gave me. I stretch it out by mixing it with the same kind of compounds that will have synergy together. I love to experiment!! :fool2: THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
It's IGH2. But, no, I'm still sitting on that one. I think it would be good in some PCT sometime. That was a deal though!! That 1 bottle of MMV2 will last me quite a while at 6 caps per week on-cycle only!! So, that's 18 caps in one month. And then the next month is a PCT. So it goes a long way. Same with the MethylRage you gave me. I stretch it out by mixing it with the same kind of compounds that will have synergy together. I love to experiment!! :fool2: THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
Transdermal Formestane and Trione never bother me bro. I think you would really like TD trione in a PCT Pantera. It's really good at regulating estrogen and boosting testosterone after a suppressive cycle. It doesn't crush estrogen like so many other products do. ATD sucks IMO!! I wouldn't use Letro either. No estrogen=No libido!! And your joints--OUCH!! THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:I used metacort once and those transdermals are a pain in the ass!Then towards the end I got this horrible rash.I rubbed that stuff on there and just about screamed!
Transdermal Formestane and Trione never bother me bro. I think you would really like TD trione in a PCT Pantera. It's really good at regulating estrogen and boosting testosterone after a suppressive cycle. It doesn't crush estrogen like so many other products do. ATD sucks IMO!! I wouldn't use Letro either. No estrogen=No libido!! And your joints--OUCH!! THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
Now you've got me riding the fence on this again F.O.G. I've heard more than just yourself criticize 6 Bromo. I may just stick to what I know works. And that is Form and 6-oxo. I've got quite a bit stashed. I don't mind giving a product 1 fair try, but not if it receives a lot of negative feedback. Thanks for your input as always F.O.G. THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
DAY 3--UPDATE-- I just took my morning doses. I took 10 mg. of M-Drol, 10 mg. of Methyl-E, and 10 mg. of D-Bol. The D-Bol are melting under my tongue right now! YUMM!! Not really! lol I feel absolutely freakin' great today. And you know what? No training of any kind today. That sucks scrotes!! I weight train on Sunday, Wednesday, and Friday. I do cardio on Monday, Thursday, and Saturday. Tuesday is a total rest day. Bah! Time enough for rest, in the grave!! I'm going off to bash some Frost Giants. To Jotunheim I ride!!!:run: THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
I forgot all about cissus drol containing 6 Bromo. I remember you saying you were using cissus drol for an AI, And I thought to myself, what? I thought it was just cissus for your joints. I didn't know it contained Bromo. I know you fell in love with it. If I decide to ever use 6 Bromo, it would be the brand you tried. Hyperdrol still won't get a chance. Thanks Russian!:thumbsup: THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:I used cissus drol wich contains bromo, and its one of the best products ive ever taken, my friend cycles 6 caps a day for 12 weeks and put on 12 lbs, as for use during pct, i will never do without it now for helping me keep my gains, put on 2 lbs during last pct and strength went way up.
Yeah, I used it on its own pre-workout for the last 2 weeks of my Methoxy TRN/TST combo back in February. I like it alot Aussie. I've read many older threads on it, and it seems like about 60 to 70% of the people reported liking it very much. Look up Methstanolone (same thing-MDHT) and see what the Germans thought of it during the 60's. They loved it. They ran it high dose of course. I didn't run it high enough that first time. Next time I use it for pre-workout standalone, I'd use 6 caps probably= 75 mg. It's the only way I'd use it. A pulse method using it only pre-workout on training days! THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:Did you ever try the methyl rage on its own pre workout? Can still get it quite cheap here so may get some to pulse pre workout perhaps in a few months. Im still sitting on that M-dien as well.
Thanks for the tips celc. I haven't ruled out 6 Bromo entirely. I don't make a decision like that without giving a product a fair trial. But I would only try out a new AI after a "natty" test boosting cycle or something. After a hard PS/PH or even this one with a true AAS (d-bol) I must use my Clomid, "natty" SERM (homemade post cycle support type) and TD Form/Trione combo. I'll have to stick to the tried and true this go around. But thanks as always for your input Bro! THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:Good discussion fellas.
Just a few points to add:
-I think the old hyperdrol was about 1/2 dosage of the Hyperdrol X2. I've used low dose 6bromo products like Restore and got nadda from them. So X2 vs. the old version I'd assume would make a noticable difference.
-I haven't seen Cissus Drol anywhere after the initial logs last year... point me in the right direction if I'm missing something.
-The old Formadrol was oral formestane and quite popular. I'm less familiar with the newer Formadrol Extreme but I think the main ingredient is ATD (maybe something about a trione ingredient as well but, again, I'm not as familiar with that particular product).
I had some trans-resveratrol caps around as well so I got some quercetin caps and Bioperine caps to help absorb the res-V. I've also gots a lot of 6-OXO caps. Should make for a nice combo.Thanks for the tips celc. I haven't ruled out 6 Bromo entirely. I don't make a decision like that without giving a product a fair trial. But I would only try out a new AI after a "natty" test boosting cycle or something. After a hard PS/PH or even this one with a true AAS (d-bol) I must use my Clomid, "natty" SERM (homemade post cycle support type) and TD Form/Trione combo. I'll have to stick to the tried and true this go around. But thanks as always for your input Bro! THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
Yeah but it sounds like formestane is hard to find and expensive.You just make them right?I have seen solutions for real cheap where you just dump the powder in.The powder seems to be a whole different story though on the formestane anyways.
Sounds like home made 6-OXO Extreme! You and I like to homebrew our own mixtures, don't we? Very economical. And I can tweak the individual ingredient dosages within it! muahaha!! THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:I had some trans-resveratrol caps around as well so I got some quercetin caps and Bioperine caps to help absorb the res-V. I've also gots a lot of 6-OXO caps. Should make for a nice combo.
No it wouldn't work Bass. Sorry! If it's caps, there's bound to be fillers in there with the Form. You can't use it in a transdermal because of these fillers. Research it , but I'm pretty sure this is correct. THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:nah bro, form is actually cheap. e-form was like $35. oral formestane is expensive cuz you need 250mg daily, as opposed to 100mg daily transdermally. bulk form was only like $7 or so per gram and you'd need 3g to make your own dermal. there is still a product called Arimitest that is available. it's like $60 for 2 bottles, which is how many you'd need to dose properly. i wonder if you could dump out the caps and keep track of the mg amounts and just use the powder to make your own dermal? hmmmm....
I've never used it McNeil. But I've heard lots of people report to have liked it. Search it here and there's bound to be some threads on it. THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:im real interested in thoughts on the new formadrol because im adding that in to my pct after pcs?
I have used if after m1d [nothing harsh] and was great for my sex drive and got stronger
I don't know what others will advise you to do. But I would just go pick it up. They don't even know what it is. They probably missed you or something. It's up to you of course. THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:lol Well, this sucks. Just got a USPS Delivery Notice card to go pick up my Torem... hrmm
I decided against for today. 30 mns till closing time I'll never make it. I'll be sure to be home tomorrow, I'm guessing they should re-deliver.
It's awesome isn't it?! I'm loving this. Tomorrow is only day 4 and my second workout on this cycle and the log is exploded!:numbered: This is going to be one sweet ride all my broskis! Thunder is going to rumble!!! :aargh: THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:I wouldn't worry too much man. Besides it's legal. I mean you are just using it for research purposes aren't you? :hammer:
Damn it TG. I go away from your log for one day and I five four or five pages to read through. Takes me 20 minutes just to catch up every time I view your damn log.
Never. Why?Do you drink grapefruit juice TG?