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HAVOC or E-MAX ?

RC flight

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Hey all. I Emailed nutraplanet asking them when I should expect Havoc to be back in stock and I was told "Unfortunately there is no eta, due to manufacturing delays. We do have E-max and epistane in stock, which are the same things."

Should I wait till HAVOC is in or just go with E-max? Are they actually the same thing? Also, should I worry about my package being stopped at the boarder to Canada?

Thnx
Jakub
 
ETA is about 7-9 days.
 
I think you will find the quality provided by RPN to be supperior...also, if epistane is available (was a few days ago) then I would consider that as well...IBE makes a great product too!
 
Havoc should be back in stock very shortly as already stated. Ultimately, the decision lies in you. Feel free to check out the havoc write-up if you choose to do so. It should help in assisting you set up your cycle. :)
 
thnx for the advice guys, I think ill just wait for Havoc though.
Also, instead of starting up another thread. what do you guys think of a 4wk cycle of Havoc and Inhibit-E flowed by Advanced PCT. Would this be an OK first cycle?

Thanks
Jakub
 
Leave the ATD out bro no need for that sht IMO. I could only imagine the way your joints would feel after you did something like that to yourself lol....
 
RC flight said:
thnx. so what would you recomend during cycle for Estrogen?
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Well if you keep your dosage at 30mgs or under it shouldn't be a problem. I just had to cut an Epi cycle short because of a wicked gyno flare up, so have a SERM on hand! I had to run tamox at 40mgs for the first 2weeks to get it under control just FYI.......:sick:
 
RC flight said:
thnx for the advice guys, I think ill just wait for Havoc though.
Also, instead of starting up another thread. what do you guys think of a 4wk cycle of Havoc and Inhibit-E flowed by Advanced PCT. Would this be an OK first cycle?

Thanks
Jakub
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Check out this write-up i put together to help you put your havoc cycle together:

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Just out of curiousity, why do the directions for Havoc say:

"Directions:

As a dietary supplement, take 2-3 capsules daily as needed or as directed by your physician."


Shouldn't it be a little more specific as to dosages, since this is a powerful product?
 
Marcinator said:
Just out of curiousity, why do the directions for Havoc say:

"Directions:

As a dietary supplement, take 2-3 capsules daily as needed or as directed by your physician."


Shouldn't it be a little more specific as to dosages, since this is a powerful product?
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The havoc write-up i have posted should assist with this issue.
 
Marcinator said:
Just out of curiousity, why do the directions for Havoc say:

"Directions:

As a dietary supplement, take 2-3 capsules daily as needed or as directed by your physician."


Shouldn't it be a little more specific as to dosages, since this is a powerful product?
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They write it up like that so the d@mn man doesnt go, look guys, look what I found lets shut'em down for they go killing people from all der roid rage!!(Bast@rds). It just makes it look/seem more like a "dietary supplement". Am I right Trama?
 
I plan on going up to 30mgs only since it will be my first ever cycle. Im not too worried about sides but I need a SERM or something just to make sure. I need help figuring out what to use as for SERM. Can anyone here help me out here? recommend something? This is the only thing holding me back..

Thanks
Jakub
 
RC flight said:
I plan on going up to 30mgs only since it will be my first ever cycle. Im not too worried about sides but I need a SERM or something just to make sure. I need help figuring out what to use as for SERM. Can anyone here help me out here? recommend something? This is the only thing holding me back..

Thanks
Jakub
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Any prescription SERM would function well if you can fine one (tamox/nolva, clomid, torem, etc..) but if you can't, PCS by AI is probably your next best option with trans-resveratrol as the SERM (please, nobody debate me on the validity of resv's SERM potential).
 
I am a fan of havoc myself, however I found the same results from epidrol. So either way is a winner IMO
 
Red Dog said:
Any prescription SERM would function well if you can fine one (tamox/nolva, clomid, torem, etc..) but if you can't, PCS by AI is probably your next best option with trans-resveratrol as the SERM (please, nobody debate me on the validity of resv's SERM potential).
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Thanks!
So here is what I have in mind.
Havoc (or Epidrol if I choose not to wait any longer (thnx Reaper329), Post Cycle Support by AI, and Advanced PCT.
Is there anything I should add to my PCT like an additional test booster? Also, could I take PCS from the first day of my cycle till the last day of PCT?

Jakub
 
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