How Would You React to This?

[ReaperX]

$50 for ONE shot of grey goose at the Ritz in Paris. The lesson here is..........dont buy vodkas at the Ritz in Paris.

ps. im thinking of moving to Miami.

I don't like Miami. I probably will never be going back there again. Along with Detroit as well. I don't mind where I live, it is peaceful, and people don't have weird accents like in the South (hillbilly), or on the East Coast where everyone is a 'Godfather Guido Gangster'. The only problem is all the women are of extremely low quality.

If I see a 'butterface', it is a very special day for me. Very special indeed.

When I started college, in one of my engineering classes it was all males except this 30lb overweight chick with a mustache. Nice !


To me a .7/10 =11/10. You feel me Dave ?



Even if you do have money, I find it utterly stupid to waste it to prove you are a 'baller'. If someone needs to spend $400.00 bottle of Gray Goose, they have insecurity problems.

 

[Palo Alto Labs]

$50 for ONE shot of grey goose at the Ritz in Paris. The lesson here is..........dont buy vodkas at the Ritz in Paris.

ps. im thinking of moving to Miami.

i wouldnt suggest miami unless espanol is your native tongue

its not a bad place, but just culture shock for white boys like me

there are some great places in south florida that are a short drive from miami that are blessed with women and drinks wont cost you $14 each

 

[crader]

I'm amazed that you guys think women try to provoke jealousy! Have you ever lived with a jealous person...its hell! It ruins a relationship.

As far as the cheating ex, I've been cheated on before and although it It hurts more to hurt yourself and leave than to have someone else do it for you. So while I'm not saying it was your fault she cheated, how long did you stay in a bad relationship before it happened?

It is very hard not to bring the fears into a new relationship but think how you would feel if someone you dated projected their ex's bad morals on you. Its insulting and starts the relationship off on the wrong foot. With the divorce not even final yet, just relax and learn to enjoy again. If someone is going to leave you for someone else you are better off moving on and finding better for you anyway.

 

[toughchick401]

I think your looking, so she had lunch........she told YOU about it, shows she has nothing to hide, really I get the being careful, and not wanting to get hurt, but really...Sounds very innocent to me.............Perhaps you might consider being single a while longer, seems you have some trust issues........(Not being mean, just being honest)...............

 

[Mulletsoldier]

I'm amazed that you guys think women try to provoke jealousy! Have you ever lived with a jealous person...its hell! It ruins a relationship.

As far as the cheating ex, I've been cheated on before and although it It hurts more to hurt yourself and leave than to have someone else do it for you. So while I'm not saying it was your fault she cheated, how long did you stay in a bad relationship before it happened?

It is very hard not to bring the fears into a new relationship but think how you would feel if someone you dated projected their ex's bad morals on you. Its insulting and starts the relationship off on the wrong foot. With the divorce not even final yet, just relax and learn to enjoy again. If someone is going to leave you for someone else you are better off moving on and finding better for you anyway.

We, or at least in my responses, are not implying it's intentional crader; however, with that being said, I've never met a female who didn't in one way or another try a compliance test with me. The value assessments are often unwilling, and in my opinion highly biological.

As xtra said, and I was saying before, a 'breeding female' is going to want the most valuable 'breeding male' in terms of survival and reproduction. If I get scared every time my girl talks to some guy, she'll begin to wonder why. As xtra said, it's about value and investment.

 

[pantera101]

It seems some girls treat a relationship like an interview.Trying to find out all they can with catching you off guard with weird questions to intentional actions.Then they start piecing the puzzle togerther to find out whatever it is they are looking for.

 

[Beau]

how long did you stay in a bad relationship before it happened?

We have three kids (that she has now walked out on). I stayed much longer than I would have otherwise, because I was trying to keep the family in tact. That was my decision. If things turned to crap, I wanted to at least be able to honestly say I did everything I could. And I did. I'm not a martyr, that was my decision.

The new woman and I went out again last night. I said nothing about the other day, because I already said what I thought I needed to say the day it arose. Apparently, something seemed to have endeared her to me; she spent most of the evening telling me of her feelings for me.

Now then, this was nice - but it doesn't mean that I don't have a renewed appreciation for my need to heal from my ex-wife's betrayal and abandonment. I do, and I realize that the road to recovering and being able to fully trust will need to be a very deliberate and intentional journey.

So, rather than be defensive to your input (and I hope it doesn't seem that I have been), I've appreciated everyone's candor. I'm better off for it.

Beau

 

[crader]

I agree I was married to my ex and have three kids. He was never there for the kids, always sleeping or sneaking out to the bar. I stayed for the kids for 8 years..All I did during this time was learn to hate. Looking back I should have left sooner. But live and learn. I try not to allow my past to affect my future and judge each person on what they show me. Not always easy but only fair.

 

[ItsHectic]

shows she has nothing to hide, really I get the being careful, and not wanting to get hurt, but really...Sounds very innocent to me

Doesn't matter how innocent it seems, the principle is your letting her get away with this behavior, next time the salesman could be someone more threatening.

And in my experience they might not think they have anything to hide at the time until realization.... then guilt, hits them.


Personally, I think if I want to ever try pull off the mindset that Mulletsoldier is talking about then I need to take anger management courses.

 

[Mulletsoldier]

Doesn't matter how innocent it seems, the principle is your letting her get away with this behavior, next time the salesman could be someone more threatening.

And in my experience they might not think they have anything to hide at the time until realization.... then guilt, hits them.


Personally, I think if I want to ever try pull off the mindset that Mulletsoldier is talking about then I need to take anger management courses.

I think you just may ask yourself what truly angers you about that situation, hypothetically. Or, better yet, what right do you have to be mad? Women aren't our property, that's part of the mindset.

They are free to do as they wish, as are you; thinking in that manner will make it so insecurity and distrust are not a necessity.

 

[t3stxlr4titud]

TF would go to the dealership and kick the crap out that lance romance. I mena whith a retarded name like that he needs his ass kicked.

-TF

 

[xtraflossy]

I'm amazed that you guys think women try to provoke jealousy! Have you ever lived with a jealous person...its hell! It ruins a relationship.

As far as the cheating ex, I've been cheated on before and although it It hurts more to hurt yourself and leave than to have someone else do it for you. So while I'm not saying it was your fault she cheated, how long did you stay in a bad relationship before it happened?

It is very hard not to bring the fears into a new relationship but think how you would feel if someone you dated projected their ex's bad morals on you. Its insulting and starts the relationship off on the wrong foot. With the divorce not even final yet, just relax and learn to enjoy again. If someone is going to leave you for someone else you are better off moving on and finding better for you anyway.

NO YOUR NOT:think:

..A woman,.. bringing up something another guy did,... Im amazed. NO WAY:lol: :yawn:
..Dont worry, guys do it too.

Sweetheart, you and I have gone back n forth on this before. Its NOT like she sat there and thought to herself "Self,.. I wonder what his reaction would be if I told him some guy took me to lunch".

lol- on a personal note,.. my girl is the sweetest (a "good girl", like yourself from what I have gathered. lol, she did it last night as a matter of fact.
...It was just my reminder that I needed to give her a lil more of my time n attention.

And for the last part, Crader is right- Why ARE you so quick to give another woman your exclusiveness? ...I mean, that has to be earned (and I know, I know, 6 months,.sure). ..but I'd bet she had it before you thought you and her were an "item".
- I'm going to let that speak for itself.

 

[Mulletsoldier]

NO YOUR NOT:think:

..A woman,.. bringing up something another guy did,... Im amazed. NO WAY:lol: :yawn:
..Dont worry, guys do it too.

Sweetheart, you and I have gone back n forth on this before. Its NOT like she sat there and thought to herself "Self,.. I wonder what his reaction would be if I told him some guy took me to lunch".

lol- on a personal note,.. my girl is the sweetest (a "good girl", like yourself from what I have gathered. lol, she did it last night as a matter of fact.
...It was just my reminder that I needed to give her a lil more of my time n attention.

And for the last part, Crader is right- Why ARE you so quick to give another woman your exclusiveness? ...I mean, that has to be earned (and I know, I know, 6 months,.sure). ..but I'd bet she had it before you thought you and her were an "item".
- I'm going to let that speak for itself.

Bingo, a man cut from my own cloth. As I said crader, it's not so much intentional-psychological, but a reflex, more or less.

 

[xtraflossy]

Bingo, a man cut from my own cloth. As I said crader, it's not so much intentional-psychological, but a reflex, more or less.

It's a survival trait carried by women through the years in the most acient parts of the brain.
Its a Sh!t test, lol, it tests the alpha status of the male companion. A stable, secure, man will not feel threatened by another man for 2 reasons.
1) e is not reliant on the female (which is what the female wants, a man that can provide independantly) and
2) He knows there are other women. He doesn't NEED to secure the most basic of ambitions; sex.

THIS, of course, as is all things in nature, in direct conflict from the female perspective... Which would be to own his balls:lol: (in other words, she has to test the security of the relationship,.. of her man. IT's like "nesting". But it's to ensure her basic needs are met or can be met, and the needs of her (or future) offspring.

I watched Dr. Phill Today, as a side note, on the suduction community. It became blaintenly apparent, that a female will DEFEND her power, as any King will defend his crown.
..And there is much power feared lost from men (or women) - hell, denied extensivly- in anything dealing with "The matrix".
..Which is WHY crader felt compelled to disprove/deny a females ability to test status through jelousy.
Sweetie, I AM NOT belittleing you in ANY way, but I guarentee you do many things the same way, weather you know your doing it or not. IT's part of being female. And I would expect certin tests from you (if you and I were together) simply becasue of the fact you have been hurt in the past. ...while its not specific to you being hurt (as it is conditioned within the reptilian brain to test) it more then likely is amplified by that event. ..Although, you can very well be in a very loving, trustfull relationship. ..I just want to emphasize that nothing I have mentioned is a handiecap in any way. <3

Anywyas, my point in the last post was that the OP seemed to be having some deservidness issues (which is the first place I'd look if I was having jelously issues).
Remember, there's a difference in being territorial, and being jealous.

 

[Mulletsoldier]

It's a survival trait carried by women through the years in the most acient parts of the brain.
Its a Sh!t test, lol, it tests the alpha status of the male companion. A stable, secure, man will not feel threatened by another man for 2 reasons.
1) e is not reliant on the female (which is what the female wants, a man that can provide independantly) and
2) He knows there are other women. He doesn't NEED to secure the most basic of ambitions; sex.

THIS, of course, as is all things in nature, in direct conflict from the female perspective... Which would be to own his balls:lol: (in other words, she has to test the security of the relationship,.. of her man. IT's like "nesting". But it's to ensure her basic needs are met or can be met, and the needs of her (or future) offspring.

I s.

Definitely. This is what I was saying on the second page. It essentially boils down to the differing responsibilities of each gender relative to mating.

 

[Dadof2]

Definitely. This is what I was saying on the second page. It essentially boils down to the differing responsibilities of each gender relative to mating.

Not that I disagree with anything that you guys have said thus far, but how does this explain the behavior of women who purposley choose inferior males in an effort to change them or "help" them. You tend to see this behavior often with nurses.

You guys seem to have done some research in this dept. so I am looking forward to your response.

 

[Mulletsoldier]

Not that I disagree with anything that you guys have said thus far, but how does this explain the behavior of women who purposley choose inferior males in an effort to change them or "help" them. You tend to see this behavior often with nurses.

You guys seem to have done some research in this dept. so I am looking forward to your response.

I suppose it depends on what you consider 'inferior'? We all have defective components to our personality, but let's use drug use, or non-committal behavior as an example. Both those actions project independence, which some women may perceive as strength. This selfishness is perceived as dominance, and possibly nesting syndrome ensues.

I don't think women intentionally choose meek or meager males, simply ones whose unfavorable personality traits portray them as dominant. I.e., if you don't care what others feel, you must be dominant (not the case, but for elucidatory purposes).

 

[Dadof2]

I suppose it depends on what you consider 'inferior'? We all have defective components to our personality, but let's use drug use, or non-committal behavior as an example. Both those actions project independence, which some women may perceive as strength. This selfishness is perceived as dominance, and possibly nesting syndrome ensues.

I don't think women intentionally choose meek or meager males, simply ones whose unfavorable personality traits portray them as dominant. I.e., if you don't care what others feel, you must be dominant (not the case, but for elucidatory purposes).

It makes sense.

I don't know what you do for a living, but you could probably give seminars on this stuff and make a killing. :cheers:

 

[xtraflossy]

Not that I disagree with anything that you guys have said thus far, but how does this explain the behavior of women who purposley choose inferior males in an effort to change them or "help" them. You tend to see this behavior often with nurses.

You guys seem to have done some research in this dept. so I am looking forward to your response.

In short, it's the motherly charm kickin in.
You also get a LOT of this in regards to the bad-boy. Secretely (lol) , she thinks she caqn change him.

Remember, nature doesn't allow anything to be wasted.
Lower status, in a females eyes, means he has less selection to sleep with other women. This improves security and relationship "stability" (I quote that, becasue as a man, I know it's possible to love on woman and still want to bang other girls. Wemon have a harder time understanding that, but that may be in the moment, when it comes up- anyways..)

Females have had the need to have males arround for more then one reason.
.. lol, it's the "Orbiter Principal", as I call it.
You know, she has a few male "friends" (as she insists they are), but basicly, they are guys she knows are interested in her, and provide assistance in raising children, physicial labor etc when the "Men" are away hunting and such.

Its good to just remember, that women have 2 sides to their biological needs.
The alpha male, she wants his genes. (this is the guy she's sleeping with, all the while telling you how much of an a**hole he is. In this senerio, YOU, my friend, would be the "orbiter". ..She is not purposely stringing you along, but in doing so, she's hinting of her "soon to be" availability.

Sorry for going off here;
But, reason for choosing "inferior men":
-Security, feels that is their "league"/deservidness issues/ family situation at home drasticly alters a females (and males) choices in relationship.

In choosing; she want's to ride the alpha male for the genes, and have the "nice guy" to raise the children (where the security comes in). But NEITHER of these desires go away in the end.
THIS IS WHY the woman leaves you, or looses attraction, or is seeing that other guy behind you back.

In my case, I grew up as the "nice guy" until about 19. But I carry alpha traits. I have worked on these, but they are still triggers wether I was born with them or molded into them. Hitting the gym is an alpha trait; or the enhanced physical.

I see SO clearly ,the 2 sides in female'ss biological needs in single mother's. I'm with them until they find someone who fills the void to ensure survuval for their offspring. ..
It's just the way it has happened over and over and over.

Moreso in mothers, the needs of the children outweigh the sexual needs of the mother, in the long term.

 

[xtraflossy]

I suppose it depends on what you consider 'inferior'? We all have defective components to our personality, but let's use drug use, or non-committal behavior as an example. Both those actions project independence, which some women may perceive as strength. This selfishness is perceived as dominance, and possibly nesting syndrome ensues.

I don't think women intentionally choose meek or meager males, simply ones whose unfavorable personality traits portray them as dominant. I.e., if you don't care what others feel, you must be dominant (not the case, but for elucidatory purposes).

This answer was MUCH more direct.
My mind struggles to single out one specific point, without demonstrating all the supporting factors.

lol- Kinda like when I ask my mom a simple question (like; "How was your day?") and she goes on and on about about some woman who's out to destroy her becasue someone mixed up an order at work or something

...But thats just my feminem side :rofl:

If I could rep you again, I would!

 

[xtraflossy]

It makes sense.

I don't know what you do for a living, but you could probably give seminars on this stuff and make a killing. :cheers:

lol- I'm in process of doing just that.
..that is, once I can clearly outline things. I'm a little lacking in the organization of thoughts, as I mentioned.

 

[xtraflossy]

I suppose it depends on what you consider 'inferior'? We all have defective components to our personality, but let's use drug use, or non-committal behavior as an example. Both those actions project independence, which some women may perceive as strength. This selfishness is perceived as dominance, and possibly nesting syndrome ensues.

I don't think women intentionally choose meek or meager males, simply ones whose unfavorable personality traits portray them as dominant. I.e., if you don't care what others feel, you must be dominant (not the case, but for elucidatory purposes).

To supplement Mullet's point here, on "alpha traits":

"An individual with a well developed sexually selected character [such as a peacock's flashy tail] is an individual which has survived a test. A female which could discriminate between a male possessing a sexually selected character, from one without it, can discriminate between a male which has passed a test and one which has not been tested. Females which selected males with the most developed characters can be sure that they have selected from among the best genotypes of the male population. "
Amotz Zahavi (1975)

 

[Dadof2]

In short, it's the motherly charm kickin in.
You also get a LOT of this in regards to the bad-boy. Secretely (lol) , she thinks she caqn change him.

Remember, nature doesn't allow anything to be wasted.
Lower status, in a females eyes, means he has less selection to sleep with other women. This improves security and relationship "stability" (I quote that, becasue as a man, I know it's possible to love on woman and still want to bang other girls. Wemon have a harder time understanding that, but that may be in the moment, when it comes up- anyways..)

Females have had the need to have males arround for more then one reason.
.. lol, it's the "Orbiter Principal", as I call it.
You know, she has a few male "friends" (as she insists they are), but basicly, they are guys she knows are interested in her, and provide assistance in raising children, physicial labor etc when the "Men" are away hunting and such.

Its good to just remember, that women have 2 sides to their biological needs.
The alpha male, she wants his genes. (this is the guy she's sleeping with, all the while telling you how much of an a**hole he is. In this senerio, YOU, my friend, would be the "orbiter". ..She is not purposely stringing you along, but in doing so, she's hinting of her "soon to be" availability.

Sorry for going off here;
But, reason for choosing "inferior men":
-Security, feels that is their "league"/deservidness issues/ family situation at home drasticly alters a females (and males) choices in relationship.

In choosing; she want's to ride the alpha male for the genes, and have the "nice guy" to raise the children (where the security comes in). But NEITHER of these desires go away in the end.
THIS IS WHY the woman leaves you, or looses attraction, or is seeing that other guy behind you back.

In my case, I grew up as the "nice guy" until about 19. But I carry alpha traits. I have worked on these, but they are still triggers wether I was born with them or molded into them. Hitting the gym is an alpha trait; or the enhanced physical.

I see SO clearly ,the 2 sides in female'ss biological needs in single mother's. I'm with them until they find someone who fills the void to ensure survuval for their offspring. ..
It's just the way it has happened over and over and over.

Moreso in mothers, the needs of the children outweigh the sexual needs of the mother, in the long term.

I should have expounded upon my use of the term inferior in my post. I definately understand why women string along men that they aren't sexually interested in, what I meant to refer to are women who are attracted to drug addicts, jobless losers, etc.

 

[Mulletsoldier]

This answer was MUCH more direct.
My mind struggles to single out one specific point, without demonstrating all the supporting factors.

lol- Kinda like when I ask my mom a simple question (like; "How was your day?") and she goes on and on about about some woman who's out to destroy her becasue someone mixed up an order at work or something

...But thats just my feminem side :rofl:

If I could rep you again, I would!

These are indeed loaded questions though, so I can empathize. Everything you said was accurate as well, as neural-biological, psychological, and social evolutionary factors come into play.

 

[Dadof2]

lol- I'm in process of doing just that.
..that is, once I can clearly outline things. I'm a little lacking in the organization of thoughts, as I mentioned.

Well get em together bro, and make the money while its there to be made (whilst improving the lives of men, and perhaps in the process changing the culture!)

 

[Mulletsoldier]

To supplement Mullet's point here, on "alpha traits":

"An individual with a well developed sexually selected character [such as a peacock's flashy tail] is an individual which has survived a test. A female which could discriminate between a male possessing a sexually selected character, from one without it, can discriminate between a male which has passed a test and one which has not been tested. Females which selected males with the most developed characters can be sure that they have selected from among the best genotypes of the male population. "
Amotz Zahavi (1975)

Pre-selection is key! The perception of attraction will always lead to further attraction. Being seen in a social setting with an attractive woman immediately raises your value. You've obviously passed 'sh!t tests' with this woman, and thereby have a high social value.

'Hot' girls whom are your friends are the world's greatest aphrodisiac.

 

[Dadof2]

Pre-selection is key! The perception of attraction will always lead to further attraction. Being seen in a social setting with an attractive woman immediately raises your value. You've obviously passed 'sh!t tests' with this woman, and thereby have a high social value.

'Hot' girls whom are your friends are the world's greatest aphrodisiac.

Assuming you use this method and you wind up with a girlfriend, your new girlfriend in turn hates the hot friend that was there when you met her. I have had this happen to me, and I suspect that you would concur that the new girlfriend sees the hot girl as competition/a threat.

There really is a science to this.

 

[Mulletsoldier]

Assuming you use this method and you wind up with a girlfriend, your new girlfriend in turn hates the hot friend that was there when you met her. I have had this happen to me, and I suspect that you would concur that the new girlfriend sees the hot girl as competition/a threat.

There really is a science to this.

If you meet a girl using that particular method, she would undoubtedly be insecure; however, if your intentions are sincere, she'll pick up on that, with positive benefits for you in the meantime! While the responsibility for attraction is primarily in our hands, women compete quite readily as well.

 

[xtraflossy]

If you meet a girl using that particular method, she would undoubtedly be insecure; however, if your intentions are sincere, she'll pick up on that, with positive benefits for you in the meantime! While the responsibility for attraction is primarily in our hands, women compete quite readily as well.

Most likely, the new girlfriend will usuallt hate on any female she preceives as a threat to her possisition. Most commonly in the form of raising her value by lowering the competition.

The BEST thing you can do when going solo, if make friends with the friend OF the most attractive female around.
It will blow her mind if you basicly pass-off the super-hottie for her less attractive friend. Even poke fun at her!!
It will scream higher value, and you will be the prize to be won to her. ...you will notice her start tring to get YOUR approval, simply by not letting her hotness automaticly get yours!

...So now you have every female witnessing that alpha FEmale chase YOU! ... beware that this usualy will blow the lower self-esteme female right out of the water.
Good for hooking up with the mega-hottie and social value.

 

[Mulletsoldier]

Most likely, the new girlfriend will usuallt hate on any female she preceives as a threat to her possisition. Most commonly in the form of raising her value by lowering the competition.

The BEST thing you can do when going solo, if make friends with the friend OF the most attractive female around.
It will blow her mind if you basicly pass-off the super-hottie for her less attractive friend. Even poke fun at her!!
It will scream higher value, and you will be the prize to be won to her. ...you will notice her start tring to get YOUR approval, simply by not letting her hotness automaticly get yours!

...So now you have every female witnessing that alpha FEmale chase YOU! ... beware that this usualy will blow the lower self-esteme female right out of the water.
Good for hooking up with the mega-hottie and social value.

Definitely, as usually the 'hottest girl' has the most protective friend; address the 'Mother Hen' immediately, as xtra said, even state "Excuse me, my friend and I were speaking here" when the girl whom you're are sincerely chasing butts in!

It's all playful fun, and is actually healthy both physically and socially. Fortunately, I've found a woman who is amazing enough that I no longer need to actively practice!

 

[xtraflossy]

Definitely, as usually the 'hottest girl' has the most protective friend; address the 'Mother Hen' immediately, as xtra said, even state "Excuse me, my friend and I were speaking here" when the girl whom you're are sincerely chasing butts in!

It's all playful fun, and is actually healthy both physically and socially. Fortunately, I've found a woman who is amazing enough that I no longer need to actively practice!

lol- I never was the club type. I'm much more low key.

YEars ago, I would impliment that "tech" , but my reasons were I was intimadated by the mega hottie.
Its odd, that my lower status intuitians mocked those of having very high status..

MAybe that's just one of those things ya know, .. or maybe there is something much deeper at work there, though I can't imagin at the moment HOW that behaviour would be bennificial. Perhaps in another area it is, and just by coincidence it effected this particular aspect.
I'm going to have to note that.

Mullet, are u working right now or something? ..Im reading up on a theory called "Honest signaling".. are you familure with it?
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[Mulletsoldier]

I've never heard of it to this point, though I am reading the link you gave me. I had a keen focus on method in my UnderGraduate studies, and used Evolutionary Psychology as my grounded theory.

 

[toughchick401]

This thread goes to show me that it's better to be single...LOL to much to try to think about, and wonder...uggghhhhh LOL

But beau I do wish you the best and good luck with the whole situation what ever you choose it to be....

TC

 

[Hurleyboy05]

This thread goes to show me that it's better to be single

High five Ms. TC! Couldn't have said it better myself.

 

[Mulletsoldier]

High five Ms. TC! Couldn't have said it better myself.

No way. Nothing makes me happier than seeing or speaking to Jess.

 

[Hurleyboy05]

No way. Nothing makes me happier than seeing or speaking to Jess.

Not everyone has a "Jess" though. I'm glad your's makes you happy though.

 

[Mulletsoldier]

That's why you do what xtra talked about; then you find one!

 

[B5150]

This thread goes to show me that it's better to be single...LOL to much to try to think about, and wonder...uggghhhhh LOL

When you consider the level of maturity and dysfunction of most men and women I am grateful I am married to a great woman.

I have never met so many guys and girls with serioulsy dysfunctional issues who play head games with eachother until I read what some of these guys here are like.

The "you looked at my hot girlfriend...I'm going to kick your ass" mentality really really does not do much for the male image.


"If you don't look at and hit on my hot wife right now right here in front of me I'll kick your ass" ...

..."the more threatening and underlying intentions the better"...

..."please take her out in your convertable Corvette, buy her lunch, drinks and even a cute little trinket because she eats like a horse, drinks like a fish and has too many diamonds already and I would really appreciate it if you could subsidize some of these expense. You're a pal" -B5150

 

[Mulletsoldier]

When you consider the level of maturity and dysfunction of most men and women I am grateful I am married to a great woman.

I have never met so many guys and girls with serioulsy dysfunctional issues who play head games with eachother until I read what some of these guys here are like.

The "you looked at my hot girlfriend...I'm going to kick your ass" mentality really really does not do much for the male image.


"If you don't look at and hit on my hot wife right now right here in front of me I'll kick your ass" ...

..."the more threatening and underlying intentions the better"...

..."please take her out in your convertable Corvette, buy her lunch, drinks and even a cute little trinket because she eats like a horse, drinks like a fish and has too many diamonds already and I would really appreciate it if you could subsidize some of these expense. You're a pal" -B5150

Exactly, if your girlfriend/wife/partner is attractive, other males will attempt to pick her up; being secure within yourself completely negates that.

There is no greater compliment than other men looking at your partner.

 

[Hurleyboy05]

I was just agreeing with the fact that it is easier to be single ATM. I didn't say I wanna be single forever, but right now it's just easier to stay single and enjoy the lack drama/heartache that a lot of relationships entail.

 

[B5150]

I was just agreeing with the fact that it is easier to be single ATM. I didn't say I wanna be single forever, but right now it's just easier to stay single and enjoy the lack drama/heartache that a lot of relationships entail.

Dating used to be called courting (sp). There was no exclusivity or sex. It was people getting to know eachother FIRST!

Far too many people are in "realtionships" with people who they are barely aquainted with. Being single, not desparate for "company", and seeing many different people without the complications of pre-existant "realtionship insecurities" is a good thing.

Far too often people claim to have a relationship and all they have is a secured source for sex.

 

[Dadof2]

Being married can be awesome if both parties are on the same page. Unfortunately far too many people get married with the expectation that the person they are marrying is the key to lifelong happiness. No one person is capable of always making you happy, and as a matter of fact its not the job of a husband or wife to be the source of eternal happiness.

Marriage is essentially the most intimate friendship/partnership humanly possible, and if viewed in that light it makes much more sense than the crap that is sold to us by the mass media.

 

[Mulletsoldier]

Being married can be awesome if both parties are on the same page. Unfortunately far too many people get married with the expectation that the person they are marrying is the key to lifelong happiness. No one person is capable of always making you happy, and as a matter of fact its not the job of a husband or wife to be the source of eternal happiness.

Marriage is essentially the most intimate friendship/partnership humanly possible, and if viewed in that light it makes much more sense than the crap that is sold to us by the mass media.

Silence, the most obscure sound I’ve ever heard
Those lonely, giant spaces in between your every word
And maybe, I’m totally crazy for holding on but
Just because I’m insane, don’t mean that I’m wrong
Now that you’re gone I can’t sleep at night
I barely even function right, my memory’s on overdrive
Too hungry and too cold to cry
Miss the companionship I once took for granted
The way you helped me manage, the partnership advantage,
But I don’t expect you to stay chained by the ankle,
There’s so much world to see so, fly free my angel
I’m dying without you, but it’s teaching me to live
Heaven ain’t something someone else can give
It’s all inside of me

Those lines are in a song called "Paradise" by Eyedea and Abilities; they are the perfect descriptor of what one must come to grips with in a relationship.

 

[ItsHectic]

I think you just may ask yourself what truly angers you about that situation, hypothetically. Or, better yet, what right do you have to be mad? Women aren't our property, that's part of the mindset.

They are free to do as they wish, as are you; thinking in that manner will make it so insecurity and distrust are not a necessity.

I think it may of been a respect issue for me rather than an insecurity issue, so if we look at these situations as a matter of respect rather than distrust or fear issue how does that change the way they should be treated?

I could probably think up a better example with more time, but hypothetically, your out at a bar and a too-drunk-to-land-a-punch guy half your size purposely shoulders you as he walks past. I would imagine you would atleast express your disapproval of the event rather than just chuckle it off.