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T3 Cytomel, without anabolic support??

Antro

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ok I know t3 causes catabolism and you should use anabolic support. I was wondering if you could run a mild cycle without it? I understand a bit of muscle would be lost, but would it have any health problems?

I was thinking about something along the lines off this:

Week 1: 25, 25, 25, 50, 50, 50, 75
Week 2: 75, 75, 100, 100, 75, 75, 50
Week 3: 50, 37.5, 37.5, 25, 25, 12.5, 12.5
Week 4: Off
Week 5: Off
Week 6: 25, 25, 25, 50, 50, 50, 75
Week 7: 75, 75, 100, 100, 75, 75, 50
Week 8: 50, 37.5, 37.5, 25, 25, 12.5, 12.5

Feel free to adjust the cycle, if it will be worth running without the use of anabolics. Or should I save my t3 and run it along side something in the future, i.e. anavar?

Cheers
 
Antro said:
ok I know t3 causes catabolism and you should use anabolic support. I was wondering if you could run a mild cycle without it? I understand a bit of muscle would be lost, but would it have any health problems?

I was thinking about something along the lines off this:

Week 1: 25, 25, 25, 50, 50, 50, 75
Week 2: 75, 75, 100, 100, 75, 75, 50
Week 3: 50, 37.5, 37.5, 25, 25, 12.5, 12.5
Week 4: Off
Week 5: Off
Week 6: 25, 25, 25, 50, 50, 50, 75
Week 7: 75, 75, 100, 100, 75, 75, 50
Week 8: 50, 37.5, 37.5, 25, 25, 12.5, 12.5

Feel free to adjust the cycle, if it will be worth running without the use of anabolics. Or should I save my t3 and run it along side something in the future, i.e. anavar?

Cheers
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I also have a bottle of IBE's T3, and was thinking about using it on my cutting cycle, but i may possibly throw in something anabolic/test booster to help the catabolism....maybe something along these lines....

T3/DRIVE
T3/DTH
T3/IGF-2

maybe these dosages on the T3:

Days 1,2: 50mcgs
Days 3,4: 75mcgs
Days 5-18: 100 - 125mcgs

And HERE IS THE CRITICAL STAGE:
The SLOW taper. This is CRITICAL so that TSH levels
are allowed to adapt to the dosage so that there is no crash.

Days 19-22 : 125mcgs (or 100 depends on your max)
Days 23-26 : 100mcgs
Days 27-30: 75mcgs
Days 31-34: 50mcgs

Now, SUPER-SLOW(TSH will be VERY sensitive to ANY T3 now)

Days 35-41 : 37.5mcgs
Days 42-48 : 25 mcgs
Days 49-56 : 12.5 mcgs

any and all input would be greatly appreciated.

thanks
msucurt
 
i think most people go about at least a month before cycling off. might not get much in terms of results with only two 3-week cycles, when two-thirds of the cycle is ramping up and tapering down. i would go at least 2 or 3 weeks straight where your dose is between 50-100mcgs, but without anabolics you might want to peek at 100mcgs for only a week or so. whatever you do, make sure you taper down very slowly like msucurt said.
 
Antro said:
ok I know t3 causes catabolism and you should use anabolic support. I was wondering if you could run a mild cycle without it? I understand a bit of muscle would be lost, but would it have any health problems?

I was thinking about something along the lines off this:

Week 1: 25, 25, 25, 50, 50, 50, 75
Week 2: 75, 75, 100, 100, 75, 75, 50
Week 3: 50, 37.5, 37.5, 25, 25, 12.5, 12.5
Week 4: Off
Week 5: Off
Week 6: 25, 25, 25, 50, 50, 50, 75
Week 7: 75, 75, 100, 100, 75, 75, 50
Week 8: 50, 37.5, 37.5, 25, 25, 12.5, 12.5

Cheers
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Feel free to adjust the cycle, if it will be worth running without the use of anabolics. Or should I save my t3 and run it along side something in the future, i.e. anavar?

I would definitely use a steroid alongside the t3...the taper down does not have to be so slow...the taper up should be every 4th day...but i've never run into any problems tapering down 25mcg every other day

without an anabolic....i wouldn't go higher than 50mcg
 
thats what I would think too, 50mcg is about as far as you can go without zapping some muscle along the way
 
msucurt said:
anyone withe more input on the original post?
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I also wouldn't go over 50mcg unless i'm on an anabolic, if you want to use T3 without a steroid then i'd suggest Retain 2, as a potent anti-catabolic, even still i'd maybe hit 75mcg tops and only for a few days with HIGH protein intake.
 
CHAPS said:
I also wouldn't go over 50mcg unless i'm on an anabolic, if you want to use T3 without a steroid then i'd suggest Retain 2, as a potent anti-catabolic, even still i'd maybe hit 75mcg tops and only for a few days with HIGH protein intake.
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thanks CHAPS, i appreciate it and respect your opinion. If you were to do T3, without AAS, I agree that something like DTH or retain would be a good addition.

How does this dosing protocol look::

T3 @ 50-75mcgs 3 on / 3off, (retain @ ???)

could you help out with the rest of the schedule, or how your would dose this.

thanks

msucurt
 
fastlane051 said:
Let me know how this one turns out! I will be waching this thread- i am curious as to what T3 will do by itself
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haha, this thread is about a year old and it wasn't updated so I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for a response.

Just for input tho, my cousin has been on clen/T3 along with hdrol. Its been about a week and he hasn't lost any weight at all but hopefully the stuff kicks in this coming week. He will be on clen 2 weeks on 2 off and the T3 for 42 days going as high as 125mcg then going back down to 25mcg. Hes gotten all the side effects so far but no weight loss.
 
I never understand this. The general consensus seems to be any more than 50mcg is too much without an anabolic but if T3 doesn't discriminate what it burns, would it not still burn muscle, no matter how low the doser?
 
yes and no. its the same thing as caloric deficits. If you only have a 300 calorie deficit for the day, your body can relatively easily meet that using fatty acids in blood stream. if you have a 1000 calorie deficit a day, its harder for your body to meet that with fatty acids as there normally isn't that much available over the course of the day in bloodstream.
 
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