Norwegian's Pre-contest Prep w/IntraStack [sponsored]

Day 23:

Machine Rear Laterals - 150 * 15, 150 * 15, 150 * 15, 150 * 15
Curl-grip Hammer Pulldowns - 180 * 15, 180 * 15, 160 * 15, 135 * 15
Incline Hammer Press - 160 * 15, 180 * 15, 180 * 15, 180 * 15

Dumbbell Shrugs - 125 * 20, 125 * 20, 125 * 20

Machine Rows - 140 * 15, 140 * 15, 140 * 15
Cable Upright Rows - 100 * 20, 120 * 20, 140 * 20
Incline Machine Flyes - 100 * 20, 100 * 18, 100 * 15, 80 * 15

Dumbbell Curls - 30 * 15, 30 * 15, 30 * 15
superset with
One-arm Overhead DB Extensions - 30 * 20, 30 * 20, 30 * 20

Hammer Curls - 40 * 15, 40 * 15
superset with
Dumbbell Kickbacks - 25 * 20, 25 * 20

Seated Leg Curls - 225 * 15, 225 * 15, 225 * 15, 225 * 15
Leg Extensions - 150 * 15, 150 * 15, 150 * 15, 150 * 20

Cardio:
Stationary Bike; Level 5; 35 minutes

Weight - 223.6 lbs.
 
Day 24:

Supersetting Abs with Calves. One set abs straight to one set of calves, non-stop throughout workout.

Machine Crunches - 50, 40, 40
Leaning Machine Calf Extensions - 150 * 15 reps * 3 sets

Rope Crunches - 150 * 50, 180 * 40, 180 * 40
Donkey Calf Raises - 260 * 20, 260 * 20, 260 * 20

Side DB Bends - 40 lbs in hand * 25 reps/side * 3 sets
Seated Calf Raises - 90 * 25 reps * 3 sets

Hanging Knee Raises - 25, 20, 20
One-legged Calf Extensions (Bodyweight only) - 20, 20, 20 reps

Cardio:

Stationary Bike; level 5-6; 40 minutes
 
DaveGabe: I will post the final review this weekend. I apologize for not having done it yet, but school took over this week. On the other hand, now I'm seeing what it's like to not have IntraBolic in my stack, so after a week of training with NO IntraBolic, I'll be able to justify the tried-and-true effects of it ! Let me put it this way, I can tell it's missing .. I've been able to tell since Monday's workout.. I'm just happy as hell I finished it on a sick note -> last Saturday's workout ;)
 
Day 25:

Cardio: AM

Stationary Bike; 40 minutes; level 5-6; 12 miles

- had an AWESOME morning-cardio session. 600 calories burnt in a fasted state, so I'm looking forward to my Steak and Eggwhite ommelette coming up in 5 minutes ;)

Weight: 222.6 lbs.
 
Norwegian said:
Day 25:

Cardio: AM

Stationary Bike; 40 minutes; level 5-6; 12 miles

- had an AWESOME morning-cardio session. 600 calories burnt in a fasted state, so I'm looking forward to my Steak and Eggwhite ommelette coming up in 5 minutes ;)
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Damn that sounds good. You Texans know how to eat!
 
hman85 said:
Volcom who is that in you avi?
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Amateur Bodybuilder Brandon Curry. He frequents MD magazine. He's got a great physique. I met him at the L.A. Fit Expo and he looked far more impressive to me "in person" then the other pro's I saw walking around.
 
VolcomX311 said:
Amateur Bodybuilder Brandon Curry. He frequents MD magazine. He's got a great physique. I met him at the L.A. Fit Expo and he looked far more impressive to me "in person" then the other pro's I saw walking around.
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It'd be awesome to get the opportunity to talk to a pro bodybuilder ! I've never even been to a bodybuilding show, nonetheless met a real bodybuilder and dug around in his brain .. It was pretty cool seeing Dennis James @ the JFK Airport last June, however. That's one biiiig muuutha ! He had this tiny little asian hottie with him that he must have picked up with him in the East ;)
 
Norwegian said:
It'd be awesome to get the opportunity to talk to a pro bodybuilder ! I've never even been to a bodybuilding show, nonetheless met a real bodybuilder and dug around in his brain .. It was pretty cool seeing Dennis James @ the JFK Airport last June, however. That's one biiiig muuutha ! He had this tiny little asian hottie with him that he must have picked up with him in the East ;)
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I believe he lives in Thailand, which would make him the biggest thing in that country, vehicles included.

P.S. He may have moved to Las Vegas, but I'm not sure.
 
VolcomX311 said:
I believe he lives in Thailand, which would make him the biggest thing in that country, vehicles included.

P.S. He may have moved to Las Vegas, but I'm not sure.
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haha, damn straight, yeah, I've got a couple of the Menace's work out dvds, and he's always impressed me. He was one of the first bodybuilders I familiarized myself with when picking up my December 2001 Flex Magazine issue - my very first issue ever purchased. Got Ronnie's disgustingly FREAKISH arms on the entire cover ;)

It makes ya wonder though .. Dennis has been competing for over a decade, and not yet placed impressively well in too many competitions (6th place finish was his best Mr. O?), then you got the 'new-comer' Dennis Wolf who's not even 30, and kicking ass all over the Olympia stage.. Hmm ? lol
 
Norwegian said:
Day 25:

Cardio: AM

Stationary Bike; 40 minutes; level 5-6; 12 miles

- had an AWESOME morning-cardio session. 600 calories burnt in a fasted state, so I'm looking forward to my Steak and Eggwhite ommelette coming up in 5 minutes ;)

Weight: 222.6 lbs.
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Do you take protein before fasted cardio or nothing at all?
 
hman85 said:
Do you take protein before fasted cardio or nothing at all?
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Varies from day to day, but sometimes drinking only a whey protein shake gives me stomach discomfort, so I try to avoid anything prior to my AM-cardio session.

I NEVER have a meal, prior, though. Sometimes I'll choke down my thermos with a glass of water and then have a shake, but within 30-40 minutes of waking up, I'm on that treadmill or stationary bike, so it IS a preference to be running on empty for me.
 
Day 25:

Incline Hammer Press - (180 * 15), 270 * 8, 270 * 8, 270 * 8
Flat DB Flyes - (60 * 12) 75 * 12, 95 * 6

Seated Side Laterals - (30 * 15) 45 * 10, 45 * 10
Upright Barbell Rows - (80 * 12) 110 * 12, 110 * 12

Behind-neck Pulldowns - 200 * 10, 220 * 8, 200 * 10
Incline Icarian Rows - (90 * 15), 115 * 12, 125 * 10

Dumbbell Shrugs - 150 * 15, 150 * 15, 150 * 15

Uni-arm Machine Curls - (90 * 20) 110 * 15, 130 * 12, 150 * 12, 170 * 10
Machine Dips - (210 * 20) 270 * 15, 270 * 12, 270 * 12

Hack Squats - 360 * 12, 450 * 8, 450 * 6, 405 * 6, 360 * 8

Weight - 222.6 lbs.

- a sick, sick workout. Vascularity is very dominant, hellacious pump, traps are growing, back is getting much more defined; if I don't get some pictures from post-workout either on Saturday or next Thursday, I'm gonna be p-o'd, because I gotta see this more up close !

March 10th - 240.8 lbs.
March 27th - 222.6 lbs.

I'm very satisfied ! ;)
 
Norwegian said:
Day 25:

Incline Hammer Press - (180 * 15), 270 * 8, 270 * 8, 270 * 8
Flat DB Flyes - (60 * 12) 75 * 12, 95 * 6

Seated Side Laterals - (30 * 15) 45 * 10, 45 * 10
Upright Barbell Rows - (80 * 12) 110 * 12, 110 * 12

Behind-neck Pulldowns - 200 * 10, 220 * 8, 200 * 10
Incline Icarian Rows - (90 * 15), 115 * 12, 125 * 10

Dumbbell Shrugs - 150 * 15, 150 * 15, 150 * 15

Uni-arm Machine Curls - (90 * 20) 110 * 15, 130 * 12, 150 * 12, 170 * 10
Machine Dips - (210 * 20) 270 * 15, 270 * 12, 270 * 12

Hack Squats - 360 * 12, 450 * 8, 450 * 6, 405 * 6, 360 * 8

Weight - 222.6 lbs.

- a sick, sick workout. Vascularity is very dominant, hellacious pump, traps are growing, back is getting much more defined; if I don't get some pictures from post-workout either on Saturday or next Thursday, I'm gonna be p-o'd, because I gotta see this more up close !

March 10th - 240.8 lbs.
March 27th - 222.6 lbs.

I'm very satisfied ! ;)
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That's a fricken amazing weight drop! Your diet must be spot-on. Kudos
 
Hey man, had a real crazy last few days, but I'm back!


That is some insane weight loss, but I'm not surprised. Following along, I could just tell you're results were going to be staggering :cool:
 
DaveGabe24 said:
Hey man, had a real crazy last few days, but I'm back!


That is some insane weight loss, but I'm not surprised. Following along, I could just tell you're results were going to be staggering :cool:
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Lol, good to have ya back as always, bro !

How ya liking the DTH thus far ?!

Yeah, when I managed to get below and REMAIN below 230 even after a carb-up, I knew that this time around was different from before. Results are coming in, at a fast pace - knock on wood - and I'm very much looking forward to seeing where this is all gonna end up ! ;)
 
Norwegian said:
Lol, good to have ya back as always, bro !

How ya liking the DTH thus far ?!

Yeah, when I managed to get below and REMAIN below 230 even after a carb-up, I knew that this time around was different from before. Results are coming in, at a fast pace - knock on wood - and I'm very much looking forward to seeing where this is all gonna end up ! ;)
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It's solid man, despite the profile....the results are there. So many of those who live and die by pubmeds and ignore anecdotal feedback might be missing out afterall :cool: So far it really is coming pretty damn close to ActX...the final pictures + measurements will give a good idea as well.
 
Day 26: Carb-load

Cardio - 30 minute run outside

I just got to be active; I hate sitting down on my ass all day while digging in, so I always do one cardio session even on carb-load day.
 
I am happy to hear that I gave you what you guys were looking for ! It's been a week without the IntraStack (well, the IntraBolic) and I've found myself become nauseous 3/4 or so through every full-body depletion workout, and this never happened while I was choking down my 'Hulk-juice' (you don't understand how many people asked what the @@@@ I was drinking ! haha.. No worries, 'AEN ALL THE WAY!' ;))

If I were to choose ONE of these products again, it'd be the Intrabolic. It is by far the best intra-workout drink I've ever had ! With NO carbs in my system, and with the amount of cardio and training I did while on the IntraBolic, I shouldn't have been able to complete my workouts like I did, nonetheless give it my ALL on every exercise, for every muscle group, and top it off with cardio immidiately following the completion of my workouts.

AEN, I am VERY impressed ! IntraBolic is indeed the KING of INTRA-WORKOUT NUTRITION !

Thank you again for giving me this opportunity !
 
Day 27: HEAVY DAY, BABY !!

Deadlifts - (135 * 10, 250 * 6) 340 * 6, 430 * 6, 520 * 2 (RAW), 520 * 2 (w/straps), 470 * 4
Pullups - 8, 8, 8

Flat DB Press - 90 * 8, 120 * 6, 130 * 4, 120 * 6
Incline Hammer Press - (180 * 10) 270 * 6, 270 * 6, 320 * 5, 320 * 5

Seated DB Press - 75 * 8, 85 * 6, 85 * 6, 85 * 6
Reverse Pec-dec Flyes - 150 * 10, 170 * 10, 170 * 10

Seated Machine Curls - 150 * 12, 200 * 6, 200 * 6, 200 * 6
Machine Dips - 210 * 20, 270 * 15, 285 * 12, 285 * 12

Hack Squats - 360 * 6, 450 * 2, 405 * 4, 360 * 10
superset with
Barbell Shrugs - 225 * 20, 225 * 20, 225 * 20, 225 * 30

Weight - 223.8 lbs (POST-carb load;))


- I didn't realize how low [reps] I went on Thursday's Hack Squat session, so after my first set of 360, I knew I wasn't gonna be doing any 6 plates per side today, so I upped the intensity by supersetting instead. My last set of 360 for 10 was originally gonna be no more than for 6 reps (I thought ahead of time), but there's just something about pushing yourself to the limit on those hacks, so I sucked it up and got 4 extra very low, painful, mentally and physically draining reps, and finished off on a semi-good note afterall !

- Got a new Personal Record on the Deadlifts, too ! It was SICK ! And the first time around, no wraps, veins popping out of my shoulders and traps, and many, MANY looks from old friends, followed, by, 'WTF?!?' ;)
 
:box: those numbers are sick dude. Are hack squats difficult to get used to doing? I hear nothing but good things about them being better for your back/knees/etc.
 
Hmm, time to open a new log now, then, Day 27, and I ran out of the IntraXCell, as well. I've enjoyed the HELL out of choking down 3-4 caps pre-workout, then another 3-4 caps about half-way through my workout, only to kick in and make me sweat my NUTS off during my cardio sessions !
 
SilentBob187 said:
:box: those numbers are sick dude. Are hack squats difficult to get used to doing? I hear nothing but good things about them being better for your back/knees/etc.
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Hack Squats have become a staple for me now, because, like you mentioned, they're GREAT considering they fact that the lower back is taken out of the action, which allows me to keep pumping out high reps with little rest in between sets. I can't IMAGINE doing high-rep squats with 45-60 seconds in between sets. Honestly, that would DRAIN me, put me down in a second as if I got shot by four gorilla tranquilizer darts ! And my back would be out of whack in no time, because the more tired you get on squats, the more you have a tendency to lean forward .. and more forward .. and more .. You get the picture ;)

And they're as easy on the knees as you want them to. You adjust the stance according to what's more comfortable.

Hack Squats is the Real Deal !
 
Thanks man. Food for thought: If the guy that's bigger than you does it, it may be worth doing yourself.
 
Norwegian said:
I am happy to hear that I gave you what you guys were looking for ! It's been a week without the IntraStack (well, the IntraBolic) and I've found myself become nauseous 3/4 or so through every full-body depletion workout, and this never happened while I was choking down my 'Hulk-juice' (you don't understand how many people asked what the @@@@ I was drinking ! haha.. No worries, 'AEN ALL THE WAY!' ;))

If I were to choose ONE of these products again, it'd be the Intrabolic. It is by far the best intra-workout drink I've ever had ! With NO carbs in my system, and with the amount of cardio and training I did while on the IntraBolic, I shouldn't have been able to complete my workouts like I did, nonetheless give it my ALL on every exercise, for every muscle group, and top it off with cardio immidiately following the completion of my workouts.

AEN, I am VERY impressed ! IntraBolic is indeed the KING of INTRA-WORKOUT NUTRITION !

Thank you again for giving me this opportunity !
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It really makes everything that much better for both sides when the logger enjoyed the stack. Not only did we get a great log, but to top it off you're progress is insane man. Couldn't be happier for you, and you can be damned sure I'll be following your next log and progress. :cool:
 
Another pointer ... What I loved about this IntraStack is the fact that it worked better than any pre-workout drink I've had. The thing about me and pre-workout drinks is that 9/10 of them give me major stomach discomfort, and just ruins my workout preparations, and makes every workout start off on a bad note .. They make me feel bloated and most often gives me indigestion .. The IntraStack gives you the energy/pump/vascularity similar to any pre-workout drink I've had, and only ONCE did I have stomach issues, and that was when I mixed ONE scoop with 3/4 gallon. That was wayyyy too watered out to drink in enjoyment ..
 
Norwegian said:
Another pointer ... What I loved about this IntraStack is the fact that it worked better than any pre-workout drink I've had. The thing about me and pre-workout drinks is that 9/10 of them give me major stomach discomfort, and just ruins my workout preparations, and makes every workout start off on a bad note .. They make me feel bloated and most often gives me indigestion .. The IntraStack gives you the energy/pump/vascularity similar to any pre-workout drink I've had, and only ONCE did I have stomach issues, and that was when I mixed ONE scoop with 3/4 gallon. That was wayyyy too watered out to drink in enjoyment ..
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Very good points man, I can imagine in some of the fasted workouts that your stomach is very sensitive to what you throw in it prior to a workout, especially with your crazy-psycho-run like there's no tomorrow cardio.
 
Norwegian said:
Day 27: HEAVY DAY, BABY !!

Deadlifts - (135 * 10, 250 * 6) 340 * 6, 430 * 6, 520 * 2 (RAW), 520 * 2 (w/straps), 470 * 4
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520lbs for 2 Raw, you beastly bastard! Good job. I'm jealous, my lower back is still out of commission so I can't Deadlift :whiner:
 
Day 31:

Curl-grip Pulldowns - 200 * 15 reps * 4 sets
Icarian Rows - 70 * 15 reps * 3 sets

Decline Hammer Press - 270 * 15 reps * 4 sets
Incline Flyes - 50 * 15 reps * 4 sets

Machine Front Presses - 90 * 15, 80 * 15 reps * 3 sets
Seated Side Laterals - 30 * 15 reps * 3 sets

Seated Dumbbell Shrugs - 125 * 20 reps * 3 sets

Barbell Curls - 65 * 20, 85 * 15 reps * 3 sets
Dips - BW * 50 reps, 25 reps, 25 reps

Hack Squats - 180 * 15, 230 * 15 reps * 3 sets
Machine One-leg Curls - 50 * 15 reps * 3
 
I ended up prematurely ending my AMP log. I was switch hitting with AMP/AMP2 for about 2 weeks ranging from 2-6 caps/ED. I forgot the bottle over the weekend and subsequently stopped taking it for those days. Immediately after I stopped taking AMP, I fell into a depression.

I felt great while I was on AMP, and was on cloud 9, but afterwards I became extremely depressed. I am prone to depression as this is something I've been struggling with, but after I got off AMP, it felt like a switch turned off.
 
ReaperX said:
I ended up prematurely ending my AMP log. I was switch hitting with AMP/AMP2 for about 2 weeks ranging from 2-6 caps/ED. I forgot the bottle over the weekend and subsequently stopped taking it for those days. Immediately after I stopped taking AMP, I fell into a depression.

I felt great while I was on AMP, and was on cloud 9, but afterwards I became extremely depressed. I am prone to depression as this is something I've been struggling with, but after I got off AMP, it felt like a switch turned off.
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Oh man, I'm sorry to hear that ! .. damn, even has ME worrying now ! I returned my Leviathan Reloaded (never again PAL) and sitting on my AMP only now, so I'll be relying on that untill I get my JetFuel in the mail (tried and true for me). How long after your final dosage did you start feeling depressed ? Did you crash from your AMP dosages towards the end ?
 
Depression is something I'm prone to, primarly because of excessive worrying and anxiety. I have been having a lot of shlt going on in my life too. I just stopped cold turkey since I forgot it. At the point where I stopped, I was doing 6 caps/ED easy.


I recall earlier in the week about reading that geranamine in the AMP crosses the blood brain barrier. I didn't think much of it, but it stuck in the back of my head. I started feeling down about 24 hrs (1 day) after I took my last AMP dose.

Its funny because for awhile I was thinking to myself, 'Shlt, this stuff is so good they should put depressed people on it because it is probably cheaper than perscript. meds'.

I might consider trying Jet Fuel in the future, but if you are still on AMP, I recommend tapering down the doses before getting off. I was feeling pretty damn good and taking high amounts of AMP before I got off. Then I crashed.


How come you returned your Leviathan Reloaded ?
 
ReaperX said:
Depression is something I'm prone to, primarly because of excessive worrying and anxiety. I have been having a lot of shlt going on in my life too. I just stopped cold turkey since I forgot it. At the point where I stopped, I was doing 6 caps/ED easy.


I recall earlier in the week about reading that geranamine in the AMP crosses the blood brain barrier. I didn't think much of it, but it stuck in the back of my head. I started feeling down about 24 hrs (1 day) after I took my last AMP dose.

Its funny because for awhile I was thinking to myself, 'Shlt, this stuff is so good they should put depressed people on it because it is probably cheaper than perscript. meds'.

I might consider trying Jet Fuel in the future, but if you are still on AMP, I recommend tapering down the doses before getting off. I was feeling pretty damn good and taking high amounts of AMP before I got off. Then I crashed.


How come you returned your Leviathan Reloaded ?
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Trust me, I will take your advice on the tapering down ! I've been on most different kinds of anxiety prescription meds through the years, a mild depression/heavy anxiety kind of deal .. Therapy, counseling, all that ****.. I don't need a 'reminder' of that coming up when I run out of AMP to put it that way !!

I returned the LR because I was doing 4 caps at a time with no effect.. Not a chance I will be using a product @ 8 caps/day when they recommend not exceeding 4 caps/day. Not cost efficient by any means. Fact of the matter is I've tried a one week supple of Leviathan Reloaded before (samples, thanks to Nutra), and I enjoyed the hell out of that week; fantastic mood, alertness, focused, energetic (a very pure eneregy surge). This time around, I felt the aforementioned effects the first two days @ 2 caps/twice daily, but beyond that, 2 caps did nothing, and I've combined it with AMP ever since. 2-4 caps LR alongside of 1-3 caps of AMP (mix and match kind of deal) .. Took 4 caps LR by itself on an empty stomach, and little to speak of .. I was very disappointed, I must admit. I don't believe the potency of the bottle content was the same as the samples I had last semester, knock on wood..

JetFuel, however, worked for me in the past, has INSTANT absorption (I feel a fire burning within 10-15 minutes of consumption on an empty stomach), and it keeps me alert and crazy energetic. 3 caps Jetfuel prior to AM-cardio -- few things work better ;)
 
Leviathan Reloaded gave me headaches if I took more then one dose of it, so my first dose was awesome, full of energy, feeling good, but by my second dose I got bad headaches. What I do now is I'm primarily on Adrenalean/Lean Xtreme & Ephedrine hcl/Yohimbine hcl and the Adrenalean is recommended just twice daily, so I do that for my AM cardio and afternoon and the Leviathan with the EY for my PM workouts.

I like LR, and I wished I didn't get the headaches, but I do, so I won't be re-ordering the LR myself either.
 
Anyway .. Now that I've got time to sit down and write a couple words. Yesterday, I was drained the whole goddamn day, didn't feel fresh, energetic or anything, just dead tired and drained. My workout was hard-core, and I got a hellacious full body pump (even though I barely had energy for legs towards the end), and I looked insanely big. Got a new personal record on bodyweight dips with 50 reps, and barbell curls gave me the bicep pump of the century. But, like I said, I felt like ****, but kept pushing on, rep after rep, set after set .. In between sets I was hunched over, drained, almost gasping for breath...

Workout was over, and although I was NOT up for cardio, I sat down on the stationary bike, and began cycling.. 1 minute in, and I had to stop, lean over, and take some deep breaths, I was about 5 seconds from fainting at this point. 30 seconds rest, and I began cycling again, and not even one more minute in, and I had to stop, lean over, and just felt my whole body completely drained/depleted, and feeling like complete utter ****. This time, I was two steps away from fainting. I got off the bike, and wabbled back to my car and got home, having a hard time focusing on the road. When I got back home, I sat/laid down for 15-20 minutes, and standing up was a battle.. I was still dizzy and out of it, and I felt like doing nothing but just lay down. I felt cracked out big time from 9-midnight, but didn't fall asleep. Crashed at about 1am, and woke up at 8.30am, barely able to wake up as opposed to every other day the past 3 weeks when I've been up for cardio immidiately upon waking. I woke up 5 minutes prior to class, so I knew I wouldn't have time for AM cardio, but it didn't make me feel bad about it.

I took two LR and two AMP on an empty stomach this morning - 4 hours ago - and now I'm just walking around in a drowsy and exhaustive state. Mind and body is drained .. Sitting and laying down seems a luxury at the moment.

My question .. Am I stimmed out ? Am I overtrained ?

I honestly feel like I just don't take advantage of my carb load nor my weekend .. I mean, I give myself NO f@cking rest, and I feel so goddamn guilty endulging in carbs on my carb-load that I don't ever meet my carb-load requirement.. It hasn't been a problem untill just the past week, approximately, and I feel like it's been more the past week or two that I've begun relying on stimulants and the likes to get me through my day energy wise..

Hoping for some interesting, eye-opening feedback here, if you guys even bother to read this rant. Getting off my diet is a HELL-NO kind of deal, but I don't know if I'm mentally and physically capable of doing another full body session today. I mean, I've got 6-7 hours or so to find out, but at the moment, I just don't know ..
 
It sounds like all of the above. Stims+lack of carbs+intense training. Your body is starting to fight back, you said that you are feeling disoriented ?

When I go very low on carbs, as much as I hate doing it, I try and cut out the stims completely which makes working out damn near impossible.


Low carbs (low energy) combined with stims just makes me feel outright dizzy and like shlt.


As hard as it may be, try tapering off the stims.
 
Sounds like over-training in of itself from a physical stand point and over-training from a nutrient stand point, with the lack of appropriate energy source to supply the energy demand you're placing on your body, double edged sword. The over-stim is a hard call. Over stim symptoms, from my experience and others who've related, shows itself by headaches/dizziness, but not related to intense exercise, simply the occurrence of headaches and/or lack of response to stims. Which I've had where I actually fell asleep after taking a full dose of RPM's.

I understand about the diet discipline, there comes a time when I get so obsessive that my carb cycling simply becomes a low/no carb diet, period. I'm not there yet, but I know I will be. I understand psychologically, the diet can't change, but maybe you should take 3 days to let your body recover and let what little carbs to get replenished in the muscle.
 
I agree with you both, and I appreciate the suggestive responses. I've decided that I won't be working out today, PERIOD. No cardio, no abs, no weights. Tomorrow, I'll be doing at least one sessions of cardio plus abs and calves, but I will not be hitting the weights again until Thursday's already plannet out workout. Today will literally be my first day OFF from any form of exercise in I believe 3 weeks. Even carb-load days have included a run or a cardio session .. I got to listen to my body this time around.

Also, I won't refrain from my diet. I won't add any carbs, nor will I change any meals or treat myself with 'just ONE' of anything out of the ordinary. Truthfully, my glycogen storages are already significantly depleted. I haven't enjoyed carbs since Saturday around Noon, prior to my Saturday's workout. I'm getting my MCT oil, fish oil and some more hawthorn berry in today. The MCT is ideal for a diet such as mine as it helps burn fat for energy once my glycogen storages are low, and I'm hoping I'll be able to cut back on my stims when I get my Beta Alanine (thank you volcomX311!), as that always helps my endurance, focus and stamina in the gym in a non-stim manner. Fact of the matter is that I never felt like this while on the IntraStack, as it was the BA that kept me pushing myself, as opposed to a bunch of caffeine, yohimbine and so on and so forth ..
 
it is interesting because I am starting to think that I am obsessed with working out, in a very unhealthy way.

I have had this massive flu that has kept me from working out for 3 days. Prior to it, I was thinking to myself when the last time I've had a break was.

It has been atleast a good 3 months since I've taken some time off. It just occured to me that I've been working out 6-7 days/week either cardio or weight training. It isn't even necessarly about looking good or getting into shape, just my workouts in the evening is what gets me through the day.
 
ReaperX said:
it is interesting because I am starting to think that I am obsessed with working out, in a very unhealthy way.

I have had this massive flu that has kept me from working out for 3 days. Prior to it, I was thinking to myself when the last time I've had a break was.

It has been atleast a good 3 months since I've taken some time off. It just occured to me that I've been working out 6-7 days/week either cardio or weight training. It isn't even necessarly about looking good or getting into shape, just my workouts in the evening is what gets me through the day.
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I get like that in the summer, and I recognize it, but I can't stop it. We can be a little EAA group, Exercise Anonymous. "It's okay to rest, we won't wake up with a second chin." Norwegian and I can start the NCA, no carbs anonymous, but I'm not ready for that yet....
 
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