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USPLabs said:
If you can not tolerate it just send me your bottle and I will either refund or trade.
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Well thats one heck of a generous offer, thank you. Although I do hope I DONT have to take you up on it.

Im not going to do an online log, but I am going to try to keep a close eye on bp, body temp, etc. Not only for my personal curiosity but if anyone else cares, I may post results.

Was there a release date yet, I might have missed if it was posted, but it would sure be nice if it hits real soon, with the nice weather right around the corner.
 
I'm sort of like you in that I don't take a lot of stimulants any more. At first I did notice some stim affects from Recreate. All I usually drink is a few cups of tea per day and I can also easily feel only 2 RPM. I got used to the stim affects within about a week or so and it's not bad at all, at least for me. Sorry to Jacob that I can't do a large review quite yet because I'm near the end of my school year right now and writing a bunch of reports and projects.

I will say that I did really like Recreate and I'll be buying a bunch as soon as it comes out. I lost about 3 lbs over the 3-4 weeks that I was taking it and I was taking 3 at first and then 4 per day after about a week. My strength didn't drop at all which is great because usually I will lose some strength on a cut. I can see my abs a lot better now too and veins are more visible in my calves and other areas where I usually wouldn't see them.
 
ill be really annoyed if u do it over easter weekend cos im away!! and thats really unfair!!!

please hold off until tuesday!!! :(

lol
 
USPLabs said:
Run Recreate as a the base. You continually using Recreate and cycle in EPhedrine 14 days on and 10 days off. Repeat.
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Would this apply to a booster like RPM as well or specific to ephedrine since its really only for an rmr/energy boost?
 
OCCFan023 said:
Would this apply to a booster like RPM as well or specific to ephedrine since its really only for an rmr/energy boost?
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You could use different combinations, but what is in RPM?

Ephedrine liberates fat by stimulating norepinephrine release and liberating free fatty acids plus has a great appetite suppressing effect.
 
USPLabs said:
You could use different combinations, but what is in RPM?

Ephedrine liberates fat by stimulating norepinephrine release and liberating free fatty acids plus has a great appetite suppressing effect.
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Basically the products that would work similar to ReCreate in RPM would be Chocamine (with its cafeine content) and the added Methyl Xanthine Anhydrous Caffeine.

With secondary ingredients that I assume wouldn't be over excessive between the two being Icariin, l-Arginine, grape seed extract.

From reading the ingredient descriptions on ReCreate it seems that all of the ingredients (mainly because there all break through) would not cause any unsafe mixtures but would have some nice complimentary aspects. Apologies if I miss labeled any of the ingredients between RPM and ReCreate as being similar/non similiar.
 
OCCFan023 said:
Basically the products that would work similar to ReCreate in RPM would be Chocamine (with its cafeine content) and the added Methyl Xanthine Anhydrous Caffeine.

With secondary ingredients that I assume wouldn't be over excessive between the two being Icariin, l-Arginine, grape seed extract.

From reading the ingredient descriptions on ReCreate it seems that all of the ingredients (mainly because there all break through) would not cause any unsafe mixtures but would have some nice complimentary aspects. Apologies if I miss labeled any of the ingredients between RPM and ReCreate as being similar/non similiar.
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Not similiar except for the caffiene.
 
I think that the ephedrine would still offer aspects of fat loss that you wont find with RPM and would most likely be a more potent stack with the reacreate.

I do however think RPM and Recreate would be a dandy stack that could be continuously ran together but you better have alot of towels and a change of clothes when you go to the gym, cause RPM alone makes me sweat like crazy.
 
poopypants said:
I think that the ephedrine would still offer aspects of fat loss that you wont find with RPM and would most likely be a more potent stack with the reacreate.

I do however think RPM and Recreate would be a dandy stack that could be continuously ran together but you better have alot of towels and a change of clothes when you go to the gym, cause RPM alone makes me sweat like crazy.
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not wrong there - Im burning up to 1100 cal/hr in a big muscle group WO with RPM - need a sweatband to keep it out of my eyes haha!
 
poopypants said:
I think that the ephedrine would still offer aspects of fat loss that you wont find with RPM and would most likely be a more potent stack with the reacreate.

I do however think RPM and Recreate would be a dandy stack that could be continuously ran together but you better have alot of towels and a change of clothes when you go to the gym, cause RPM alone makes me sweat like crazy.
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Yea the ephedrine would probably offer a more formidable fat loss stack with ReCreate but I am interested to see potentially fat loss/muscle strength(or any gains) that would come from the two. Definitely going to log the two once its put out since I think some people would be more apt to trying RPM over ephedrine (just because of all the FDA regulations that have everyone confused and thinking its all banned.) Plus the potential results.

Also I want to re-define "please wipe down the equipment after use." :lol:
 
RPM, Recreate AAANNNND Ephedrine stack? Am I hearing this right? Cause I'd be willing to try that. Or were you guys talking about Recreate/RPM OR Recreate/Ephedrine?

My current stack, below my signature is about to run out, but my cut phase is far from over, so I'm waiting on the Recreate and listening for potential augmenting factors.

I've already got AP/Pslin waiting to add into my next batch once this area 51 Recreate release finally happens.
 
VolcomX311 said:
RPM, Recreate AAANNNND Ephedrine stack? Am I hearing this right? Cause I'd be willing to try that. Or were you guys talking about Recreate/RPM OR Recreate/Ephedrine?

My current stack, below my signature is about to run out, but my cut phase is far from over, so I'm waiting on the Recreate and listening for potential augmenting factors.

I've already got AP/Pslin waiting to add into my next batch once this area 51 Recreate release finally happens.
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Lol just thinking about that stack made my adrenal system shed a tear in fear. That'd be some insane fat loss capabilities though.
 
Release date?
 
VolcomX311 said:
I have some Reset-AD to help wipe away those tears, but I'm not sure how effective it is.
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Jacob speaking of this do we have any feedback on how rough Recreate is on the adrenals? I know it is not "good" for your adrenals like was first discussed but nothing in it (besides the little bit of caffine) looks too bad on the adrenals?????
 
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i dont care how hot it may make you....ive used dnp and thats very uncomfortable and im sure nothing legal can even come close............but just how much can it **** up the comfort level of dnp?i am planning on only running 100mg a day for 6 weeks and staying on recreate for a few weeks afterwards.....especially since you say it helps kill appetite....and i like stims while on the d
i still wont buy though if logs come back negative or you dont release ingredients soon though....or if its too expensive
so how would it compare to 200mg dnp,12mg t-3 and albuterol/yohimbine stack with a lil meridia for good measure??
 
anapolack2 said:
i dont care how hot it may make you....ive used dnp and thats very uncomfortable and im sure nothing legal can even come close............but just how much can it **** up the comfort level of dnp?i am planning on only running 100mg a day for 6 weeks and staying on recreate for a few weeks afterwards.....especially since you say it helps kill appetite....and i like stims while on the d
i still wont buy though if logs come back negative or you dont release ingredients soon though....or if its too expensive
so how would it compare to 200mg dnp,12mg t-3 and albuterol/yohimbine stack with a lil meridia for good measure??
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I doubt it will touch that bro... if it can then thats GREAT.

but you need to realize this is going to be one reasonabley priced LEGAL product, if it even does HALF of all those scheduled or research chem compounds can do then its worth every penny.
 
poopypants said:
I doubt it will touch that bro... if it can then thats GREAT.

but you need to realize this is going to be one reasonabley priced LEGAL product, if it even does HALF of all those scheduled or research chem compounds can do then its worth every penny.
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I'll tell you what it would be much better at muscle preservation because that stack without anabolics would leave you feeling like pee wee herman.
 
USPLabs said:
I'll tell you what it would be much better at muscle preservation because that stack without anabolics would leave you feeling like pee wee herman.
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true, the T3 alone can eat you up... to think hes then burning the furnaces at full blast and adding synephrine/albuterol.... wow.

Now recreate is totally muscle preserving correct?
 
umm idk about you guys but i wanna buy recreate just cuz the box packaging looks sweet....i mean really now. :lol:
 
You got mail...
 
poopypants said:
true, the T3 alone can eat you up... to think hes then burning the furnaces at full blast and adding synephrine/albuterol.... wow.

Now recreate is totally muscle preserving correct?
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Plus, he probably feels like garbage and looks like death. Recreate has feel good happy days feeling!

If you are eating 1000 calories maybe not but it sure does have an anabolic/anti catabolic aspect.
 
of course diet has to be set up for a healthy cut/maintainance but its always great to catch a lil anabolism while your at it!

I do have to say I was already seeing insane recomping results with AP and pslin(creatine) on a slightly lower then maintainance diet and havnt dropped a pound. Cant wait to see what Recreate will have to offer in accelerating/facilitating this.
 
USPLabs said:
Plus, he probably feels like garbage and looks like death. Recreate has feel good happy days feeling!

If you are eating 1000 calories maybe not but it sure does have an anabolic/anti catabolic aspect.
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i only did stack like that in the winter.......i should have thrown pyruvate in the mix

and yeah....some days i felt like ****........and i only did 12.5 of t-3

anyways so your stuff is muscle sparing?and how does the appetite suppression work in comparison to accomplia or dexadrine?or is it some hoodia type compound?
 
poopypants said:
of course diet has to be set up for a healthy cut/maintainance but its always great to catch a lil anabolism while your at it!

I do have to say I was already seeing insane recomping results with AP and pslin(creatine) on a slightly lower then maintainance diet and havnt dropped a pound. Cant wait to see what Recreate will have to offer in accelerating/facilitating this.
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Recreate and AP is amazing fat loss combo. I will have a pictures up soon.

AP has allowed me to achieve the physique that I've always wanted.
 
USPLabs; said:
Recreate and AP is amazing fat loss combo...
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:cheers:
 
I've been curious, would there be any advantages or draw backs to running ReCreate on a low carb diet (in this case I would be taking it during a CKD.) I find people reporting the most temperature raises coming with increased fat intake (I'm assuming you say Jminis pb and uncomfortable insane heat.) Is there anything you know of that would cause this to be constant during the high fat intake while on a CKD?

I imagine that ReCreate would fit extremely well in on ckd with p-slin and ap on carb ups for a primo fat loss/muscle sparing stack, but thought i would ask to potentially to see if there were any problems that could be seen.
 
USPLabs said:
Recreate and AP is amazing fat loss combo. I will have a pictures up soon.

AP has allowed me to achieve the physique that I've always wanted.
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I believe it! Seriosly Have still been getting stronger as well with the creatine and Pslin. This is on a caloric deficit on most days, only on the days Im not working (ususally once or twice a week) do I get in enough cals.

But I do still get to abuse carbs more through both the days that Im in deficit, so I dont just die at work, and also big time preworkout and on my larger cal days. Which leads me to the below quote.

OCCFan023 said:
I've been curious, would there be any advantages or draw backs to running ReCreate on a low carb diet (in this case I would be taking it during a CKD.) I find people reporting the most temperature raises coming with increased fat intake (I'm assuming you say Jminis pb and uncomfortable insane heat.) Is there anything you know of that would cause this to be constant during the high fat intake while on a CKD?

I imagine that ReCreate would fit extremely well in on ckd with p-slin and ap on carb ups for a primo fat loss/muscle sparing stack, but thought i would ask to potentially to see if there were any problems that could be seen.
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I personally think that If your going to choose to use a Diet like ckd AND still want to try something like AP as well theeeeeeen just adjust the ckd diet.

Use at least 15-30g's of carbs with each dose to really get its effects going and just dont count those carbs as part of your diet, continue to reduce everywhere else your supposed to and pretend lik those carbs are just part of your AP not part of your caloric diet. I feel this way youll get the best of both worlds. Then on your refeed days bust out and get the full 60g's of carbs with your dosing meals if not a lil more and the AP will be doing double time for helping your body store that needed glycogen refeed where its supposed to go, the muscles.

JMO, been thinking this for a bit everytime I see a guy ask about using AP along with the CKD diet.... think you should take the diet as just an outline then always take your supps in to account and what they can do for you and mold your base diet around what they can do.
 
poopypants said:
I believe it! Seriosly Have still been getting stronger as well with the creatine and Pslin. This is on a caloric deficit on most days, only on the days Im not working (ususally once or twice a week) do I get in enough cals.

But I do still get to abuse carbs more through both the days that Im in deficit, so I dont just die at work, and also big time preworkout and on my larger cal days. Which leads me to the below quote.




I personally think that If your going to choose to use a Diet like ckd AND still want to try something like AP as well theeeeeeen just adjust the ckd diet.

Use at least 15-30g's of carbs with each dose to really get its effects going and just dont count those carbs as part of your diet, continue to reduce everywhere else your supposed to and pretend lik those carbs are just part of your AP not part of your caloric diet. I feel this way youll get the best of both worlds. Then on your refeed days bust out and get the full 60g's of carbs with your dosing meals if not a lil more and the AP will be doing double time for helping your body store that needed glycogen refeed where its supposed to go, the muscles.

JMO, been thinking this for a bit everytime I see a guy ask about using AP along with the CKD diet.... think you should take the diet as just an outline then always take your supps in to account and what they can do for you and mold your base diet around what they can do.
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Thats an interesting thought. If I were to use AP on any type of keto diet I would personally just instigate in with a TKD and keep AP doses with the workout carbs (I had actually been doing that when I dropped cals and carbs down right before starting the full blown CKD.) However even while using AP I would imagine it would defeat the purpose of a legit CKD because there would still be glycogen being stored in the muscle and from what I've read its all about depleting muscle glycogen to around 70mmol/kg through the depletion workouts then down to full depletion before the carb up.

This is going to be my first weekend carb up (since its my first week on the diet) and I'm planning on taking P-Slin with my first carb up meal directly post final depletion workout (150 grams of carbs) then AP with either 3 or 4 of the other 5 carb meals (each meal is around 100 grams since I need to get in 780 grams of carbs.) With p-slin and AP I am positive that it will eliminate any chances (even if there small on carb ups) for any carbs to be stored as fat and or used as energy (goal is to keep up ketosis while on the carb up) and with these supps that is a definite possibility.

This is all speculation on my part and just how I feel, but I will be sure to judge the results and see how my body responds. So basically P-slin and AP to ensure maximal glycogen storage and then ReCreate during the week and during carb up to ensure maximal fat loss.
 
poopypants said:
I believe it! Seriosly Have still been getting stronger as well with the creatine and Pslin. This is on a caloric deficit on most days, only on the days Im not working (ususally once or twice a week) do I get in enough cals.

But I do still get to abuse carbs more through both the days that Im in deficit, so I dont just die at work, and also big time preworkout and on my larger cal days. Which leads me to the below quote.




I personally think that If your going to choose to use a Diet like ckd AND still want to try something like AP as well theeeeeeen just adjust the ckd diet.

Use at least 15-30g's of carbs with each dose to really get its effects going and just dont count those carbs as part of your diet, continue to reduce everywhere else your supposed to and pretend lik those carbs are just part of your AP not part of your caloric diet. I feel this way youll get the best of both worlds. Then on your refeed days bust out and get the full 60g's of carbs with your dosing meals if not a lil more and the AP will be doing double time for helping your body store that needed glycogen refeed where its supposed to go, the muscles.

JMO, been thinking this for a bit everytime I see a guy ask about using AP along with the CKD diet.... think you should take the diet as just an outline then always take your supps in to account and what they can do for you and mold your base diet around what they can do.
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I think AP makes CKD obsolete!

The Poop man nailed it at 15-30grams AP is one of the most amazing fat loss products on the market, but listen to the body, you will need a few AP meals during the week to be around 60grams just to refuel the muscle cell and it will not affect fat loss at all.
 
USPLabs said:
I think AP makes CKD obsolete!

The Poop man nailed it at 15-30grams AP is one of the most amazing fat loss products on the market, but listen to the body, you will need a few AP meals during the week to be around 60grams just to refuel the muscle cell and it will not affect fat loss at all.
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P-Slin didnt do much for me! I might try AP tho, tho I got YG powder here.
 
OCCFan023 said:
Thats an interesting thought. If I were to use AP on any type of keto diet I would personally just instigate in with a TKD and keep AP doses with the workout carbs (I had actually been doing that when I dropped cals and carbs down right before starting the full blown CKD.) However even while using AP I would imagine it would defeat the purpose of a legit CKD because there would still be glycogen being stored in the muscle and from what I've read its all about depleting muscle glycogen to around 70mmol/kg through the depletion workouts then down to full depletion before the carb up.

This is going to be my first weekend carb up (since its my first week on the diet) and I'm planning on taking P-Slin with my first carb up meal directly post final depletion workout (150 grams of carbs) then AP with either 3 or 4 of the other 5 carb meals (each meal is around 100 grams since I need to get in 780 grams of carbs.) With p-slin and AP I am positive that it will eliminate any chances (even if there small on carb ups) for any carbs to be stored as fat and or used as energy (goal is to keep up ketosis while on the carb up) and with these supps that is a definite possibility.

This is all speculation on my part and just how I feel, but I will be sure to judge the results and see how my body responds. So basically P-slin and AP to ensure maximal glycogen storage and then ReCreate during the week and during carb up to ensure maximal fat loss.
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The main reason why I suggest some carbs during the week is its really a small amount for AP and for AP to really do work its best if taken constantly.... and you dont want to get all out hypo taking it with nothing at all.

I think the glycogen stored though wont be that big a deal since it should all go to where its wanted and will still easily be expended during workouts since its going to be in the muscle the whole time not like its going to leave and go into fat through the day before the workout.
 
USPLabs said:
I think AP makes CKD obsolete!

The Poop man nailed it at 15-30grams AP is one of the most amazing fat loss products on the market, but listen to the body, you will need a few AP meals during the week to be around 60grams just to refuel the muscle cell and it will not affect fat loss at all.
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I agree... like I said here and somewhere else... in my log? :think: anyways I abuse carbs pretty bad (given altogether im at a deficit) and still lose weight with AP. Also havnt lost strength which Im sure is a result of great glycogen storage. With something that can allow me to do this why deprive myself of my wonderful carbs?



Jacob while were on the subject whats your opinion of continuing AP dosing while on a serious anabolic? I feel like typically it would be something I would just want to save for my PCT and off time like creatine but can it still really offer enough, in your opinion, to make a considerable difference while already on?
 
poopypants said:
The main reason why I suggest some carbs during the week is its really a small amount for AP and for AP to really do work its best if taken constantly.... and you dont want to get all out hypo taking it with nothing at all.

I think the glycogen stored though wont be that big a deal since it should all go to where its wanted and will still easily be expended during workouts since its going to be in the muscle the whole time not like its going to leave and go into fat through the day before the workout.
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Hmm I didn't consider that, is AP significantly hindered if its used once a week (aka carb up) or is it still relatively effective? I never thought it was in a way a cumulative type supp since I always figured it just activated glut-4 from the initial dose the same as it would a month in.

Towards the end of this if I actually reach my goal on the CKD before switching things up I will switch things up and take in some small amounts of carbs and see if I remain in ketosis during the week via Ketostix.
 
OCCFan023 said:
Hmm I didn't consider that, is AP significantly hindered if its used once a week (aka carb up) or is it still relatively effective? I never thought it was in a way a cumulative type supp since I always figured it just activated glut-4 from the initial dose the same as it would a month in.

Towards the end of this if I actually reach my goal on the CKD before switching things up I will switch things up and take in some small amounts of carbs and see if I remain in ketosis during the week via Ketostix.
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I believe AP can work well on one dose buuuut its def better when used consistantly... p-slin as well.
 
AP and PSlin aid a CKD. It doens't make it obsolete Jacob my dear. ;) I use it strictly for my refeeds and in my estimation it works damn well for that purpose.
 
USPLabs; said:
IC will be the cheapest price ever..
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We're keeping toes and fingers crossed. In anticipation.
 
I have some DRIVE coming in the mail, can anyone comment on my proposed cutting stack?

Drive
RPM (due to run out - replace with ReCreate)
PSlin
AP

Multi and fishoil are staples

Im cycling out creatine and PFull for a month

Cheers.
 
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