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hcg problem

lattimer99

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Anyone else notice that they need to take hcg every day to feel normal? I am on 300mg of test a week broken up into 3 shots mwf. Now at that dosage one would think he wouldnt need the extra test from hcg, but after about 2 weeks at that dosage i feel ****ty again. So i have to use HCG to kick up my natty test some. I use 250ius a day and it makes me have some sex drive and i generaly feel better again.. But without the HCG i feel tired and foggy headed and no sex drive. ANy ideas?
 
Have you had your estradial checked lately? Do you use Arimidex/Liquidex or any other AI? That much test will skyrocket your e2 levels without proper AI use.

A post of all of your most recent labwork would be very useful.
 
lattimer99 said:
Anyone else notice that they need to take hcg every day to feel normal? I am on 300mg of test a week broken up into 3 shots mwf. Now at that dosage one would think he wouldnt need the extra test from hcg, but after about 2 weeks at that dosage i feel ****ty again. So i have to use HCG to kick up my natty test some. I use 250ius a day and it makes me have some sex drive and i generaly feel better again.. But without the HCG i feel tired and foggy headed and no sex drive. ANy ideas?
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You have already got good suggestion, check e2.
Best tests at Quest:

Dr John like this:
Estradiol, Ultrasensitive, LC/MS/MS (30289X)

I add also this:
Estradiol, Free, LC/MS/MS (36169X)
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Why are you using so much testosterone?
You want to have BAT~575
on this test at Quest:
Testosterone, Free, Bio/Total (LC/MS/MS)

If you indeed need that much Testosterone to achieve those elevels look into Cobalt defficiencies/supplementation.

Also check your T level in urine,
do this at Genova

EstroEssence Complete (24hr)

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thats not TRT that is steroid dosage so you are probably having low thyroid and excessive stress to your adrenals. REduce t dosage by 1/2 to 3/4 and it should resolve your issue
 
well yes i am a former steroid user. I have been on and off cycles for a long period of time. So you are suggesting lower the test to roughly 150 mg a week and the adrenals should pop back up some? but wouldnt they be shut off regardless of the test dosage since it is an outside source of test? also why does the higher does temporarily always give me a boost in energy and libido?
 
lattimer99 said:
also i must mention the doctor has me on 150 mcg of levoxyl for thyroid
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when given T you get a quick dopamine response that last temporary then eventually fades. So why moron bodybuilders take more because it increases the dopamine receptors and makes them feel good. Trust me been there and even at NPC national level competitor
 
so its a dopamine issue as well ? soo possibly increasing tyrosine and or a low dosage of wellibutrin and lowering the test will help with adrenal fatigue and increasing dopamine some?
 
lattimer99 said:
so its a dopamine issue as well ? soo possibly increasing tyrosine and or a low dosage of wellibutrin and lowering the test will help with adrenal fatigue and increasing dopamine some?
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Neurotransmitters balancing play a major role in regaining ones health. hormones are highly integreted with neurotramistters plus also binding to the recepotors through out the body. Your cell membrane permeability to due imbalancing of dietary fats plays a huge role in mental as well as steroid receptor ability
 
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