my 2 cents..... injectables and orals are somewhat comparable, if u train right and eat right but have any of u done a 12 week cycle of sust deca a dbol?...................... the amount of shots does get annoying and u get so huge and ur balls get so small and pct doesn't save as much mass as ud want. now with the orals u can pulse and keep ur gains and most of ur ballness. just have the supporting supps handy and keep ur diet clean and don't drink liquer, I'm 32 and have been pretty dedicated since my mid 20's, the only prob I have is I really don't eat enough.